NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016

[Hairs]

How could I be so wrong ??

Apparently I'm wrong as well, cause I have a difference of opinion.
I was of the thinking that being a human being the first rule of thumb was self preservation.
But according to those that support the idea of I have a right, screw you Jack, that is thrown out the window.

Hmm
Arrogance;   offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride.

And with that your Honor,
I have nothing else to add.

[gronk]

Apparently I'm wrong as well, cause I have a difference of opinion.
And with that your Honor,
I have nothing else to add.

Same as greenies and new age carbon bashers....you are scum if you don't agree with their view of the world.

I'm outa here !!

[Jeepers Creepers]

Don't go guys, we've only gone for 12 pages.

[Hairs]

Don't go guys, we've only gone for 12 pages.

See ya at the National Meet, 2017 

[Bad Scott]

Don't go guys, we've only gone for 12 pages.

Enjoyed the fishing show. Got more bites than Rex Hunt

[scrapsD40]

Enjoyed the fishing show. Got more bites than Rex Hunt

Is He still alive? These days probably more Paul Worsteling or Robson Green

[ATC]

Just saw this from South Australia

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/feb/09/south-australian-police-denounce-cyclists-for-disregarding-the-law

Booked cyclists and motorists who weren't following the new road rules.

Not wearing a helmet
No lights at night
Parking / driving in a bike lane

All got winning tickets from the


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[plusnq]

Is He still alive? These days probably more Paul Worsteling or Robson Green

Yep. He is still kicking around.

[GBC]

Just saw this from South Australia

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/feb/09/south-australian-police-denounce-cyclists-for-disregarding-the-law

Booked cyclists and motorists who weren't following the new road rules.

Not wearing a helmet
No lights at night
Parking / driving in a bike lane



All got winning tickets from the


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Good.  Same thing happened here in QLD when the spotlight went on cycle rules. cyclists can't expect legitimacy without spending time under the microscope. Mt coo tha often has speed camera and bell blitzes these days, and the whole Zupps ride group got fined last year for pulling an Idaho stop at a stop sign (rolling stop, calling 'clear' to those behind). As a cyclist I understand that we have hearing and communication well in excess of what a car driver does so we can pull such stunts in relative safety. It doesn't make them legal though. Crazy commuters are well documented and they also need to settle down a bit too, as do some of the one eyed cage pilots around here.

[Jeepers Creepers]

For all the non-riders, you know, just for a laugh. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7QW0X0Z5UA

[fergy]

this has quieted down a bit so I think its time I posted
I don't drive far but the one think that gets me is the cyclists that ride on the narrow windy roads when there is an alternative road that there could be on
when your on a road like that and come up behind a cyclist that is going rather slow (uphill) and then have a car coming the otherway there is not much room to give them
and there is noway these fellas are commuting to work as it is a back road
im not sure if they don't value there life or are just ignorant (not havin a go at all cyclists so don't get ya lycra in a twist)
them being in the right in regards to the law just aint gunna help them and I pity the poor soul that runs one over
some roads just aint made to be safe for cyclists I just wish they could see that themselves
oh and the twats that ride two abreast or in large groups. that is just plain rude

[Jeepers Creepers]

Doh, forgot to slow down for the corner..... dumb ar$e

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVr2vPhpvEM

[TheWall]

Just saw this from South Australia

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/feb/09/south-australian-police-denounce-cyclists-for-disregarding-the-law

Booked cyclists and motorists who weren't following the new road rules.

Not wearing a helmet
No lights at night
Parking / driving in a bike lane

All got winning tickets from the


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Yep...cyclists are your biggest threat on the roads...? check out this from the 2014-15 SAPOL Annual Report...

During 2014-15, SAPOL’s Operation Safe Roads conducted 43 traffic policing operations across the state, 17 metropolitan, eight rural and 18 combined metropolitan/rural. Safe Roads focussed on speeding, mobile phone use (distraction), seatbelt non-compliance, drink and drug driving, fatigue and recidivist dangerous road users. Other operations were added to the initial Safe Roads annexures throughout the year in response to prevalent trends in road safety issues. Overall results from Operation Safe Roads were 115 794 expiation notices issued and 19 578 apprehension reports, including 4967 seatbelt, 11 419 mobile phone and 31 912 speeding offences detected.

Wowsers!


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[TheWall]

Some good points Fergy...there are some roads I won't ride due to conditions and some that are awesome but have a couple of pinch points which are dangerous due to ped zones and other barriers which artificially narrow lanes and bad points...an example is David Low Way on the Sunny Coast...mostly a great road but there is a section just Sth of Coolum shops which has NO shoulder.

My questions would be...if you drive these roads and you know they are used by mums, dads, sons and daughters who happen to ride bikes is it really too much to ask a vehicle to use the middle/left pedal occasionally and slow and wait till a safe place to pass - I think that is commonly referred to as 'sharing' the road' or put another way are  you driving to fast for the unexpected? Is your speed/time more important than a life?

PS: I often find it easier to overtake groups riding two abreast as the line of bikes is half as long...


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[TheWall]

And lastly Jeepers... Excellent you can laugh at the misfortune and serious injuries of others...nice.

Should we all hope that when you have a car accident that there is footage so share the laughs when you are in hospital?

I much prefer this type of entertainment...

1. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GymlhreKW0Q

2. Or an old personal favourite https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6fKof31u-2o


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[ATC]

Yep...cyclists are your biggest threat on the roads...? check out this from the 2014-15 SAPOL Annual Report...

During 2014-15, SAPOL’s Operation Safe Roads conducted 43 traffic policing operations across the state, 17 metropolitan, eight rural and 18 combined metropolitan/rural. Safe Roads focussed on speeding, mobile phone use (distraction), seatbelt non-compliance, drink and drug driving, fatigue and recidivist dangerous road users. Other operations were added to the initial Safe Roads annexures throughout the year in response to prevalent trends in road safety issues. Overall results from Operation Safe Roads were 115 794 expiation notices issued and 19 578 apprehension reports, including 4967 seatbelt, 11 419 mobile phone and 31 912 speeding offences detected.

Wowsers!


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I also want the idiots speeding, driving with phones, texting, drug effected, drunk, etc also sorted out...

ATC

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[NewieCamper]

For all the non-riders, you know, just for a laugh. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7QW0X0Z5UA

In the interests of balance:

http://youtu.be/_XjXXt1qARk
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[rags]

On the weekend we were down driving along the rd between Gerrigong and Geroa on a road that sweeps up n down hills around bends with great coast line views. The government thought it would be good to build a great cycle lane 2.4 my wide concrete seperate from the road, not in a spot where mums with prams or Grans with white fluffy dogs would walk and we're does the bike rider ride you ask , Yes on the road next to the unbroken divide line. Happen to be travelling with an off duty highway patrol officer and his comment was that they should be able to book the rider if there is a cycle way and they don't use it.I agree
Back home in Brisbane on the Bus taking approx 60 passengers heading to the city today and a bike rider holds the bus up causing frustration to the driver, after finally passing the bike only to have the bike get back in front at next lights or bus stop and the process happens all over again up the next hill the bus now attempts to pass again.
For me bikes have there place and that is on the cycle way if available and not holding up commuters doing the right thing catching the bus. And yes I do ride a bike as recreation and yes I have also been hit by a car whilst riding a bike when I was 19 years old with a hole in my head as evidence.

[fergy]

Some good points Fergy...there are some roads I won't ride due to conditions and some that are awesome but have a couple of pinch points which are dangerous due to ped zones and other barriers which artificially narrow lanes and bad points...an example is David Low Way on the Sunny Coast...mostly a great road but there is a section just Sth of Coolum shops which has NO shoulder.

My questions would be...if you drive these roads and you know they are used by mums, dads, sons and daughters who happen to ride bikes is it really too much to ask a vehicle to use the middle/left pedal occasionally and slow and wait till a safe place to pass - I think that is commonly referred to as 'sharing' the road' or put another way are  you driving to fast for the unexpected? Is your speed/time more important than a life?

different part of town than your thinking mate, no one in there right mind would allow there kids to ride them roads. I'm talking the likes of caves rd Margaret river and other windy roads . If there life was important to them they would not be there just like you avoid certain areas, I have no problem slowing for them but these roads are winding and tight there is no shoulder to speak of . My time is not the point the danger of what they are doing is the problem, and yes there are alternative routes

PS: I often find it easier to overtake groups riding two abreast as the line of bikes is half as long...

Point taken but if I had a convoy of caravans doing 30kmph with only a 1second gap between each other and a line of cars/trucks and busses behind me stretching kms  I would be an assh##e
Do it on a bike and there is no problem?

Sure I get that the majority do the right thing it's just a pity they don't ride around here






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[doc evil]

Yep......ALL cyclists are law abiding citizens.

Just check out the "Show us your  push bike" thread.........almost all don't have a bell.........even some of the kids bikes............

Yep, you lot definitely a law unto yourselves.

Like I said previously, it's even against the law to take your bum off the seat........but hey, laws are there to be broken right.......

[xcvator]

Geeze I luv a good ride too, pity the viagra has run out  oops sorry wrong thread

[plusnq]

Says it all really

[WCN_Bren]

Yep......ALL cyclists are law abiding citizens.

Just check out the "Show us your  push bike" thread.........almost all don't have a bell.........even some of the kids bikes............

Yep, you lot definitely a law unto yourselves.

Like I said previously, it's even against the law to take your bum off the seat........but hey, laws are there to be broken right.......

that's a gee up... surely. nah, you can't be serious about this stuff?
1) that's totally not true about taking your bum off your seat. sorry, calling BS on that.
2) a bell does bugger all on the road. If i was riding a shared bike path (bikes and pedestrians) on a regular basis then I would have a bell. I noticed in Melbourne people used them quite effectively on the running / cycling paths. But the law is actually "horn, bell or other warning device" Guess what? My voice is actually a warning device! True. I'm actually 80% deaf (the effects of a brain tumor) and Bells just annoy me as there is no sure way to tell where the noise is coming from unless you take your eyes of the path or road and look behind you (if you are riding). What is MUCH more practical is "PASSING ON YOUR RIGHT" or even just "ON YOUR RIGHT". So simple hey. A warning device that is communicative at the same time. 

Shake it up dude. Don't be one of those "haters gonna hate hate hate". Just maybe there is some logic and reasoning behind some of the MAMILs behaviour. Maybe?

[NewieCamper]

that's a gee up... surely. nah, you can't be serious about this stuff?
1) that's totally not true about taking your bum off your seat. sorry, calling BS on that.

Not so long ago in WA at least it was the law. Traffic code, regulation 211 used to state you must be seated, it has had a few amendments and now states "if seated..."  The amendment may have been as recent as 2013, as I found a blog quoting it from 2011 which was that you must be seated. It also says you must have one hand on the bars.

[Rumpig]

Think ya have a big one on the hook Jeepers