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Re: Worlds Largest Vehicle recall - 556,000 Airbag issues
« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2015, 05:57:57 AM »
Australian consumer law is very tough in his instance
Products have to last an expeced time and perform its duty
Airbags have to be replaced at sometime, id guess this is expected lofe. Thought it was 20 years
If your car has them fitted they must work properly, same as any other safety device like seatbelts and ABS, EBS etc
Does this mean, now we know about the issue a roadworthy could be declined if vehicle on the list? Not likely

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Re: Worlds Largest Vehicle recall - 556,000 Airbag issues
« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2015, 09:27:50 AM »
Interestingly, volvo state that the airbags are good for the service life of the car now. Originally it was 10 years, which got progresivly extended out with there own follow up crash testing and research. They are not on the airbag recall list either so obviously dont use takata sourced parts ;D

As for the replacement timeframes, well theres not much even the car manufacurers can do about that as I imagine takata is either going to be flat our to produce enough to supply the replacments, or go broke trying and then some other manufactures are going to have to take up the slack

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Re: Worlds Largest Vehicle recall - 556,000 Airbag issues
« Reply #52 on: May 25, 2015, 04:36:59 PM »
Australian consumer law is very tough in his instance
Products have to last an expeced time and perform its duty
Airbags have to be replaced at sometime, id guess this is expected lofe. Thought it was 20 years
If your car has them fitted they must work properly, same as any other safety device like seatbelts and ABS, EBS etc
Does this mean, now we know about the issue a roadworthy could be declined if vehicle on the list? Not likely


Got some bad news for you, bearing in mind with our piddling market we get whatever the EU/California/Japan decide they need and our Regulators wanting to feel useful rubber stamp it within a year or two-
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2015/02/12/paris-to-ban-all-old-cars-from-city-limits-starting-next-year/
So no cars over 10 yr old in Paris eh? Not even DPFs will cut it by 2020 as the EU ramps up Euro 4,5 and 6 emission Standards in the meantime.
Pay attention folks and stop thinking about new cars as anything more than 10 year or less crushables, particularly with all those use-by stamped airbags they'll soon be fitted with
There's no Great Evil conspiracy against consumers within engineering, manufacturing and supply. Just the many tradeoffs incurred to satisfy diverse tastes, priorities and wallets. But first comes all the insatiable Gummint eggsperts, nanny-staters and usual suspects.

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Re: Worlds Largest Vehicle recall - 556,000 Airbag issues
« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2015, 10:29:22 AM »
I see the queue is growing-
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business/companies/airbag-recall-tally-climbs-past-660000-in-australia-as-more-suspect-cars-added/story-fnkjkh00-1227381876863?sv=82c5bb2651aeeeade8e8334c9f78c5da
and in particular-

“Airbags are not a discretionary item of equipment and cannot be simply turned off and on again. The mechanism is technically sophisticated and forms an important part of the vehicle’s engineering.”

I discovered that with our Suzy SX4 when the airbag warning light came on due to the missus dumping a heavy box of books on the passenger seat and I googled for some enlightenment. The upshot was there's a micro sensor pad in the seat and it's linked to the exploding inertia reel seatbelt actuator and the airbags. With all the dash, side seat and head curtain airbags nowadays a minor/false bump setoff is extremely expensive and hence the added sophistication a lot like infra red plus movement with burglar alarm sensing. In the airbag case the occupant weight must leave the seat at the same time the seatbelt is jerked and at the right level the airbags deploy. All tied to the ECU and error light and codes if something goes awry. Well my net search showed some owners having to cough up $1500 to replace a seat sensor pad if that was the problem and- Yikes!

Off to the autoelec with it and he plugs in the tester and pronounces there's a number of error codes gone down here mate (sweat, sweat) but there's a low battery one too so howsabout we start with a new battery first and reflash it? Yep and that fixed it but I'd had a crash course in why it aint so easy to wave the magic wand over this enormous air bag problem. As they say-
"Legal experts say motorists have little choice but to endure the painstaking wait for the replacements, and they can’t sue the car companies unless someone dies or is seriously injured from the defective airbags."
In the meantime if you want to sell or trade-in one of the models, the Dealers won't want to take the risk with them in today''s litigation environment, so where will that leave the private market?
There's no Great Evil conspiracy against consumers within engineering, manufacturing and supply. Just the many tradeoffs incurred to satisfy diverse tastes, priorities and wallets. But first comes all the insatiable Gummint eggsperts, nanny-staters and usual suspects.

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Re: Worlds Largest Vehicle recall - 556,000 Airbag issues
« Reply #54 on: June 04, 2015, 12:10:36 PM »
Traded in our 2002 Maxima on Saturday, which is on the recall list.

Now to check if the 2008 Tarago is on the list... Nope, sweet...


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Re: Worlds Largest Vehicle recall - 556,000 Airbag issues
« Reply #55 on: December 02, 2015, 06:41:28 PM »
Got a letter from Nissan today saying Patrol is subject to the recall. They hope the parts will be here in March 2016 and Nissan will then arrange fitting free of charge.

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Re: Worlds Largest Vehicle recall - 556,000 Airbag issues
« Reply #56 on: December 03, 2015, 07:43:55 AM »
Received my letter yesterday. It is interesting when this was aired I contacted local NISSAN Dealer a couple of months later and the service manager assured me that my model was not involved and to forget about it.

Let's see what happens when I get the next letter and take it to the same dealer.


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Re: Worlds Largest Vehicle recall - 556,000 Airbag issues
« Reply #57 on: December 03, 2015, 07:57:13 PM »
Got my letter today aswell, parts won't be available until around April '16.

Hope they don't make as much mess of this as when they replaced my dash pad.....twice.

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Re: Worlds Largest Vehicle recall - 556,000 Airbag issues
« Reply #58 on: December 04, 2015, 10:11:17 AM »
Got one for the Maxima also.

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Re: Worlds Largest Vehicle recall - 556,000 Airbag issues
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2015, 11:20:52 AM »
Yeah the lad's fiancé got a letter from Nissan re the T30 X-Trail I bought for her privately last Xmas so obviously there's a tie-up with SA rego here as there's no other way Nissan would know she owns it as they haven't serviced it with a Nissan Dealer since purchase and the first owner didn't either after warranty service.

Edit- On second thoughts perhaps Nissan contacted the first owner and she passed on the new owner details to them? (her year wasn't initially on the list when I checked so they've definitely expanded the recall within models)
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There's no Great Evil conspiracy against consumers within engineering, manufacturing and supply. Just the many tradeoffs incurred to satisfy diverse tastes, priorities and wallets. But first comes all the insatiable Gummint eggsperts, nanny-staters and usual suspects.