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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2014, 10:38:29 PM »
Actually my post was edited due to me calling him an inappropriate name...sorry for that but it was all pretty tounge in check.
He just annoys the bejesus out of me when he repeats himself at least twice a sentence and is condescending and patronizing between that.sure he's got a job to do but if he dosn't like criticism or people having a bit of fun at his idiosyncrasies he's in the wrong business.

Paul Keating and 75% of other politicians repeat themselves so he is no different than any of them


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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #51 on: December 15, 2014, 10:50:18 PM »
Paul Keating and 75% of other politicians repeat themselves so he is no different than any of them


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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2014, 02:46:43 AM »
All over at 0200 this morning.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-16/sydney-siege-ends-martin-place-lindt-cafe/5969162

Hope the hostages are safe. No news at the moment about them.
If the so called cleric had a firearm, how did he get it?
He is under suspicion for the murder of his wife, surely his firearms license would have been revoked?
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2014, 03:57:05 AM »
Siege is over but not a good ending. Tragically at least hostage is dead and several others are seriously injured. Luckily the gunman, an Iranian immigrant by the name of Monis, has been killed as he appears to have shot the hostages. He is the same POS who was involved with the murder of his former wife and child molestation.
He also sent letters to our soldiers and their families who had fought in Afganistan accusing them of being murderers. He was obviously a worthless piece of scum who was acting alone and has been disassociated from the Muslim community. This has been a terrible and very sad time for the hostages whom I am sure will carry scars for life from this. Our thoughts are with them.

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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2014, 05:29:35 AM »
Yep not a fantastic end, thoughts and prayers go out to all involved.

Dazzler and achjimmy were fairly accurate in the end.

A man was seen running with his hands up before a crowd of hostages following fleeing from the cafe just after 2am. A short burst of gunfire and flash grenades were heard as police stormed the building before declaring the siege over at around 2.45am.

The gunman, 50-year-old Man Haron Monis who was known to police as a self-styled preacher of Islamic state on bail for an accessory to murder charge, was also pronounced dead at hospital.
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2014, 06:13:36 AM »
Very tragic for the loss of innocent lives. Of course the "do gooders" should be happy that every chance to negotiate  with this idiot was given? Rather than take an opportunity and dispatch him to the next world when they could. They will now all be bleating about him being inspired by abbotts "team Aust" comments and basically blaming everybody else for his crimes and victimizing him.  And a real question needs to be asked why he wasn't deported over the harassment of veteran families and why he was out on bail from a serious criminal charge! 

Good to see the Muslim community as a whole has condemned him and I would have expected nothing less than that from them, this idiot and his beliefs don't represent them.

 I hope the authorities who presumably took down his poisonous Facebook page with some 14,750 likes now execute 14,750 search warrants and investigate them before this can possibly happen again? Or are we encroaching on their civil liberties?
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2014, 06:17:35 AM »
Yep, that's sad innocents got hurt, but it ended they way I expected it would.  He was going to die, weather shot by police or other means, he was going to die. He went there knowing that.
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2014, 06:32:06 AM »
Hug your Family , Honour the lost by making your Australian way of life as good as possible for all . Don't let the Bastards win 
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2014, 06:35:33 AM »
In a situation like this, why do our laws give all the power to the terrorist? A sniper should have taken him out in the first 10 minutes. They had plenty of opportunity for a clean shot.
Human rights, political correctness blah blah blah, the people who right our p1ss weak laws need to wake upto themselves. 2 innocent people are dead, 2 families have lost loved ones and many others traumatised.
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2014, 06:40:42 AM »
Hug your Family , Honour the lost by making your Australian way of life as good as possible for all . Don't let the Bastards win

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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2014, 06:45:02 AM »
He was just a nutter who should not have been out on bail or should have been deported years ago.   If the Police had killed the nutter at the start then what if there were bombs as he said and he detonated them?   What if he had his gun aimed towards one of the hostages and his gun went off and killed that hostage?  It is easy to say what should have happened after the event.  But I think we all feel like what Snapman007 Has said.
(And it is a shame someone had to bring their very strong political views into this thread.  But some people do get blinded by one sided politics. Thank you mods for editing that thread.)
Just feel for the victims.  But now we need to get on as normal as we will never be able to prevent these type of people (nutters/murderers) doing what they want.  We all have certain freedoms in this great country and do not want too many more restrictions on these.  Or do we?   Kevin

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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2014, 06:48:19 AM »
He was just a nutter who should not have been out on bail or should have been deported years ago.   If the Police had killed the nutter at the start then what if there were bombs as he said and he detonated them?   What if he had his gun aimed towards one of the hostages and his gun went off and killed that hostage?  It is easy to say what should have happened after the event.  But I think we all feel like what Snapman007 Has said.
(And it is a shame someone had to bring their very strong political views into this thread.  But some people do get blinded by one sided politics. Thank you mods for editing that thread.)
Just feel for the victims.  But now we need to get on as normal as we will never be able to prevent these type of people (nutters/murderers) doing what they want.  We all have certain freedoms in this great country and do not want too many more restrictions on these.  Or do we?   Kevin

Yeah yeah, he is not the first nutter, and won't be the last. Look at port author, Westfield in Sydney just as 2 examples. Nutters have being here years and will continue.
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2014, 06:55:13 AM »
Yeah yeah, he is not the first nutter, and won't be the last. Look at port author, Westfield in Sydney just as 2 examples. Nutters have being here years and will continue.

As achjimmy said, he's got over 14000 potentials on Facebook.
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2014, 07:16:44 AM »
RIP to the 2 innocent people killed...

**** Koshi and his show, they showed in an endless loop 4-6 people running out of the café while being "LIVE" from the scene and they made it look like there was 150 people running out of the café they played it that long..
Edit: This scene was the one.. on an endless loop in the time it took the local shop to make about 8 coffees infront of me, then mine and serve everyone
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #64 on: December 16, 2014, 07:18:11 AM »
How come people get prison time for pathetic charges and someone who stabs thier wife multiple times then sets her on fire I wandering the streets.he wasn't even under survalence aparantly as he managed to obtain a gun and committed crimes post a com place to murder.
Realy in my opinion the blame lies solely with the justice department and how yet another time bomb was out on bail
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #65 on: December 16, 2014, 07:24:22 AM »
How come people get prison time for pathetic charges and someone who stabs thier wife multiple times then sets her on fire I wandering the streets.he wasn't even under survalence aparantly as he managed to obtain a gun and committed crimes post attempted murder.
Realy in my opinion the blame lies solely with the justice department and how yet another time bomb was out on bail
Oooooooo....... I just read that stuff on him....

"A reporter at Tuesday morning's press conference posed the uncomfortable question about the Martin Place siege that will now surely become the subject of further investigation: "How was this gunman free on bail?".

Man Haron Monis, a self-styled sheikh shot dead by police in the early hours of Tuesday morning, was before the courts on two separate and serious matters: more than 40 sexual assault charges involving seven alleged victims; and as an accessory to the murder of his former partner.

He died seven years after first coming to the attention of police, when he penned poisonous letters to the family of Australian soldiers killed in the Middle East .

Monis, 50, was given bail at Penrith Local Court on December 12 last year after being charged with being an accessory before and after the fact to the 2013 murder of his former partner, mother-of-two Noleen Hasyon Pal.

His then partner, Amirah Droudis, is also charged with the murder of Ms Pal, who was stabbed multiple times in April last year and set alight in a western Sydney unit block."


Then again are people surprised anymore at what the courts do???


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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #66 on: December 16, 2014, 07:33:09 AM »
I'm never surprised at what lawyers and courts do....baffled yes but not suprised

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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2014, 07:35:47 AM »
I'm never surprised at what lawyers and courts do....baffled yes but not suprised
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2014, 07:39:32 AM »
was a bit surprised at the end firefly looked like kids going in for attack rather than trained professionals taking out a lone gunman.
imo a one shot sniper attack would be more professional and end with a better result.

and fully agree that the media feed us regurgitated dribble to no end.

one good thing i heard this morning is that judges should be held accountable for their decisions


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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2014, 07:54:30 AM »

was a bit surprised at the end firefly looked like kids going in for attack rather than trained professionals taking out a lone gunman.

 

They responded to an immediate unplanned escalation which is why it was so confusing hence so many flash bangs going off which prevented them going in quicker. You can see the cop at the door unable to enter till they stopped.

If it was planned it would have been surgical.

I thought they did ok given the circumstances.
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #70 on: December 16, 2014, 07:59:31 AM »
In a situation like this, why do our laws give all the power to the terrorist? A sniper should have taken him out in the first 10 minutes. They had plenty of opportunity for a clean shot.
Human rights, political correctness blah blah blah, the people who right our p1ss weak laws need to wake upto themselves. 2 innocent people are dead, 2 families have lost loved ones and many others traumatised.

One bullet, one shop window and all but the nut-job gunman go home safe.

(edited as I wrote it when I was very angry  :D)
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2014, 08:08:15 AM »
I can see this thread going the way of the ZD30....
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #72 on: December 16, 2014, 08:52:08 AM »

One bullet, one shop window and all but the nut-job gunman go home safe.

(edited as I wrote it when I was very angry  :D)

It's not Hollywood.

What if you miss?

What if he actually had explosives and they are rigged to a dead mans switch?

What if he had a nearby accomplice who would trigger them if he got shot?

What if he actually had a fellow bad guy in there that entered earlier sitting quietly having a coffee with an explosive vest on waiting for his mate to be shot? 

Until you have those answers you can only react to the situation as it evolves.


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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #73 on: December 16, 2014, 08:53:38 AM »
I can see this thread going the way of the ZD30....

As in....... Nothing positive to say about it, but goes down hill really fast?
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Re: Hostage drama happening now in Martin Place Sydney
« Reply #74 on: December 16, 2014, 09:06:12 AM »
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