Drill questions

[Nifty1]

Went to buy Ryobi but ended up with Ozito red range. Drill, impact driver and grinder, charger, two batteries and bag for $199. If they die in the next five years it's a free replacement (3 on batteries). That's about double the warranty for half the price. No one warrants stuff for that long if the products have no chance of lasting, I reckon.

[feisty]

Bought a clearance ryobi 18v as a spare spare cos swaggers thought they were ok. Price $60 2 small batteries.  Probably will be ok but not nice in the hand. Wouldn't want to be using it all the time.

[kylarama]

No one warrants stuff for that long if the products have no chance of lasting, I reckon.

True, but it only covers 'DIY' use and it's marketed towards DIYers, so I guess stuff will last longer with only occasional use.  They also probably factor in people losing their receipts after a year or so, also being so cheap some people don't bother returning stuff?

Remember GMC from about 15 years ago?  Cheap with a 2 year replacement warranty.  GMC ended up going broke because of their warranty.  Returns outweighed sales.

Apparently Ozito is now owned by Einhell and most of the new stuff is rebadged Einhell?  Might not be the Ozito of old anymore?

[feisty]

True, but it only covers 'DIY' use and it's marketed towards DIYers, so I guess stuff will last longer with only occasional use.  They also probably factor in people losing their receipts after a year or so, also being so cheap some people don't bother returning stuff?

Remember GMC from about 15 years ago?  Cheap with a 2 year replacement warranty.  GMC ended up going broke because of their warranty.  Returns outweighed sales.

Apparently Ozito is now owned by Einhell and most of the new stuff is rebadged Einhell?  Might not be the Ozito of old anymore?

Daughter's friend dad owned gmc.  Loved the fact a gmc biscuter was available for $100 as opposed the prices rupes and festo charged. Changed the market I reckon. I remember he said to me that gmc were the first in the world to put a laser on a circular saw.  Now has 707.  He loves the fact everything gets shipped to Masters direct from China.  No reps. No warehouse. No stress. Just engineers working out what else we need or think we need.

[kylarama]

Changed the market I reckon.

Companies globally like GMC certainly changed the market.  They put tools in the hands of people that would not normally buy power tools and put power tools in the hands of people who shouldn't use tools...  Price, warranty and things like lasers made them massively popular with handymen and tradies.  There were tons of tradies out there that loved the stuff.

Now every hardware chain has their own budget tool brand.
The trade off was everyone else had to drop their prices to compete.  By either cutting margins, lower quality components and moving manufacturing from places like Japan & Germany to China.

[Goose]

In the end i bought an AEG combo of brushless cordless drill, brushless cordless impact driver (200Nm), 2 * 2.5Ah batteries and a charger. I also got a 125mm 1100W angle grinder with 20 discs. It was $498 from Bunnings all up.

It was meant to go straight into santa's sack but i couldn't help myself, so its all been opened already. I'm happy with the quality and the drills feel really good in the hand. They are light and powerful. The drill has 3 modes (hammer, drill and screw) and 2 speeds. Its good for drilling the holes and then driving screws slowly which is what i needed as in the past i always strip the heads. Doing some tests with the impact driver was great as well. It can drive a 50mm screw into a batten in the blink of an eye.

Interesting to note the 6 year AEG warranty requires that you upload a copy of your receipt within 30 days to the AEG site, which i have done and has been acknowledged by AEG.

I want to thank everyone for all their tips and advice in this thread, has been quite useful to me.

[rotare]

Went to buy Ryobi but ended up with Ozito red range. Drill, impact driver and grinder, charger, two batteries and bag for $199. If they die in the next five years it's a free replacement (3 on batteries). That's about double the warranty for half the price. No one warrants stuff for that long if the products have no chance of lasting, I reckon.

Considered the same Ozito drill set when looking at purchasing a new cordless drill but noted the rated torque was considerably less than the equivalent Ryobi, so went with the Ryobi.

I've brought plenty of Ozito stuff over the years and agree the price and warranty is very competitive.  Never had any issues getting the warranty honoured but it's usually Murphy's law that the stuff stops working or breaks at the most inconvenient time - which is really frustrating in the middle of a project.

[kylarama]

In the end i bought an AEG combo of brushless cordless drill, brushless cordless impact driver (200Nm), 2 * 2.5Ah batteries and a charger. I also got a 125mm 1100W angle grinder with 20 discs. It was $498 from Bunnings all up.

It was meant to go straight into santa's sack but i couldn't help myself, so its all been opened already. I'm happy with the quality and the drills feel really good in the hand. They are light and powerful. The drill has 3 modes (hammer, drill and screw) and 2 speeds. Its good for drilling the holes and then driving screws slowly which is what i needed as in the past i always strip the heads. Doing some tests with the impact driver was great as well. It can drive a 50mm screw into a batten in the blink of an eye.

Interesting to note the 6 year AEG warranty requires that you upload a copy of your receipt within 30 days to the AEG site, which i have done and has been acknowledged by AEG.

I want to thank everyone for all their tips and advice in this thread, has been quite useful to me.

Good stuff Goose.  Now you just have to resist the temptation to expand your kit with skins...

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[kylarama]

So the trigger brake has just died in my 7-8 year old Makita (160nm) impact driver. 

$40-$50 for new trigger or $270 for 280nm brushless 1/2" impact wrench.

Decisions decisions...


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Seems Santa was listening.  Under the xmas tree, I found a nice brushless impact wrench and two 5ah batteries.

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[dales133]

You wont regrett aeg,i changed my gear over to aeg a couple of years back from hitachi and qualities equaly as good with much better price and warunty

[achjimmy]

Those looking for a quality drill kit for a bargain Masters have the Stanley Fatmax 18v drill and driver combo on special till Wednesday I think $149. Picked one up and the Chuck quality is excellent pretty impressed definetly a cut above the ryobi

[Fizzie]

The other thing I did was when I bought my Ryobi drill I had some old GMC 18v gear that had dud ni-cad batteries. I bought the cheapest Ryobi skin I could find (torch) cut the base off it, grafted it to the gmc battery shell once the batteries were removed. Now it's possible to use the old gmc drill, jigsaw, recip saw with a Ryobi lithium battery. The battery/skin system does lock you in a bit, but not completely.

Hi Newie

Just found this thread.

I've got both GMC & Ozito gear with dead ni-cad's  .

Could you please give us some further details on your surgery, as that sounds very interesting! 

Thanks

Graeme

[NewieCamper]

I bought the ryobi torch for about $19, alternatively look for cheap second hand one+ gear.
Disassemble the battery pack from the 'other' stuff, you really only need the top of it that plugs into the other tool, make sure the clip things that hold the battery from falling out of the tool are still included.
Chop the base off the ryobi skin, enough of it so you can still plug in the ryobi battery, keep some wires attached to the bit you chopped off. Shape it to fit inside the 'other' top.
Connect the wires from the ryobi skin base to the terminals inside the top of the 'other' battery.
Glue/screw/tape the 'other' top to the ryobi skin base and you've got an adaptor. I used a combo of screwing a couple of metal straps and hot melt glue to stick them together.
Looks ugly as ... And changes the weighting of the tool, but works.

[hempo]

Those looking for a quality drill kit for a bargain Masters have the Stanley Fatmax 18v drill and driver combo on special till Wednesday I think $149. Picked one up and the Chuck quality is excellent pretty impressed definetly a cut above the ryobi

Good timing.  Might pick up one of these.