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Fixing faults in a Gyprock wall which has been painted
« on: July 24, 2015, 12:11:37 PM »
Hi All,

A couple of years ago we did some house renovations and the plasterer didn’t sand the walls properly, so on certain walls you can still see little mounds over the nail holes especially at night. I should have done something about it at the time but back then but my builder got a life threatening condition towards the end of my job, so like expected his mind was on other things.  Plus we were in a hurry to move in.

I’ve now had enough of these little mounds and want to fix the problem, does anyone know if the fix is as simple as hiring a dustless Giraffe sander and sanding through the paint to the original plaster to smooth the affected areas, or will I need a get a plasterer in to  apply a larger area of wet plaster/gap filler and then resand to flatten out the area?

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Re: Fixing faults in a Gyprock wall which has been painted
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2015, 01:09:29 PM »
Have had a similar issue where the filler over the screws has dropped out and left a hole. Probably as a result of two teenagers slamming doors nearby.  :angel: :angel:
Just filled the hole with spak filla and sanded, dob of sealer over the top and paint over. Job done and would never have guessed it was a fixit job. I just used a small hand mouse sander with 120 grit but guess it depends on how much you have to do.
Just make sure you reseal over the sanded area otherwise the paint will absorb into the area and look different to the rest of the wall.
Not as hard as one would think. I did it so anyone can.   :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: Fixing faults in a Gyprock wall which has been painted
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2015, 04:22:55 PM »
I have had some success using a "multi-tool" sander on nails holes etc.
It really depends on how bad it is.

You can hire a professional rotary gyprock sander, if there is a heap to do.
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Re: Fixing faults in a Gyprock wall which has been painted
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2015, 09:12:15 AM »
Appreciate the replies guys and seeing I have about 30 mounds to sand I might hire a dustless rotary gyprock sander as think that’s $70 well spent instead on using my electric sander and getting dust all over the house.

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Re: Fixing faults in a Gyprock wall which has been painted
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2015, 03:27:39 PM »
That's a bummer Beachman,
Generally on walls ,you only nail at the bottom of the sheet(hidden by the skirting, top of the sheet (hidden by the wide plaster joint between sheets) and again at the top of sheet(Hidden by the cornice) and then dabs of stud adhesive in between, Platerers hate sanding more than they have to at the best of times
 Just becareful not to over sand the bumps and fur up the paper,
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Re: Fixing faults in a Gyprock wall which has been painted
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2015, 07:25:21 PM »
Mate sand them back with say 120 grit sand paper ,so that it cuts through the paint  a tad easier , you don't have to sand the crap out of them , unless they are really hideous
Then you can get a general purpose top cote  to skim coat the offending nail holes , skim coat being the operative word 
If I can offer one piece of advice ,run the palm / fingers of your hands over your patches after you sand them ,best tools you have
What kind of light fittings are in the offending rooms  ,a bare naked bulb turned on will show a multitude of defects in plasterboard  ,unnatural light ,not just in the joints but paper defects too ,one reason most new homes come with cheap light fittings
Run your hand over them first ,before attacking them
 take a pic and go to a plaster supply and ask them  ,if you are able to do that
Actually a pic would be good might be helpful ,yes I am in the trade too so I do have a rough idea ,very rough  haha
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Re: Fixing faults in a Gyprock wall which has been painted
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2015, 03:57:03 AM »
Over this side  ;D it's not uncommon to paint PVA over the old plaster and re skim plaster to a smooth finish. Hides all sorts of horribleness. :cheers:
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Re: Fixing faults in a Gyprock wall which has been painted
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2015, 12:33:24 PM »
Mate sand them back with say 120 grit sand paper ,so that it cuts through the paint  a tad easier , you don't have to sand the crap out of them , unless they are really hideous
Then you can get a general purpose top cote  to skim coat the offending nail holes , skim coat being the operative word 
If I can offer one piece of advice ,run the palm / fingers of your hands over your patches after you sand them ,best tools you have
What kind of light fittings are in the offending rooms  ,a bare naked bulb turned on will show a multitude of defects in plasterboard  ,unnatural light ,not just in the joints but paper defects too ,one reason most new homes come with cheap light fittings
Run your hand over them first ,before attacking them
 take a pic and go to a plaster supply and ask them  ,if you are able to do that
Actually a pic would be good might be helpful ,yes I am in the trade too so I do have a rough idea ,very rough  haha
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Hi Graham,

Really appreciate your reply. Daytime most people wouldn’t even see these faults, but at night seeing we have really good LED lighting that’s then these faults become very noticeable.

When you say 120 grit sand paper, is that to do by hand or can I use my little rotary sander? As mentioned before I don’t want to over sand and ruin the paper.

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Re: Fixing faults in a Gyprock wall which has been painted
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2015, 05:57:46 PM »
The rotary sander should be fine  the paint is the worse thing it will glug up your paper ,take it easy and all should be good
These lights are they in close to the wall ,as in directly casting the light down the wall/ walls  this generally shows defects not seen in natural light ,but highlighted when said light is used
Don't worry about the paper surface ,if it only nail /screw holes to be rectified  sand back to the paper ,go further if needed ,although I cannot see why you would need to
Think of your join in the plaster sheets ,no paper there it's just a surface for the paint to grab , don't be scared to give the paint alight sand in between coats
You have the benefit of seeing your work too at night when the lights are on  highlighting the nail holes
The dust problem can be as easy as letting your vacuum run under the piece being sanded ,catching the dust immediately , or most of it
I sometimes use a block of wood with a bit of sand paper ,same grit  ,but I have a bucket of water and dip it in and basically wet and dry it  ,I use a damp sponge to catch the excess water or maybe add a bit of water , when I'm happy I let it dry ,a quick sand ,then give it a thin coat of whatever you are using to patch with
This is a pretty good fix for really crappy work 
All you are doing is prepping a substrate for the paint ,so don't be shy about sanding or even trying the wet and dry method 
It's hard to describe a soloution as we cannot see it in the flesh ,I'm doing my neighbours house at the moment ,and commented on a mark in the wall that he noticed at night ,couldn't see it during the day so I told him to put some tape on it at night so we could fix it  so don't be shy about marking the nail holes you can see at night with the lights on ,hate to hear you missed one ,I know it would Shit me to tears after painting  and seeing a wee mark I missed
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Re: Fixing faults in a Gyprock wall which has been painted
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2015, 07:00:03 PM »
Also, when you go to paint it, paint the whole wall instead of touching the patches or it stands out bad. I'm not trying to tell you to suck eggs, but I see a lot of people do this & it's not a good look.