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Offline Clouty

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #50 on: March 11, 2015, 06:51:49 PM »
Cable ties are a good idea though oldmate :cup: Might have to give it a go ;D
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #51 on: March 11, 2015, 07:13:34 PM »
The cable ties will stop the chains dragging along the road  ;D

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« Reply #52 on: March 11, 2015, 07:15:07 PM »
I chuckle when I see utes using cheap alloy karabiners as a way of extending the chains on their trailer :)
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2015, 07:15:41 PM »
Quote from: Clouty on March 11, 2015, 06:51:49 PM
Cable ties are a good idea though oldmate :cup: Might have to give it a go ;D

I'll sell ya  some of mine, $3 each. Cheaper than steel shackles and uv rated these ones. Made using a propane cooker so perfectly safe  :cup: :cup:
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #54 on: March 11, 2015, 09:52:02 PM »
Quote from: KingBilly on March 11, 2015, 07:13:34 PM
The cable ties will stop the chains dragging along the road  ;D

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You talkin bout chains or nuckles  ??? ???
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2015, 06:02:30 AM »
Quote from: gordo350 on March 11, 2015, 06:15:22 PM
I bought the trailer with chains attached.  If I put crap shackles on thats my problem.  The chains are the manufacturer's problem.  I am not educated enough to warrant the effectiveness of said chains. Use rated shackles.

Some how I don't think it's the manufacturers fault.  :D

It's been done to death a million times, probably more than the great D shackle debate, but here it is again........

All pig trailers with rigid drawbars (with or without breakaway brakes—but excluding converter dollies) and, any other trailer without breakaway brakes, must be fitted with safety chains that are marked in accordance with the relevant Australian Standard and (or cables as applicable) complying with the following:

trailers that do not exceed 2.5 tonnes ATM must have at least one safety chain complying with Australian Standard AS 4177.4-1994 or Australian Standard AS 4177.4-2004 ‘Caravan and light trailer towing components —Part 4: Safety chains up to 3500kg capacity’, or be a safety cable with a certified load capacity of the same;
trailers over 2.5 tonnes and not exceed 3.5 tonnes ATM must have two safety chains of designation of 3500 kg complying with Australian Standard AS 4177.4-1994 or Australian Standard AS 4177.42004;


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« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2015, 06:04:37 AM »
Quote from: Footy Shorts Shane on March 11, 2015, 04:56:35 AM
How many here have rated shackles on non rated chain?

Be honest  ;D

No one?

I'll go first, Me.
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2015, 06:14:16 AM »
As I said.  The chains are fitted by the manufacturer.  If they dont comply to the standards it their problem
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2015, 07:51:25 AM »
I just use tie wire. Rated of course.
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2015, 08:01:07 AM »
Quote from: muzza01 on March 12, 2015, 07:51:25 AM
I just use tie wire. Rated of course.

Almost as good as cable ties :cup:
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2015, 08:09:00 AM »
Quote from: Footy Shorts Shane on March 11, 2015, 04:56:35 AM
How many here have rated shackles on non rated chain?

Be honest  ;D

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #61 on: March 12, 2015, 11:10:59 AM »
There is only one tried and true method to cease all this endless debate, furphys and old husband's tales-

6 B&S  :cup:
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #62 on: March 12, 2015, 02:10:31 PM »
Quote from: Fathom on March 11, 2015, 06:38:07 PM
Black ones or white ones?
Just wanna make sure I get it right.
Always use black ones in the outdoor environment because the white ones aren't UV stabilised.    Hey maybe that's a good topic for a new thread!!!
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« Reply #63 on: March 12, 2015, 06:41:53 PM »
I can’t believe someone has not mentioned about crossing your chains.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   Kevin

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #64 on: March 12, 2015, 06:42:12 PM »
Quote from: Fathom on March 11, 2015, 06:38:07 PM
Black ones or white ones?
Just wanna make sure I get it right.

no need to be racist. Prick!  ;D
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2015, 06:43:04 PM »
Quote from: krisandkev on March 12, 2015, 06:41:53 PM
I can’t believe someone has not mentioned about crossing your chains.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   Kevin




clouty sort of did, they will cross over something when you throw them over the drawbar  :cup:
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2015, 06:46:15 PM »

Quote from: feisty on March 12, 2015, 02:10:31 PM
Always use black ones in the outdoor environment because the white ones aren't UV stabilised.    Hey maybe that's a good topic for a new thread!!!
Aha thanks for that.
I will get that right now.
Luckily  I haven't seen any other colours.
This is the reason I think this forum is great.
Lots of awesome advice. Bit of fun along the way.  :)

Nb... My shackles are rated. But not because I believe it's law. Because I believe it's safer. .
I have no idea if my chain is.  It came welded to the camper chassis.
You may be able to rate a chain but I am not sure you can rate welds....
Unless you strap over the top  of the welds with black cable ties maybe? :)
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D- Shackles
« Reply #67 on: March 12, 2015, 06:47:12 PM »
Quote from: oldmate on March 12, 2015, 06:42:12 PM
no need to be racist. Prick!  ;D
I was waiting for that. lol.
Nb... I am not racist.. I have an equally low opinion of a huge variety of.., ok all races.
Especially cane toad racing. They are ugly.
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #68 on: March 12, 2015, 06:54:31 PM »
Quote from: krisandkev on March 12, 2015, 06:41:53 PM
I can’t believe someone has not mentioned about crossing your chains.   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   Kevin



If their not crossed just give the wheel a huge tug at a hundred clicks and they will cross when the trailer flips, ive heard it doesnt work with cable ties though
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« Reply #69 on: March 12, 2015, 07:00:02 PM »
See how much better is this tread now. Everyone has a smile on their dial.  ;D ;D

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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #70 on: March 12, 2015, 08:17:17 PM »
I use non rated shackles on my non rated chain.
I cross my chains twice.
Once over each other than once under each other for added strength.
But Im not worried because I always drive at least 20k under the speed limit.
And because law of averages says if an accident happens and my trailer flips it will flip to the left, I of course drive in the far right lane so if she goes over i have a lane or two to the left to stop.
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #71 on: March 12, 2015, 08:25:23 PM »

Quote from: Bill on March 12, 2015, 08:17:17 PM
I use non rated shackles on my non rated chain.
I cross my chains twice.
Once over each other than once under each other for added strength.
But Im not worried because I always drive at least 20k under the speed limit.
And because law of averages says if an accident happens and my trailer flips it will flip to the left, I of course drive in the far right lane so if she goes over i have a lane or two to the left to stop.
Bill
You may want to consider driving faster.
Then if your camper separates from your tug and your non rated shackles and non rated chain and non rated welds  break...
You will be a good extra 30 metres away. So it won't matter which way it rolls.
And your tug will be able to drive  you to a motel.
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2015, 08:38:35 PM »
Quote from: Fathom on March 12, 2015, 08:25:23 PM
You may want to consider driving faster.
Then if your camper separates from your tug and your non rated shackles and non rated chain and non rated welds  break...
You will be a good extra 30 metres away. So it won't matter which way it rolls.
And your tug will be able to drive  you to a motel.
Good idea.
Thanks!!
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« Reply #73 on: March 12, 2015, 08:43:46 PM »
This forum is so full of information  :cup:
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Re: D- Shackles
« Reply #74 on: March 12, 2015, 09:01:03 PM »
Quote from: oldmate on March 12, 2015, 08:43:46 PM
This forum is so full of information  :cup:

Have to agree..

I've learnt so much on this forum.. Stuff like my ute is not called a ute it's called a truck.. ;D

I'm now called a bickie dipper ;D
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