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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2016, 07:04:19 PM »
I would respectfully disagree that alcohol is the problem here.  Im 38 and it wasnt so long ago that I was frequenting clubs and pubs and staying out until 5-6am in the morning getting completely hammered.  At no time in any alcohol fueled state did I think it necessary to behave like this, and neither did any of my mates.  Close friends of mine know that I have one of the worst cases of shall we say "anger management" issues.  Only time Ive ever hit someone was if they were dumb enough to hit me first, and I would always walk away from a fight as a first option.  The difference is that I was raised to respect life (both humans and animals), and knowing how very easy it is to end someone, I always had a secondary brake there so to speak. Many kids these days grow up with no respect for themselves, let along respect for the life of others, and the fault for that lies squarely with their parents.

As an alternative way to see this - I have responded following - the specific bits of your post that I have highlighted in bold - fyi...

I would respectfully disagree that alcohol is the problem here.
Actually it is - if the scum that killed that lad was not booze-fueled; the young man would still be alive...    The murder did not occur at 10 in the morning; when the guy was stone cold sober at home in his pjs collecting the milk off the front porch...   

The problem is that in these types of individuals - the alcohol switches off their hippocampus - then its a case of "cue the Neanderthals"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocampus

Only time Ive ever hit someone was if they were dumb enough to hit me first
Not sure if your comment is just meant to be bravado - but (retaliatory) physical assault should be one's very last (defensive) option - not ones first imho...   


raised to respect life
'Sadly' - this "costs too much" - (said sort of tongue in cheek...)   EG:  VERY briefly unpacked - this would require a social media and mass media and Hollywood transplant; tougher everything: (laws, jails, sentencing, schooling; etc, etc...; and on and on...   Its only the fortunate minority that had parents or primary care givers whom cared and loved the little boys and girls enough to instill discipline and value systems into them...   

I always had a secondary brake there so to speak.
See my comment above... 


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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2016, 07:19:24 PM »
Of course alcohol is a problem,did you ever see a case like this where the idiot who threw the punch was not affected by drugs or booze ?
Let's stop making excuses for these half wits,they obviously are half bred housoe scum who have no respect for anyone. The only thing they would notice is if they got the same treatment.
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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2016, 07:20:16 PM »
Its generation now mentality.
They are the most needy ungreatful useless bastards sober, whos realy suprised they have issues dealing with each other pissed.
I dont realy like them sober

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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2016, 10:44:16 PM »
EDIT re: my post above:-

I am not really sure which part of the brain gets dulled with drugs. ....    Whether it's the hippocampus or the frontal lobes etc....   but the point I was trying to make is that alcohol takes off the "social brakes" (mentally) ... and inhibitors from some individuals. ...

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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2016, 09:13:31 AM »
EDIT re: my post above:-

I am not really sure which part of the brain gets dulled with drugs. ....    Whether it's the hippocampus or the frontal lobes etc....   but the point I was trying to make is that alcohol takes off the "social brakes" (mentally) ... and inhibitors from some individuals. ...

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Which really does mean we don't have a alcohol issue, we have a violence issue.  If you are going to do it drunk you will do it sober.  Alcohol does not change your behaviour, just your morals. 
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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2016, 11:25:52 AM »
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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2016, 03:27:44 PM »
http://media.smh.com.au/video-news/video-national-news/cctv-shows-new-years-eve-kinghit-attack-7127250.html


UPDATE - MAN ASSISTING POLICE WITH 'COWARD PUNCH' ENQUIRY

A Braddon man aged in his 20s is now assisting police with their enquiries into a ‘coward punch’ assault that occurred in Civic in the early hours of New Year’s Day (Friday 1 January).

This afternoon the man handed himself in at City Police Station and is now assisting police with their investigations.
 Police would like to thank the community and media for their assistance in swiftly providing information regarding the identity of the two men involved in the disturbance with the victim, pictured in CCTV.
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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2016, 04:07:49 PM »
fixed it for you mate...sadly it's not just the law they don't respect

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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #59 on: January 08, 2016, 07:48:43 PM »
It a gutless prick who hits another from either behind or from the side in a one punch attack


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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2016, 12:25:04 AM »
Its generation now mentality.
They are the most needy ungreatful useless bastards sober, whos realy suprised they have issues dealing with each other pissed.
I dont realy like them sober

Gotta agree with that. The do-gooders did away with smacking, the cane in schools, brought in 'rights of the child', you get a medal for just participating in sport, the 'it's always someone's fault but mine' mentality.  Now there's a generation of self-centred pricks with no respect for fellow man nor authority, there's no honour, no morals, no concept of right or wrong.

They are not all like that though. I do see a glimmer of hope every now & then ;D

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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2016, 10:06:07 AM »
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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2016, 11:38:03 PM »
See on the news tonite, a female duty manager at a Mount Isa club got king hit from behind yesterday ... Airlifted to Townsville for emergency surgery .. Hope the dick they arrested, fell down a few flights of stairs at the station ..
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/01/09/14/31/victim-of-mount-isa-pub-attempted-coward-punch-attack-fights-for-life
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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #64 on: January 10, 2016, 05:22:02 AM »
When are people going to realise that punching someone in the back of the head is what a gutless and scared cretin does. The whole community look at you like scum.
Alcohol and drugs are no excuse.
This poor fella Trevor Duroux lost his life after ten days in a coma after being hit by a coward from behind.
Not a lot of media surrounded this tragic case.
My heart goes out to this mans family, and all victims families.
Change is imminent.
People will start taking a stand and stamping out these cretins.
The law needs to stand up also.
Think before you ruin a lot of lives before being a selfish and putrid thing!!
#stopthecowardspunch
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just saw this post by danny green on facebook.
Its more the kind of response we need from prominant people.
Insult and demean the bastards

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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #65 on: January 10, 2016, 06:19:56 AM »
See on the news tonite, a female duty manager at a Mount Isa club got king hit from behind yesterday ... Airlifted to Townsville for emergency surgery .. Hope the dick they arrested, fell down a few flights of stairs at the station ..
i just watched the video on Facebook.
I then read the comments.
There were people actually defending the drop kick piece of garbage that hit her.
One scum sucking moron actually said "The manager should have expected it to happen and she should have taken steps to defend herself".
How insane is that???
People defending this kind of crap literally scare the heck out of me.
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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #66 on: January 10, 2016, 06:28:32 AM »
That realy is Shithouse.
But thats the mentality of the people we are dealing with,like i said generation now.
Its always someone elses fault and they never to blame

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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #67 on: January 10, 2016, 07:49:06 AM »
See on the news tonite, a female duty manager at a Mount Isa club got king hit from behind yesterday ... Airlifted to Townsville for emergency surgery .. Hope the dick they arrested, fell down a few flights of stairs at the station ..
Fixed for ya...

"Gets thrown down a flight of stairs INSIDE A FILING CABINET" ...

Now that's more like it. ..Valley CBD style    LOL....

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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #68 on: January 10, 2016, 08:45:52 AM »
Mandatory life sentence regardless of the injuries caused to the victim, when in court the only question should be was this a so called coward punch - if so life sentence, no excuses, no bleeding heart crap about hard upbringing, drugs or alcohol consumed, just put them away for life and life should be life until they are dead, not 15 years.

Once a few are locked up maybe just maybe this will trigger some sense of fear of consequence and make them hesitate long enough to rethink their action.  Have to also agree the parents of these scum have a lot to answer for, maybe they should also get locked up, might make them take a bit of care to raise there kids as humans.

Like the one last night, punching a women in the head why would we ever want this turd on the streets, enough evidence just on camera to lock him up, but he will get 6 months max if that. There is a lot to fix, I worry for the next generation.

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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #69 on: January 10, 2016, 06:14:10 PM »
I agree with everything posted in this thread except the "blame the parent for the way they were raised comments"
I'am 1 of 11 children from my parents.( They are part rabbit I reckon)
Same parents and all 11 of us raised the exact same way.
10 of us children have never been in trouble with the law whatsover. 10 of us never have, nor ever would, think of doing anything this rotten.
Then there is the 11th one of us.
He has spent more of his life in prison than out.
Has done some really rotten stuff to people. Believes everything is all about him and the world and everyone in it owes him. If he wants something he simply takes it, if you dont like it he will pick up the nearest object and start hitting you with it.
So please dont say "Its the way he/she was raised" because I know first hand that it isnt always the case.
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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #70 on: January 10, 2016, 07:49:49 PM »
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It a gutless prick who hits another from either behind or from the side in a one punch attack
agree - and so many of them seem to be that way...
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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #71 on: January 10, 2016, 08:53:42 PM »
Theres an exception to every rule bill... some times theres just rotten eggs in the mix.
But generaly speaking nurture far outways nature when it comes to upbringing its critical.
Narcissistic people are just that.
They arnt all violent or criminals but they ALL have no empathy or sense of values or fairness
Sorry to hear about your bro bill but a bad upbringing is a disaster waiting to happen, your brothers just a personality type that unfortionatly is becoming more common

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Re: What an absolute tragedy - Coward punches, what happened to our society?
« Reply #72 on: January 11, 2016, 09:55:44 AM »
UPDATE - MAN ASSISTING POLICE WITH 'COWARD PUNCH' ENQUIRY

A Braddon man aged in his 20s is now assisting police with their enquiries into a ‘coward punch’ assault that occurred in Civic in the early hours of New Year’s Day (Friday 1 January).

This afternoon the man handed himself in at City Police Station and is now assisting police with their investigations.
 Police would like to thank the community and media for their assistance in swiftly providing information regarding the identity of the two men involved in the disturbance with the victim, pictured in CCTV.


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Ladies and gentlemen, this is Jordan Sharma of Braddon, ACT.

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