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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #50 on: October 07, 2015, 02:39:35 PM »

?You may NOT fly FPV !!


This one has me stumped ??
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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #51 on: October 07, 2015, 02:55:55 PM »
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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #52 on: October 07, 2015, 02:56:35 PM »
This one has me stumped ??

I believe that you need to hold a UAV operators cert to pilot as FPV (First person View) otherwise you have to be able to see it with your own eyes at all times. I think you can fly FPV as long as you have a second operator who maintains eye contact with the UAV. FPV means where there is a camera that feeds to googles or similar that you use to fly

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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #53 on: October 07, 2015, 02:58:23 PM »
Look I understand Birds concerns... if I was him I would be worried that a photo or video would get taken of him in his own home...He gets up to some weird s$%t

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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2015, 03:26:13 PM »
If you're interested in this topic (shooting down drones) then you may enjoy these articles and the associated comments.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/kentucky-man-shoots-down-drone-hovering-over-his-backyard/
http://imgur.com/gallery/oSGNZjq

There are some interesting view points from both sides, such as:

risks of discharging firearm in residential area
wanton destruction of property
was the drone recording or not and proving this after its destroyed
can the camera in a drone really take adequate footage for spying
proving the drone actually flew over or near your house, and altering flight paths / flight plans after the fact
proving privacy invasion etc
will you get bashed by the owner (and his mates) when they come looking for their drone

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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #55 on: October 07, 2015, 03:29:21 PM »
It's a mine field that's for sure. The laws haven't kept up with the technology is the biggest problem I think.

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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2015, 04:03:37 PM »
If you're interested in this topic (shooting down drones) then you may enjoy these articles and the associated comments.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/07/kentucky-man-shoots-down-drone-hovering-over-his-backyard/
http://imgur.com/gallery/oSGNZjq

There are some interesting view points from both sides, such as:

risks of discharging firearm in residential area
wanton destruction of property
was the drone recording or not and proving this after its destroyed
can the camera in a drone really take adequate footage for spying
proving the drone actually flew over or near your house, and altering flight paths / flight plans after the fact
proving privacy invasion etc
will you get bashed by the owner (and his mates) when they come looking for their drone


You don't actually have many rights to privacy when it comes to photographs. In Australia the taking and publication of a person's photograph, without their consent or knowledge but within some limitations is not an invasion of privacy, nor is it in contravention of case or statute law.

http://www.artslaw.com.au/info-sheets/info-sheet/street-photographers-rights/

"There are no publicity or personality rights in Australia, and there is no right to privacy that protects a person’s image. Existing privacy laws are more concerned with storage and management of personal information and are of limited relevance to the present issue."

"There is no restriction on taking photographs of people on private property from public property. According to Victoria Park Racing and Recreation Grounds Co Ltd v Taylor (1937) there is no freedom from view, so people who are photographed on their property from a public location have no legal claim against you if what is captured in the photograph can be seen from the street. The same applies to photographs taken from private land when you have permission to take photographs. You should be careful that you are not being a nuisance and interfering with someone’s right to use and enjoy the land (see the case of Bathurst City Council v Saban (1985))."
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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #57 on: October 07, 2015, 04:05:36 PM »

Um....Yes it does  >:D

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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #58 on: October 07, 2015, 04:13:20 PM »
Hey Robbo, you don't have any mirrors in your house huh.

Robbo's hot..... that cracked me up.

As for the drone, yep, knock the turd of a thing to the ground then back over it a few times.... ooops, sooooorrry.
Here's ya drone back.
If the owner of said drone carries on, knock the turd of a thing to the ground, but maybe not back over him... ok.

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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #59 on: October 07, 2015, 04:39:50 PM »
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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2015, 05:17:30 PM »
I don't know jack squat about drones. However I suspect they could move our of the way of a high pressure water cleaner or a hose fairly reasonably.  Any other device seems likely to possibly cause damage to innocent neighbours property if fired at a drone.  I like most of my neighbours. However if one of them shot at a trespassing drone/copter thingy. And a projectile hit something in my yard, I suspect that would start a bigger issue then the original drone issue.
I would guess if a drone was in my front yard I would try my hardest to follow it and then have a chat with the owners about why their drone was up near my house.  I might have to run 100-200 metres. But they still have to get their drone, pack it, get in their vehicle/hide etc.

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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2015, 05:55:07 PM »
Option 1..
I trespass onto a stranger's front lawn at their home; and gawk through her front window...

Option 2...
I send my $%#& Drone onto her property - it also has eyes (video equipped) - and I have a gawk through her front window...   


... yeah - why did its (responsible law abiding drone owner) fly it onto private property (and very close to the poster's home)??


Thus "my intent" is the same...   

WHAT THE FREAK - was that drone doing at the roof line of the poster's home??


Nah - its bullshxt  -- somehow smash the falker out of the air - if possible...

... if it looks like a duck; and quacks like a duck; and smells like a duck - its a duck; okay?

I am sure there are some responsible drone users out there - but a quick look on you tube shows plenty examples of drone miss use...

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#  The preceding is intended to show the irony of the "protests of innocence" .. from the drone-lover(s)...

 
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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2015, 06:04:16 PM »
Yeah, that's why I said bad example ;) :)

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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2015, 06:13:27 PM »
Option 1..
I trespass onto a stranger's front lawn at their home; and gawk through her front window...

Option 2...
I send my $%#& Drone onto her property - it also has eyes (video equipped) - and I have a gawk through her front window...   


... yeah - why did its (responsible law abiding drone owner) fly it onto private property (and very close to the poster's home)??


Thus "my intent" is the same...   

WHAT THE FREAK - was that drone doing at the roof line of the poster's home??


Nah - its bullshxt  -- somehow smash the falker out of the air - if possible...

... if it looks like a duck; and quacks like a duck; and smells like a duck - its a duck; okay?

I am sure there are some responsible drone users out there - but a quick look on you tube shows plenty examples of drone miss use...

Footnote 1
#  I do not own a drone
Footnote 2
#  The preceding is intended to show the irony of the "protests of innocence" .. from the drone-lover(s)...
Wow, what a conclusive scenario you have painted. And all of that gathered from the same information I read by the OP, yet I can't for the life of me arrive at the same conclusion, why? Because your embelishments bear little resemblence to the picture I see given the information we have all been provided. But don't let that stop you, I love a good story, please tell us more.
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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2015, 06:19:07 PM »
I love drones when I see the word it reminds me of scones :)
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« Reply #65 on: October 07, 2015, 06:57:06 PM »
I love drones when I see the word it reminds me of scones :)
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« Reply #66 on: October 07, 2015, 06:58:54 PM »
My lovely made a batch tonight.

All gone now...... ;D ;D
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« Reply #67 on: October 07, 2015, 07:13:21 PM »
My lovely made a batch tonight.

All gone now...... ;D ;D

Yeah I was think about doing the same now, might get the whip out.
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« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2015, 07:16:50 PM »
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« Reply #69 on: October 07, 2015, 07:40:02 PM »
Leather or cream?
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« Reply #70 on: October 07, 2015, 07:48:24 PM »
From a rogue drone to S&M. Only on MySwag


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« Reply #71 on: October 07, 2015, 08:30:38 PM »

Use one to get the other...
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« Reply #72 on: October 07, 2015, 08:33:20 PM »

Bingo!!

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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #73 on: October 07, 2015, 08:34:32 PM »
Ok this got me concerned straight away so apologies for the long response...

Understand people's concern about privacy and yes there's a lot of idiots out there who operates drones (and cars, motorbikes, jet skis like others have mentioned) and set a bad stereotype example, but there are also great operators too!

For us drone operators who want to do the right thing and learn the rules as a hobbiest, or go pro and get our casa licence so we register flight plans and legally fly where we need to do our work, it's scary how many people are willing to take matters into their own hands and smash/destroy our business property without getting their facts right first, and sadly sometimes threads like this encourage that kind of behaviour when people don't self educate.

Legally if we are allowed to be there and can prove height and gps coordinates as per flight plan lodged with casa, we can and will sue for damages to our craft and loss of income etc. Interesting hey?

Have I opened up a can of worms again? Probably. Will this generate more kill and destroy responses? Probably. But I like the responses about the scones better.

Robbo - sounds crap that someone is flying on your property without permission and totally agree that finding the operator and talking to them is the best policy to ensure it doesn't happen again. Flying so close to the house ain't cool and something I don't condone.

At the end of the day, I would hate for our professional drone to be destroyed by some moron who chose to act and destroy our property, when we had every right to be there in the first place.

Just another voice/opinion to consider.

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Re: Drones in Suburbia
« Reply #74 on: October 07, 2015, 08:47:53 PM »
Yep, happy for people to fly these things somewhere other than my front or back yard. To be honest, if this thing was 20m in the air I probably wouldn't of known it was there. Like I said, I just don't think the laws have kept up with technology.


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