Author Topic: Be careful when using fuel dockets  (Read 18204 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Titfish

  • Tent User
  • ***
  • Posts: 175
  • Thanked: 15 times
  • Gender: Male
Be careful when using fuel dockets
« on: January 11, 2015, 09:36:03 PM »
Yesterday, when we were handed our docket for groceries the nice bloke who served us pointed out that if we took the docket to any Woolworths petrol outlet, bought $10 worth of product in store and showed our rewards card we would get 14 cents a litre off our bill. You beauty says me as I'm off tomorrow up to Byron Bay to see my mother for a few days.

So today I headed to the nearest outlet. My luck was in. There was no other vehicle at the diesel pump. So I put in 130 litres at $1.39 and it comes to $182.00. So I walk into pay and show the bloke at the counter my docket from yesterday plus my rewards card and my 10 bucks worth of product and ask for the discount. He says that, no they don't honour that as they are a Caltex, Woolworths outlet, not a woolworths outlet. I then point out to him that there is a woolworths sign in big print advertising that it is a woolworths outlet and he still refuses. I then ask him where it is shown that they do not honour this prior to me filling my car. No answer. I point out that I no longer want their product as it was not what I thought I was buying and asked how  was he going to get the fuel out of my car for a refund. The attendant tells me that this happens regularly. Oops. He should probably have not. At this stage an elderly gent behind me bought into the argument and suggested that the ACCC needs to be brought into it. I then ask the attendant for a phone number for me to ring. This he couldn't provide either.

By now I've had enough although I felt better when all those in the queue in the servo told the attendant that it was poor form. Getting home I then rang the local woolworths to speak to the manager. He couldn't help  and put me through to the front desk so that I could get a number to take the matter further. Again they couldn't give me a number. I tried to explain to the lady (I maybe using the term loosely) that, unlike in the shop, where I can choose to leave something behind at the checkout if I decide it is more expensive than I expected I can't do this with the fuel. She tried to fob me off and I told her that she was next to useless and hung up. It will be on tomorrow. I'll still get up to Byron but I think I'll be getting away a fair bit later than I thought.

Okay. I understand that I may not have read the fine print but when a member of their organisation gives me this information am I not entitled to think that it is accurate? Or maybe they need better training. It is not about the 18 bucks or whatever. It just makes my blood boil when companies such as this dangle the bait and then get you into a situation where you have to pay. It is bloody immoral.

I have the number for the ombudsman and the ACCC ready to ring in the morning.

Anyway the point of this is, if you are going to use discount vouchers promising the world go in and ask the attendant if their servo does indeed honour their promise. The one I went to didn't.

Am I being too precious?

By the way I checked other fuel outlets on the way home and I could have got it for $1.28 without any discount at another place. That didn't help my mood much either.

Cheers
Ken

Offline GeoffA

  • 2017 National Meet Volunteer
  • Hard Top Camper User
  • *****
  • Posts: 8493
  • Thanked: 607 times
  • Gender: Male
  • "If 1 axle is good, 2 must be better........."
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2015, 09:46:54 PM »
By the way I checked other fuel outlets on the way home and I could have got it for $1.28 without any discount at another place....

Really??.....and that surprised you??

Surely there are bigger issues to make a fuss about.....treat it as a learning experience.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2015, 09:56:34 PM by GeoffA »
Geoff and Kay

1999 GU TD42T wagon
2005 Coota Camper - gone, but never forgotten
2020 North Coast 15' Titanium - tandem, of course

Land Cruiser.....the Patrol that Toyota try to build.....

Offline dales133

  • Hard Top Camper User
  • ******
  • Posts: 2199
  • Thanked: 119 times
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2015, 09:48:54 PM »
We'd all be better off if we just boycotted the big 2 .
Supermarkets and servos because this is what we can expect now the competitions all been killed off

Offline Wagon Man

  • Tent User
  • ***
  • Posts: 155
  • Thanked: 2 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Here For A Goodtime As Well As A Long Time
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2015, 09:57:31 PM »
Titty, What is the location of this Caltex /Woolworths outlet ?
2013 Toyota Altitude SE Prado Graphite with a 2009 Billabong Safari Offroad Camper.

My Prado Build

Billabong Camper

Offline Pog

  • Soft Floor Camper User
  • ****
  • Posts: 678
  • Thanked: 18 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Insert personal text here...
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2015, 09:57:42 PM »
Really??.....and that surprised you??

 :cup: :cup:

I have never really been a fan of the docket discounts, especially in Renmark, where a few people have complained about the quality of the Woolworths Diesel, sometimes having contaminants (water) in it.

Their scheme is to get you into their servo to encourage you to spend more money. Items in the servo are generally sold with a much higher markup, so they don't really loose. Yes you might get a few $ off when you fill up, but then again, you found out you could have bought fuel $0.11 / ltrs cheaper down the road, without spending more money in store.

I agree, their sales tactics are extremely questionable, but 99% of Aussies already know this, and about 50% don't get sucked into it. That leaves a lot of people that do...
2013 Toyota Prado Altitude & Challenge Outback Deluxe Offroad Camper Trailer.
MY PRADO BUILD


Offline Titfish

  • Tent User
  • ***
  • Posts: 175
  • Thanked: 15 times
  • Gender: Male
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2015, 10:09:20 PM »
Wagon Man. the location is Caltex at New Lambton in Newcastle NSW.

GeoffA. No, I'm not really too surprised at all. P1ssed that I fell for it? Yes.

I must agree with others about the wisdom of my choice. They won't see me again and I have never filled up at either of the big 2 servos previously.

What erks me most is just how much they must make through giving miss information and forcing people to pay as it is impossible to return the product. Hopefully by passing on my experience I might just save others from a similar experience.

Cheers
Ken

Offline Wagon Man

  • Tent User
  • ***
  • Posts: 155
  • Thanked: 2 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Here For A Goodtime As Well As A Long Time
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2015, 10:33:18 PM »
Ken, I had a quick look on google earth and it seems to be a Caltex Store outlet.


Below is a summary of the Woolworths petrol /Caltex alliance.

CALTEX WOOLWORTHS STORE (Owned & Operated by Woolworths)
Caltex Woolworths branded price board Woolworths branded store
Fuel offer: Save up to 8c per litre of fuel by spending $30 or more at Woolworths
Supermarkets and spending $5 or more in-store.


CALTEX WOOLWORTHS ALLIANCE / REDEMPTION STORE (Owned & operated by Caltex or their franchisee)
Caltex Starmart or Caltex Shop branded price board & store Woolworths branding on price board
No Woolworths branding on shop
Accepts the 4cpl Woolworths Supermarket fuel discount
No additional 4cpl discount with $5 spend in-store
Accepts WISH/Everyday Gift Cards but NOT eGift Cards


CALTEX STORE (No association with Woolworths)
No Woolworths branding
No alliance with Woolworths
No 4cpl Woolworths Supermarket fuel discount No WISH/Everyday/eGift cards accepted.
2013 Toyota Altitude SE Prado Graphite with a 2009 Billabong Safari Offroad Camper.

My Prado Build

Billabong Camper

Offline Titfish

  • Tent User
  • ***
  • Posts: 175
  • Thanked: 15 times
  • Gender: Male
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2015, 10:38:45 PM »
Thanks for the info Wagon Man.

I have no doubt that they are right and I am wrong. It is the way they operate. It just smells.

Thinking about it. Life ain't long enough to stress about this sort of garbage. Time to move on.

Where abouts on mid north coast are you? I'll pass by at some stage tomorrow. Hope the rain holds off and the traffic isn't too bad.
Ken

Offline Wagon Man

  • Tent User
  • ***
  • Posts: 155
  • Thanked: 2 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Here For A Goodtime As Well As A Long Time
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2015, 11:01:54 PM »
I'm up near Australia's longest bridge.

Looks like you will hit so rain on your way north, traffic should be good on a Monday.

Safe travels....


« Last Edit: January 12, 2015, 07:23:57 AM by Wagon Man »
2013 Toyota Altitude SE Prado Graphite with a 2009 Billabong Safari Offroad Camper.

My Prado Build

Billabong Camper

Offline Titfish

  • Tent User
  • ***
  • Posts: 175
  • Thanked: 15 times
  • Gender: Male
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2015, 11:06:44 PM »
Thanks Wagon Man. You live in a good part of the world.
Ken

Offline Kangaron

  • "Don't make excuses, Make it Happen."
  • Hard Top Camper User
  • ******
  • Posts: 1878
  • Thanked: 119 times
  • Gender: Male

Offline torsion

  • Soft Floor Camper User
  • ****
  • Posts: 358
  • Thanked: 2 times
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2015, 12:01:35 AM »
Woolworths and coles are pieces of Shit companies, ripn motorists off everywhere even when you don't use this hoax docket scheme.
Sooner its banned the better.

Offline Homer_Jay

  • Soft Floor Camper User
  • ****
  • Posts: 464
  • Thanked: 13 times
  • Gender: Male
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2015, 05:45:46 AM »
I had one of those the other day.
It said on it something about only being accepted at participating outlets (or something along those lines). I thought, well I don't know what outlets are participating so I threw it out.

I do agree that it is bad form to have this and it not be available at all Woolworths branded fuel outlets.


Landcruiser 76 wagon V8 T/D

Supreme Getaway pop top 12 ft

Offline D4D

  • Hard Top Camper User
  • ******
  • Posts: 16019
  • Thanked: 391 times
  • Are we there yet?
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2015, 06:57:35 AM »
I fill at my local Caltex/Woolies with Vortex diesel, and usually get a 4c/L discount if I spend $5 in store, a couple of cherry ripes :) Yesterday the dude says if you spend another $5 in store he'll give me another 6c/L off. As I had bought 156L I couldn't resist, $15.60 off and a stack of cherry ripes :)
I owe, I owe, it’s off to work I go…

Work - Outback
Play - Prado

Marschy

  • Guest
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2015, 07:11:33 AM »
There is a fuel war going on here in Adelaide at the moment between the new Costco petrol station and the Coles Express petrol station. Costco are selling diesel for 115.7. My membership has paid for itself already and I have never set foot in the store.

Offline ScottT

  • Soft Floor Camper User
  • ****
  • Posts: 276
  • Thanked: 12 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Random acts of kindness without expectations
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2015, 07:25:36 AM »
I fill at my local Caltex/Woolies with Vortex diesel, and usually get a 4c/L discount if I spend $5 in store, a couple of cherry ripes :) Yesterday the dude says if you spend another $5 in store he'll give me another 6c/L off. As I had bought 156L I couldn't resist, $15.60 off and a stack of cherry ripes :)

So do I, but I don't have a fuel discount receipt or my Wife's Woolworths  discount card but I put it on them every time for a discount and get it every time, well I didn't yesterday  >:(
2005 Toyota Prado 1KZ 120 Series
2008 Customline 12ft Deluxe Off Road

Offline Wagon Man

  • Tent User
  • ***
  • Posts: 155
  • Thanked: 2 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Here For A Goodtime As Well As A Long Time
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2015, 07:27:36 AM »
The current save up to 14cents per litre promotion is running till the 04/02/2015.
2013 Toyota Altitude SE Prado Graphite with a 2009 Billabong Safari Offroad Camper.

My Prado Build

Billabong Camper

Offline DrewXT

  • Hard Floor Camper User
  • *****
  • Posts: 1403
  • Thanked: 138 times
  • Gender: Male
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2015, 07:29:57 AM »
There is a fuel war going on here in Adelaide at the moment between the new Costco petrol station and the Coles Express petrol station. Costco are selling diesel for 115.7. My membership has paid for itself already and I have never set foot in the store.

In Adelaide do you have to pre-buy your fuel at Costco like you do in Canberra?  I was going to fill up there after Christmas, but refused to guess if I needed $100 or $120 worth of diesel to fill up...

Any idea who supplies them? Judging by the price it would have to be Mobil?

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk

2013 Amarok Highline
2015 Customline Adventure Walkup

Offline D4D

  • Hard Top Camper User
  • ******
  • Posts: 16019
  • Thanked: 391 times
  • Are we there yet?
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2015, 07:32:55 AM »
In Adelaide do you have to pre-buy your fuel at Costco like you do in Canberra?  I was going to fill up there after Christmas, but refused to guess if I needed $100 or $120 worth of diesel to fill up...

Don't travel to the US then, pre-pay is standard practice there, also stops drive offs.
I owe, I owe, it’s off to work I go…

Work - Outback
Play - Prado

Marschy

  • Guest
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2015, 07:34:08 AM »
In Adelaide do you have to pre-buy your fuel at Costco like you do in Canberra?  I was going to fill up there after Christmas, but refused to guess if I needed $100 or $120 worth of diesel to fill up...

Any idea who supplies them? Judging by the price it would have to be Mobil?

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
Yes you do, but for the money I'm saving on diesel, I can live with that. It's costing me $85 dollars to fill my 70 litre tank. Before Costco it was costing me $105.

Offline DrewXT

  • Hard Floor Camper User
  • *****
  • Posts: 1403
  • Thanked: 138 times
  • Gender: Male
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2015, 07:36:04 AM »
Don't travel to the US then, pre-pay is standard practice there, also stops drive offs.

Yeah, been there, done that... When i was living in Texas, once the guy i bought my fuel from got to know me, i could pay for what i used...


Yes you do, but for the money I'm saving on diesel, I can live with that. It's costing me $85 dollars to fill my 70 litre tank. Before Costco it was costing me $105.

That's a win in my book! 3 fills and the membership is paid for!

Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk

2013 Amarok Highline
2015 Customline Adventure Walkup

Offline Pog

  • Soft Floor Camper User
  • ****
  • Posts: 678
  • Thanked: 18 times
  • Gender: Male
  • Insert personal text here...
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2015, 07:47:08 AM »
Woolworths and coles are pieces of **** companies, ripn motorists off everywhere even when you don't use this hoax docket scheme.
Sooner its banned the better.

I dont get it.... If you feel as though its a rip off, why would you shop there. If people are stupid enough to continue to buy fuel from these outlets, that is their problem.

Smart people ignore the glossy 'discounts' and 'savings' from these companies and shop where the fuel is generally cheaper or better quality, and dont get sucked into buying over priced chocolate bars or bottles of coke that they don't actually need, just to get a discount....

2013 Toyota Prado Altitude & Challenge Outback Deluxe Offroad Camper Trailer.
MY PRADO BUILD


Offline barnray

  • "The Road to my Horizon"
  • Soft Floor Camper User
  • ****
  • Posts: 566
  • Thanked: 7 times
  • Gender: Male
  • The Start Of My Trailer
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2015, 08:27:52 AM »
G'day Wagon Man, I happen to live near it too. I am camping at Belmore River at the moment getting a bit of ocean breeze. Barnray

Offline achjimmy

  • Hard Top Camper User
  • ******
  • Posts: 3255
  • Thanked: 166 times
  • Gender: Male
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2015, 08:44:24 AM »
Titfish it's misleading conduct, and while I agree with others I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep. A bit of time and energy on going through to the ombudsman/ACCC may cause them some pain.

I did something similar with Tiger airways. Used them once had to give an email address of course and they wouldn't stop spamming me or would not take me off there mailing list when requested. Reported it followed it through and eventually the ACCC contacted me (and others) and put a case together. Result was they stopped mailing me and tiger got a fine and resultant bad press. Good result for a bit of effort.
Here for a good time, not a long time!

Jim

Offline oldmate

  • Soft Floor Camper User
  • ****
  • Posts: 496
  • Thanked: 1311 times
Re: Be careful when using fuel dockets
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2015, 08:51:11 AM »
Don't travel to the US then, pre-pay is standard practice there, also stops drive offs.


Yeah that's right, but you don't even need to guess the amount, most people pay on card anyway, you pull up, swipe your card, fill to the brim. Get your receipt, and drive off, with out even having to go into the store. Easy.
Our Blog. A work in progress
https://www.facebook.com/UltimateAdventuresBlog/