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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2015, 01:32:57 PM »
Just chuck a couple of rags under the saw in the case. Try and use fresh fuel!!
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2015, 03:53:39 PM »
All saws will leak some bar oil, just store it with an old tower underneath.
I've also got a Stihl MS 290 Farm Boss & it stays clean which makes the leaking from the 170 even more annoying but I do have lots of oily rags to wrap things in when on the beach ;D
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2015, 04:05:27 PM »
I will go the other way

For northern WA you wont need one it is to hot

For other locations the roadside hunt with the bow saw has always done the job

As for southern WA most of the good spots are national parks or other restricted areas so it is a bag of wood from bunnings if you want a fire
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2015, 04:34:42 PM »
$350, 5 year warranty and 3 year warranty on battery.
No fuel to carry/mix

How good is this thing?

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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2015, 05:00:37 PM »
All saws will leak some bar oil, just store it with an old tower underneath.

I do.....2 towels......but they get pretty grubby fairly quick then have to be chucked out...no way of getting rid of that oil soaked mess..
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2015, 05:06:11 PM »
I will go the other way

For northern WA you wont need one it is to hot


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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2015, 05:16:52 PM »
interesting about the feedback on national parks.
So the "rules" are in QLD you aren't allowed to collect firewood (chainsaw or anything) from within a national park..
At Murray Falls campground in NQ there is actually a firewood area, in which you can get out the chainsaw and actually cut some wood for a fire.
So from what i've been told by rangers and reading it's not about you aren't allowed a chainsaw, you aren't allowed to cut wood from a national park.
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2015, 10:17:36 PM »
How good is this thing?

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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2015, 06:16:23 AM »
$350, 5 year warranty and 3 year warranty on battery.
No fuel to carry/mix

Where can you get this for $350, every search I bring up its up around $500

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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2015, 09:15:26 AM »
Where can you get this for $350, every search I bring up its up around $500

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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2015, 09:45:35 AM »
It all depend on if you are going to wolf Creek or not  ???

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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2015, 10:08:09 AM »
I have a Stihl 171 which I keep in the camper for "emergencies" but as others have said it is illegal to have them in NSW NP's so mine is kept in a large ammo case with the bar removed - maybe not within the wording of the law but enough hopefully to prove that I am complying with the spirit of the law - not that I have heard of the NPWS ever mounting roadblocks and checking everyone coming and going.
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2015, 10:32:24 AM »
I have a Stihl 171 which I keep in the camper for "emergencies" but as others have said it is illegal to have them in NSW NP's

Can anyone post a link to anywhere where it says that ?

Most nat parks don't allow their use ( or the gathering of firewood ), but don't know of anywhere where they are not even allowed in your possession ??  Not in NSW anyway...have heard in WA that the bar needs to be removed to render it inoperative ??
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2015, 11:12:28 AM »
National Parks and Wildlife Regulation 2009

Part 3
Section 11

(1)  A person must not:
(j)  carry, possess or use any spray cans of paint, or any boltcutters, oxy-acetylene equipment, angle grinder or other cutting equipment in a park,

With a clarification below of:

(5)  A person does not commit an offence under subclause (1) (j) or (k) merely because the person carries or possesses any object referred to in that subclause on a road traversing a park if the person does not stop in the park.
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2015, 11:43:00 AM »
National Parks and Wildlife Regulation 2009

Part 3
Section 11

(1)  A person must not:
(j)  carry, possess or use any spray cans of paint, or any boltcutters, oxy-acetylene equipment, angle grinder or other cutting equipment in a park,

So a bow saw is out too, and a pocket knife and the butter knife for cutting your sandwiches? Or are they just talking about stuff for cutting locks?

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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2015, 11:43:46 AM »
i reckon you could easily argue that those "cutting" devices would be for breaking into something.. i.e a car or caravan or building.
It doesn't directly call out chainsaws..
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2015, 11:50:33 AM »
Section 20 specifically excludes knives and other eating implements, and if I had posted the next line it states:

(k)  possess or have custody of any key or other similar device that is capable of opening any lock or other device securing a gate or barricade located in a park, or

There may be some wiggle room there - as with everything it depends on the interpretation.  Is it just cutting tools to cause damage to locks? - well it doesn't specifically say so IMHO it bars all cutting tools that are not specifically permitted?

Full text below:


11   Littering and damage

        (1)  A person must not:

            (a)  deposit or leave any litter in a park except in an area or receptacle provided by the park authority for that purpose, or

            (b)  if no area or receptacle for litter is provided by the park authority—fail to remove from the park all litter taken into or created by the person in the park, or

            (c)  deposit or leave any waste in a park, or

            (d)  deposit, discharge or leave in a park any offal, filth, dung or dead animal or any noisome, noxious, offensive or polluting substance, matter or thing, or

            (e)  wilfully break any article of glass, china, pottery or plastic in a park, or

            (f)  write or paint or otherwise mark or affix any bill, notice or advertisement on or to, or deface by painting, carving, scratching or any other means, or damage, destroy, remove or interfere with, any fixture, improvement, rock, tree, equipment, water supply or Aboriginal object in a park, or

            (g)  deposit, leave or abandon a vehicle or part of a vehicle in a park, or

            (h)  carry or possess, interfere with, dig up, cut up, collect or remove for any purpose any soil, sand, gravel, fossil, clay, rock, ochre, mineral, timber (whether or not consisting of or including dead timber), gum resin, humus or other natural substance or object in a park, whether on land or on or under water, or

            (i)  dam, divert or pollute the water in any waters or water tank in a park, or

            (j)  carry, possess or use any spray cans of paint, or any boltcutters, oxy-acetylene equipment, angle grinder or other cutting equipment in a park, or

            (k)  possess or have custody of any key or other similar device that is capable of opening any lock or other device securing a gate or barricade located in a park, or

            (l)  discharge stormwater into a park.

        Maximum penalty: 30 penalty units.

        (2)  A person does not commit an offence under this clause for anything done or omitted:

            (a)  with the consent of a park authority and in accordance with any conditions to which the consent is subject, or

            (b)  if the act or omission occurred in or in relation to a ski resort area in Kosciuszko National Park and was necessary for the carrying out of:

                (i)  development in accordance with a development consent (within the meaning of the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act 1979), or

                (ii)  an activity, whether by or pursuant to an approval of a determining authority, if the determining authority has complied with Part 5 of the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act 1979, or

                (iii)  a project approved under Part 3A of the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act 1979, or

                (iv)  State significant infrastructure approved under Part 5.1 of the Environmental Planning and Assessment Act 1979, or

            (c)  if the act or omission occurred in or in relation to a place in Kosciuszko National Park (other than a ski resort area) and was necessary for the carrying out of development in accordance with a development consent that is taken to have been granted to Snowy Hydro Limited under section 41 (4) of the Snowy Hydro Corporatisation Act 1997, or

            (d)  if the act or omission was authorised by or under Part 2 of the Rural Fires Act 1997, the State Emergency and Rescue Management Act 1989 or the State Emergency Service Act 1989 and was reasonably necessary in order to avoid a threat to life or property.

        (3)  A person does not commit an offence under subclause (1) (h) if the substance or object referred to in that paragraph:

            (a)  was obtained by the person from a person authorised to sell such substances or objects or from an area outside a park, or

            (b)  is firewood:

                (i)  that has been provided at established visitor use areas in the park where the burning of fires is permitted, or

                (ii)  that comes from deadfalls of timber, if timber is not provided at established visitor use areas in the park.

        (4)  However, for the avoidance of doubt, subclause (3) (b) (ii) does not permit a person to collect deadfalls of timber for firewood in contravention of a notice (as referred to in clause 4) or an oral direction (as referred to in clause 5).

        (5)  A person does not commit an offence under subclause (1) (j) or (k) merely because the person carries or possesses any object referred to in that subclause on a road traversing a park if the person does not stop in the park.
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2015, 11:59:02 AM »
i can tell you from a "legal" standpoint that if it doesn't directly state the word "CHAINSAW" and it's a common item taken camping then you would be allowed to Posses it under law. It's all about "exclusion" they would need to specifically state that it is EXCLUDED.. By default then everything else is included.. (as you can imagine that is just a legal side of things) something i've learnt alot about in the past year. :) (for all the wrong reasons!)
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2015, 12:01:03 PM »
Subclass 3,4,5 are all good, which means you can't collect it unless they say you can. Though no where does it specifically state you cannot carry a chainsaw.
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2015, 12:06:14 PM »


   (l)  discharge stormwater into a park.


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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2015, 12:16:43 PM »

   (l)  discharge stormwater into a park.


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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2015, 12:30:56 PM »
Those rules were for Kosciuszko....not that I could find them.....are they similar for other parks ??

When it says a penalty of 30 points.....what does that mean ??



Anyway ...chainsaws are go !!   :cup:


Interesting story from approx 3 years ago........was camping at Jounama Creek ( I think that's in Kossie nat park ) and a bloke 20M away got the chat from a ranger for cleaning his chainsaw....said he could have fined him for having it ( or maybe he thought he was going to use it ?? )....now under the rules, he should have been able to do anything with it as long as he didn't use it....but I suppose if you see a ranger, it would be best if those sort of things weren't on show ??
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2015, 12:34:55 PM »
Those rules were for Kosciuszko....not that I could find them.....are they similar for other parks ??

When it says a penalty of 30 points.....what does that mean ??

have seen this come up recently to

i think if you accumulate enough points you get banned or something ???
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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2015, 12:52:06 PM »
Used to buy bags of wood for years when camping or for a fire at home.

Ended up getting a husky chainsaw 6 months ago and collect our own firewood now. So much better from a cost perspective and actually find that we collect better wood than what's in the bags.

We also carry a Fiskars axe, a blocksplitter and several wedges as well.

We go free camping as much as possible in state parks as we take our dog with us...but if we ever do camp in national parks, we'll take some wood with us and buy a couple bags on the way as well. Better to respect the rules, not use it and keep it out of sight.

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Re: Do you Use or *Need* a Chainsaw
« Reply #49 on: May 29, 2015, 01:27:39 PM »
. Better to respect the rules, not use it and keep it out of sight.

Of course.....I'll cut some wood before we get into the nat park..
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