Light bars no longer required to be in pairs.

[rags]

Did you read fujis link?

yes I did read it and spend part of my working days reading, reviewing or amending policy type documents [ in another field ]and find that any document needs to be read carefully, I  copied the relevant  part of the posted link document below
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Front fog lights are designed to better illuminate the road in fog, snowfall, rainstorms or dust clouds. They can be recognised by the low, narrow vertical pattern (and wide lateral spread) of light emitted.

Road Rule 217 states that drivers must not use front or rear fog lights unless driving in fog or other hazardous weather conditions that cause reduced visibility. They must be switched on separate from the main beam (high beam) and dipped beam (passing) headlights.

Fog lights should only be used in hazardous weather conditions. Drivers should familiarise themselves with the dashboard warning symbols so that they do not inadvertently switch these lights on.
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As stated above the fog lights must be switched separate to the main beam ,which is how they are done on the 5 cars that reside in my drive ,2 mazdas ,1 Suzuki,1 Toyota and a ford. These cars all left the factory with factory fitted fogs and all can be turned on inconjunction with any other light beam but also can be used with out the main headlights on [which I originally incorrectly said was not possible]. The above ADR 217 only says that need to be switched separately from the main beams, however it does not say that the fogs need to function separately from the main beam or cannot be used in conjunction to the main lights. Which is how vehicle manufacturers fit the fog lights in compliance to the ADR. If it was to infer that the fogs could only work or be used without the main lights then this would have been included in the prescriptive text and you would also find then that the cars would function that way ex factory. Yet it only says that they should be used in hazardous conditions [which is where a previous post was pointing out that the "bogan" don't follow this rule and drive round on the sunniest of days with the fogs on]. Yet the ADR are then quite specific with high beam driving lights in that they should only function in conjunction with the high beam [or main beam as it is reference]

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Driving lights are designed to illuminate the road over a long distance for example country areas. They must be wired such that they only switch on with the main beam (high beam) head light. They emit the same lighting pattern as a main beam and are used as a supplementary light.
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regards Rags

[Mace]

I agree with all you say and note you corrected your error.

I work in a similar role.

 

[fuji]

I said I was going to put post it!

Sorry BJ, I didn't realise you were going to post it.
Okay everybody my apologies to Jonesy as he originally found this article and emailed it to me and I posted it. My bad.
Driving with fog lights on is not on my priority booking list. They will get booked if the fog lights are blinding to other road users.

[Mace]

Don't worry pal, would have ended up the same!

 

[fuji]

 

[#jonesy]

To explain fog lights what the link shows is a simplified explanation of the ADR (riveting read)

Basically they need to be switched independently of the headlights. So when you switch headlights hi,low or off it doesn't effect the fog lights and vice versa.

The other requirements is that when the fog lights are on the park, tail and number plate lights come on. So the fog lights will turn off when the lights are fully turned off.

The ones I hate are the rear fogs because they overpower the brake lights.

Fuji no worries I did a quick search before starting a thread in the technical section before I saw this one.

[Mace]

To explain fog lights what the link shows is a simplified explanation of the ADR (riveting read)

Basically they need to be switched independently of the headlights. So when you switch headlights hi,low or off it doesn't effect the fog lights and vice versa.

Agree.

But when I was young the etiquette was that if you had fog lights on you turned all others other than parking lights off becoz the conditions you were  driving in was usually low speed in country gravel,roads.

That's it, I'm out!

 

[achjimmy]

Agree.

But when I was young the etiquette was that if you had fog lights on you turned all others other than parking lights off becoz the conditions you were  driving in was usually low speed in country gravel,roads.

That's it, I'm out!

 

Mace is correct. I still remember the rotary switch on an old English car my folks had. It was labelled OSHF which was off, side lights, head lights, fog lights.   When you spun around to fog it turn the heads off.   The belief in Europe was that the headlights reflect and blind you in fog and you only need the lower YELLOW fog light

[Snow]

Straight from the NSW RMS website; http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/road-rules/lights-and-horns.html

"Front and rear fog lights must only be used in fog or rain, or when conditions such as smoke and dust limit your vision. It is a legal requirement that once conditions improve and you can see more clearly, the front and rear fog lights are switched off."

 

[WilSurf]

The rules in Holland regarding the fog lights are that they can only be used when visibility is less then 200 meters. Rear fog light less then 50 meters and NOT in the rain.

[briann532]

Straight from the NSW RMS website; http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/safety-rules/road-rules/lights-and-horns.html

"Front and rear fog lights must only be used in fog or rain, or when conditions such as smoke and dust limit your vision. It is a legal requirement that once conditions improve and you can see more clearly, the front and rear fog lights are switched off."

 

Snow.

What happens if they are labelled as "driving" lights???

I too am sick of the w@nkers who blind you with upgraded lights, fog lights and driving lights aimed badly in your face, when it is as clear as day with no visibility issues.
Its no different to me wearing a roofers harness while walking around a shopping centre on flat ground. You just look like a plonker and pee people off.
Same old same old. Inconsiderate twats not considering others.

And while I'm on the rant, FFS don't "P" platers know its illegal to put nice blue leds on the front of your car?
 

[Snow]

Snow.

What happens if they are labelled as "driving" lights???

Labelled by who? Those that would seek to duck the reality that it is illegal to use them for other than their legal intended use.

Objective evidence is that the intended use and the name of the lights is described by the manufacturer in the vehicle owners manual.

IMO, any other descriptors for factory fitted fog lights are irrelevant.

[fuji]

If it ain't foggy or persisting down with rain, leave the bloody things off.

[Bad Scott]

If I remember correctly. Its a $300 fine having fog lights on, when road conditions are fine. This was a couple years ago by the local  in Horsham.