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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #250 on: February 07, 2016, 07:09:32 PM »
Ha ha this is better than some of the old Electrical posts


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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #251 on: February 07, 2016, 07:13:46 PM »
I reckon if you had a unknown country of origin, solar powered bike made from 6b&s with a drone camera hovering overhead to record all the attempts on your life.......you'd have the ultimate thread  ;D ;D
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #252 on: February 07, 2016, 07:46:55 PM »
Ha ha this is better than some of the old Electrical posts


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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #253 on: February 07, 2016, 07:47:59 PM »
I reckon if you had a solar powered bike made from 6b&s with a drone camera hovering overhead to record all the attempts on your life.......you'd have the ultimate thread  ;D ;D

Yep, that's about got it all!!!!
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #254 on: February 07, 2016, 08:16:02 PM »
I reckon if you had a solar powered bike made from 6b&s with a drone camera hovering overhead to record all the attempts on your life.......you'd have the ultimate thread  ;D ;D

Not unless you own an ultimate, then you own an ultimate and posting in an ultimate thread, that makes you the ultimate...  Now where is the old bike and panel and 6b&s I have laying around
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #255 on: February 07, 2016, 08:20:39 PM »

I reckon if you had a solar powered bike made from 6b&s with a drone camera hovering overhead to record all the attempts on your life.......you'd have the ultimate thread  ;D ;D

Hmmm you forgot which country it was made and or assembled.

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #256 on: February 07, 2016, 08:21:22 PM »
Not unless you own an ultimate, then you own an ultimate and posting in an ultimate thread, that makes you the ultimate...  Now where is the old bike and panel and 6b&s I have laying around
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #257 on: February 07, 2016, 08:25:02 PM »
Hmmm you forgot which country it was made and or assembled.


Fixed just for you

I reckon if you had a unknown country of origin, solar powered bike made from 6b&s with a drone camera hovering overhead to record all the attempts on your life.......you'd have the ultimate thread  ;D ;D

Not unless you own an ultimate, then you own an ultimate and posting in an ultimate thread, that makes you the ultimate...  Now where is the old bike and panel and 6b&s I have laying around

Obviously..........  Bring on March 22  ;D

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #258 on: February 07, 2016, 08:33:40 PM »
Ultimate BS by the sound of it  8)

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #259 on: February 07, 2016, 08:35:23 PM »
Am I known for anything else???
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #261 on: February 08, 2016, 01:00:24 AM »
Google it.........but I know of 2 in perth recently, 1 being a young engineer from work......and a year or so ago in sydney......
and what happened to all the law abiding cyclists out there that ring their bell when approaching pedestrians.......zip zilch nada........oh, that's right, don't have a bell......as it'll spoil my Frappuccino look at the cafe.......

now, I  can drag the racecar outta the garage and "train" on the road by your logic...... ::) ::)

Pedestrians are much more likely to get injured or killed by a 4wd than a cyclist. I will try and dig out the NRMA study tomorrow.

I ride. Bells do bugger all unless your on a quiet shared path. Even then a lot of people have headphones on.

Studies have been done on Hi-Viz clothes too...makes zero difference during the day. ZERO. NONE. It makes little difference at night too but flashing lights during the day have a little affect while at night have a large impact.

Cycling road races are done on the road and it's legal to ride on the road. Car races tend to be done on a track and it's illegal to race on the road.

I used to be very anti-cycling and anti-lycra...until I got injured and needed to ride to do rehab and keep fit. Firstly, after a few weeks of riding you will soon learn why everyone ends up wearing all the gear...it's comfortable and you will do / wear anything to stop the pain.

I did an experiment over a few days just a couple of weeks ago. I wrote down how many times i had to slow down for a car, a truck, a bicycle and tried to note whether is was a male / female, old/young as well. (I drive a small truck for a living). Anyway, I'm sure you can guess the biggest frustration to my day was not cyclists.

the thing that really disappoints me with these threads is:
a) the hate! how someone can HATE another group of people so vehemently.
b) the "my logic is better than your logic" battle.
c) the absence and often ignorance of facts. so many stories of "this one guy a new..."

Truth is, cycling is increasing. SA has goal to double the amount of people riding to work / school by 2020. There are similar goals for almost every state. A NSW study showed that every time someone road their bike to work (in Sydney) it saved the community as much as $20. The time impact on a trip home because some people ride to work is actually a win in your favor - even if you miss the lights because you had to wait for a cyclist. Those cyclists being in their cars or even on buses would contribute to much more traffic congestion than those precious seconds (or even minutes) waiting for a cyclist.

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #262 on: February 08, 2016, 05:24:48 AM »

Pedestrians are much more likely to get injured or killed by a 4wd than a cyclist. I will try and dig out the NRMA study tomorrow.

I ride. Bells do bugger all unless your on a quiet shared path. Even then a lot of people have headphones on.

Studies have been done on Hi-Viz clothes too...makes zero difference during the day. ZERO. NONE. It makes little difference at night too but flashing lights during the day have a little affect while at night have a large impact.

Cycling road races are done on the road and it's legal to ride on the road. Car races tend to be done on a track and it's illegal to race on the road.

I used to be very anti-cycling and anti-lycra...until I got injured and needed to ride to do rehab and keep fit. Firstly, after a few weeks of riding you will soon learn why everyone ends up wearing all the gear...it's comfortable and you will do / wear anything to stop the pain.

I did an experiment over a few days just a couple of weeks ago. I wrote down how many times i had to slow down for a car, a truck, a bicycle and tried to note whether is was a male / female, old/young as well. (I drive a small truck for a living). Anyway, I'm sure you can guess the biggest frustration to my day was not cyclists.

the thing that really disappoints me with these threads is:
a) the hate! how someone can HATE another group of people so vehemently.
b) the "my logic is better than your logic" battle.
c) the absence and often ignorance of facts. so many stories of "this one guy a new..."

Truth is, cycling is increasing. SA has goal to double the amount of people riding to work / school by 2020. There are similar goals for almost every state. A NSW study showed that every time someone road their bike to work (in Sydney) it saved the community as much as $20. The time impact on a trip home because some people ride to work is actually a win in your favor - even if you miss the lights because you had to wait for a cyclist. Those cyclists being in their cars or even on buses would contribute to much more traffic congestion than those precious seconds (or even minutes) waiting for a cyclist.

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #263 on: February 08, 2016, 05:53:36 AM »
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Studies have been done on Hi-Viz clothes too...makes zero difference during the day. ZERO. NONE.
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Surely you have your facts mixed up.........wearing black clothes makes you just as visible to a car driver as hi vis ??  Sorry, can't agree with that. .
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #264 on: February 08, 2016, 11:06:47 AM »
So Gronk...out of all of the balanced and reasoned points presented you cannot bring yourself to agree with anything and you pick out that?

The hate... go pick on someone your own size ?????

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #265 on: February 08, 2016, 11:16:13 AM »
So Gronk...out of all of the balanced and reasoned points presented you cannot bring yourself to agree with anything and you pick out that?

The hate... go pick on someone your own size ?????

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #266 on: February 08, 2016, 12:21:58 PM »
Ps Gronk. You asked for a photo riding gear with the lights and colour and I really would not want to let you down...went for a ride last night...this is before the FLY12 front camera and light arrives in a few weeks.

Note the light on the seat stay of the bike is also a FLY6 camera which has resulted a few police reports...

Great one last night. A car was thinking of squeezing me through a roundabout  but they quickly and suddenly backed off to my surprise...it was a Pootrol that i had reported to Police  a few weeks earlier. ..sweeet. ????

The second photo is one I want to add to try and help reduce the hate...When I re took up cycling for the same type of reasons that were stated by WCN the joy was immediate...I gotta admit that I also started out anti Mamil but 1st the Mtn bike was too slow so it got slicks but that was still too slow...then it got upgraded to a roadie and in turn that one got upgraded to a better one...and then the gear just makes sense...oh, upgrade itis is just as fun for the pushie than the car or camper...

And as per the photo. My kids love bike riding.... my 4yo boy can easily do a 15k round trip (helps when there is a half way milkshake he he). Don't you all remember how much fun bike riding was/is?

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #267 on: February 08, 2016, 12:47:24 PM »
Would you like me to quote case numbers..

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #268 on: February 08, 2016, 12:54:25 PM »
Ps Gronk. You asked for a photo riding gear with the lights and colour and I really would not want to let you down...went for a ride last night...this is before the FLY12 front camera and light arrives in a few weeks.

Note the light on the seat stay of the bike is also a FLY6 camera which has resulted a few police reports...

Great one last night. A car was thinking of squeezing me through a roundabout  but they quickly and suddenly backed off to my surprise...it was a Pootrol that i had reported to Police  a few weeks earlier. ..sweeet. ????

The second photo is one I want to add to try and help reduce the hate...When I re took up cycling for the same type of reasons that were stated by WCN the joy was immediate...I gotta admit that I also started out anti Mamil but 1st the Mtn bike was too slow so it got slicks but that was still too slow...then it got upgraded to a roadie and in turn that one got upgraded to a better one...and then the gear just makes sense...oh, upgrade itis is just as fun for the pushie than the car or camper...

And as per the photo. My kids love bike riding.... my 4yo boy can easily do a 15k round trip (helps when there is a half way milkshake he he). Don't you all remember how much fun bike riding was/is?

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #269 on: February 08, 2016, 01:49:03 PM »
Yup,

its the same old story:
All muslims are going to blow up my family - no, there is a tiny minority of whack jobs that unfortunately identify themselves as muslims.
All dole recipients are useless drugged out slobs - no, there is a group of them that think everyone else owes them everything they can get.
All people from Texas are rednecks... no
All Asian people are... no.
All cyclists are lycra wearing ... no.
All 4wd drive owners are... no.
All .... etc...

Nope, there are just a bunch of people in this world that are scum or are out to cause trouble. The vast majority are pretty decent and want to get on with whatever they want to get on with, be it riding a bike, towing a camper to a remote spot, praying to their favourite deity on a regular basis, or getting annoyed and trolling the internets.
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #270 on: February 08, 2016, 03:21:06 PM »
Yup,

its the same old story:
All muslims are going to blow up my family - no, there is a tiny minority of whack jobs that unfortunately identify themselves as muslims.
All dole recipients are useless drugged out slobs - no, there is a group of them that think everyone else owes them everything they can get.
All people from Texas are rednecks... no
All Asian people are... no.
All cyclists are lycra wearing ... no.
All 4wd drive owners are... no.
All .... etc...

Nope, there are just a bunch of people in this world that are scum or are out to cause trouble. The vast majority are pretty decent and want to get on with whatever they want to get on with, be it riding a bike, towing a camper to a remote spot, praying to their favourite deity on a regular basis, or getting annoyed and trolling the internets.

Yep, fully agree.

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #271 on: February 08, 2016, 04:16:49 PM »
Group hug now so we can move on??? :-*

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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #272 on: February 08, 2016, 04:18:12 PM »
Will you wear your lycra?

Am I on a promise???  :-* ;) ;)
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NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
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Re: NSW - Drivers and Cyclists - New laws March 2016
« Reply #274 on: February 08, 2016, 05:01:49 PM »
So Gronk...out of all of the balanced and reasoned points presented you cannot bring yourself to agree with anything and you pick out that?


Sorry about that......I'll agree then.......black clothes are just as easy to see ( especially at night ) as hi vis gear !!

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