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Tyres bloody tyres
« on: December 05, 2014, 04:21:42 PM »
Has anyone have or had Bridgestone MT 674s on their van or C/T, thinking of a set for the van. On special Bob Jane 245/75R16 $219 just a little bit worried about the MT pattern especially on wet bitumen. Maybe the AT 679 also.
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2014, 04:28:07 PM »
I have BFG mud's on my caravan, never been a problem. Mate of mine runs the same on his.

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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2014, 04:30:14 PM »
Yeah MTs on a van or CT look great, but unless they are iof a heavier construction, IMO no great improvement over an AT for example, no great gain as they don't drive or steer. Either way they will handle the road well enough under tow.

In ten years of doing tyre repairs in the shop I never saw rocks or sticks differentiate much between MT or AT  ;D.

The 679 look good to me, are they cheaper?

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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2014, 04:56:34 PM »
Yeah MTs on a van or CT look great, but unless they are iof a heavier construction, IMO no great improvement over an AT for example, no great gain as they don't drive or steer. Either way they will handle the road well enough under tow.

In ten years of doing tyre repairs in the shop I never saw rocks or sticks differentiate much between MT or AT  ;D.

The 679 look good to me, are they cheaper?

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The 679s are $269 against $219 and only come in a 245/70R16 or 265/70R16 so the 674s might be the go.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2014, 04:58:27 PM »
I have BFG mud's on my caravan, never been a problem. Mate of mine runs the same on his.

Thanks HJ, going to be doing the GRR again next year so  think they could be the go.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2014, 05:03:10 PM »
One question- Why? Why run muddies on a trailer?
I did for a while as I had two sets of tyres for Cruiser, BFG Muddies on steelies and Mickey Thomson AT 4 ribs on Alloys and I would swap around to suit what I need on vehicle..
But there was no advantage for muddies on a trailer.
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2014, 05:44:06 PM »
For that price differential I would have no hesitation in going MT.

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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2014, 05:52:02 PM »
Thanks HJ, going to be doing the GRR again next year so  think they could be the go.


Have a read of this.

http://www.beadelltours.com.au/tyre_information.html

As said, I have seen both MT and AT fractured by stone early in their life. It's a bit of a raffle really.

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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2014, 06:50:04 PM »
One question- Why? Why run muddies on a trailer?
I did for a while as I had two sets of tyres for Cruiser, BFG Muddies on steelies and Mickey Thomson AT 4 ribs on Alloys and I would swap around to suit what I need on vehicle..
But there was no advantage for muddies on a trailer.
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If your get caught in the mud then the MTs will clear much quicker than the ATs, so then I am not running on slicks. Last year we did the GRR in May and it rained from the west up until after Ellenbrae, we had the C/T with Mickey ATZ 4 rib which are MTs and were bloody great.
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2014, 08:18:45 PM »
One question- Why? Why run muddies on a trailer?
I did for a while as I had two sets of tyres for Cruiser, BFG Muddies on steelies and Mickey Thomson AT 4 ribs on Alloys and I would swap around to suit what I need on vehicle..
But there was no advantage for muddies on a trailer.
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Yep agreed. Just need a good at with good side wall construction for trailer. For mud to clear from the lugs to stop them from clogging, it needs drive. A caravan or camper does not have drive last time I looked.
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2014, 08:51:53 PM »
The trailer tyres might not drive, BUT they do help stop.

When going down a slippery mud slope, you want all the grip you can find if you don't want the trailer to overtake you.

Only downside to MT's from my point of view:
Higher purchase cost..... Not enough to worry about
Noise.... Who cares on the trailer. I run them on the car anyway.
Higher fuel consumtion... In my experience makes no difference
Less grip in the wet on bitumen... Has never worried me. I would be more worried about the 4wd, but that has never worried me either, just drive to the conditions.

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Re: Tyres bloody tyres
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2014, 09:10:02 PM »
Yep agreed. Just need a good at with good side wall construction for trailer. For mud to clear from the lugs to stop them from clogging, it needs drive. A caravan or camper does not have drive last time I looked.
Well how come my C/T MTs never clogged up in the muddiest conditions on the GRR, it s a moving thing and there for has the ability to get rid of the mud because of the tread pattern. Anyway I believe they will do the job that I need them to do, thanks for your input.
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Re: Tyres bloody tyres
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2014, 09:11:31 PM »
Yep agreed. Just need a good at with good side wall construction for trailer. For mud to clear from the lugs to stop them from clogging, it needs drive. A caravan or camper does not have drive last time I looked.
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2014, 09:16:35 PM »
The trailer tyres might not drive, BUT they do help stop.

When going down a slippery mud slope, you want all the grip you can find if you don't want the trailer to overtake you.

Only downside to MT's from my point of view:
Higher purchase cost..... Not enough to worry about
Noise.... Who cares on the trailer. I run them on the car anyway.
Higher fuel consumtion... In my experience makes no difference
Less grip in the wet on bitumen... Has never worried me. I would be more worried about the 4wd, but that has never worried me either, just drive to the conditions.

While I agree about the grip.. Have a think about it.  Steep muddy slope, going down hill, tyres started to cake with sticky mud and turning into slicks, how do you clear the mud??

Doesn't matter what tyre you have on drive or or not, if your doing 5km an hour down a slippery slop with stick mud, your tyres will cake and turn into slicks, like a giant snowball. 


Your right though, there is no disadvantage to using muddies apart from what you said, but their is no advantage either IMHO.
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Re: Tyres bloody tyres
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2014, 09:21:04 PM »
Well how come my C/T MTs never clogged up in the muddiest conditions on the GRR, it s a moving thing and there for has the ability to get rid of the mud because of the tread pattern. Anyway I believe they will do the job that I need them to do, thanks for your input.
I guess you were driving at a speed that enabled them to clear. Not rocket science. And not all mud clog tyres.

Yes they will do the job you need them too.

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Re: Tyres bloody tyres
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2014, 09:58:35 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2014, 09:59:51 PM »
Pmsl..  Look tough also
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2014, 07:14:38 AM »

Pmsl..  Look tough also
Especially if you add snow chains to them.
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