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Light bars no longer required to be in pairs.
« on: December 02, 2014, 03:27:28 PM »
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Re: Light bars no longer required to be in pairs.
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2014, 03:48:29 PM »
Good info.


So when are you guys gonna start busting those who run around with fog lights on all day or at night when conditions are fine, not raining and foggy?  8)

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Re: Light bars no longer required to be in pairs.
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2014, 03:50:31 PM »
Is that telling me that you can turn on high beam in a built up area?

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Re: Light bars no longer required to be in pairs.
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2014, 03:53:29 PM »
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Re: Light bars no longer required to be in pairs.
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2014, 03:56:15 PM »
As Victoria’s in-service vehicle standards mirror the Australian Design Rule requirements this decision means that LED light bars can be fitted to vehicles in Victoria.  Constraints remain on the fitment of LED light bars, so any LED light bar that is fitted must be installed in alignment with the following requirements:

The lamps should, as far as is possible, be installed symmetrically in pairs to the front of the vehicle.

If lamps are not fitted as pairs (e.g. one, three etc), they must be fitted to the front of the vehicle, symmetrically about the centre.

A maximum of four driving lamps (including LED light bars) can be fitted to a vehicle in addition to the vehicle’s main beam headlamps.

The lamp/s must be installed in a way that the light produced does not cause the driver of the vehicle discomfort either directly or by reflection.

The lamp/s must only come on when the main-beam (high beam) headlamps are used, and must automatically turn off when the main-beam headlamps are turned off.

The lamps must not obstruct the driver’s view of the road.



So basically it is now legitimizing what most Vic pol have been enforcing? When I was pulled over for the lights on the patrol, all he stated about the lights on the roof was that I had FAR too many lights forward facing lol.
Nothing stated as such about the fact they were on the roof?

Great to know Vicroads have finally caught up though!  :cup: Thanks for sharing mate, I am sure many appreciate it  ;D

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Re: Light bars no longer required to be in pairs.
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2014, 04:11:22 PM »
So when are you guys gonna start busting those who run around with fog lights on all day or at night when conditions are fine, not raining and foggy?  8)


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Re: Light bars no longer required to be in pairs.
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2014, 05:28:49 PM »
Good info.


So when are you guys gonna start busting those who run around with fog lights on all day or at night when conditions are fine, not raining and foggy?  8)

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Why ???
What does it matter? Its not like fog lights will blind you

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Re: Light bars no longer required to be in pairs.
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2014, 05:35:18 PM »
Why ???
What does it matter? Its not like fog lights will blind you

I agree. They never bother me either. I've never understood the fuss.

(Mine are off, btw)
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2014, 05:51:08 PM »
Why ???
What does it matter? Its not like fog lights will blind you

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Becoz half the bogans in Vic drive around with both their fog lights and headlights on low beam on, which is not what they are supposed to do. Fog lights should only be operated by themselves, with no headlight showing,  And, half the fog lights cum pseudo driving lights fitted to jap vehicles are exceedingly bright.

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Re: Light bars no longer required to be in pairs.
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2014, 05:52:14 PM »
I agree. They never bother me either. I've never understood the fuss.

(Mine are off, btw)

And you are a bit higher than me when I drive the sedan!

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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2014, 05:56:27 PM »
Becoz half the bogans in Vic drive around with both their fog lights and headlights on low beam on, which is not what they are supposed to do. Fog lights should only be operated by themselves, with no headlight showing,  And, half the fog lights cum pseudo driving lights fitted to jap vehicles are exceedingly bright.

 >:(
Again I'm not sure why it matters???
If at night they have to have headlights on anyway & if at daytime then how is it any different to the DRL's a lot of cars have.
I thought there was a road safety campaign encouraging people to have lights on during day, there is up here anyway

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Re: Light bars no longer required to be in pairs.
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2014, 06:08:00 PM »
Becoz half the bogans in Vic drive around with both their fog lights and headlights on low beam on, which is not what they are supposed to do. Fog lights should only be operated by themselves, with no headlight showing,   

 >:(

Fog lights can only be used with the headlights on, and this is how every car,4wd are fitted and wired when leaving the factory ,they need the headlights turned on to function and won't work without the headlights on be that parkers or low beam or high beam.

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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2014, 06:15:00 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2014, 06:25:22 PM »
Fog lights can only be used with the headlights on, and this is how every car,4wd are fitted and wired when leaving the factory ,they need the headlights turned on to function and won't work without the headlights on be that parkers or low beam or high beam.

Did you read fujis link?
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2014, 06:34:15 PM »
Waiting for Xmas orders now  ;D

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Re: Light bars no longer required to be in pairs.
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2014, 06:35:46 PM »
And you are a bit higher than me when I drive the sedan!

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Nah, doesn't matter what car I'm in Al.

Fog lights are (supposed to be) designed to cut under the fog.
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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2014, 06:39:28 PM »
Did you read fujis link?

If you did, you will see it said fogs must operate independently of dipped and high beam.

My last Holden, a 2004 SS had the fog light option. They operated once the switch was set to park. They also remained on if the beam was set to both dip or high.

I frankly got sick of bogans  leaving them on, particularly at dusk on country roads. When you get to 60 and your eyesight capacity deminishes it may become apparent why they should only be used when it's foggy!
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« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2014, 06:40:36 PM »
Nah, doesn't matter what car I'm in Al.

Fog lights are (supposed to be) designed to cut under the fog.

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But I'm older than you!

And half the cars out there have white fog lights, not yellow!
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« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2014, 06:41:16 PM »
Fog lights can only be used with the headlights on, and this is how every car,4wd are fitted and wired when leaving the factory ,they need the headlights turned on to function and won't work without the headlights on be that parkers or low beam or high beam.
They can be turned on without using the headlights on my 150 ?
Not that I use them
Detest the overuse of the things myself????
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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2014, 06:42:36 PM »
And that's my rant.

No worries down here tho, havnt had a problem with all the nice tassie drivers, they are very considerate once you have a car with tassie plates. It's the Vic ones they give grief!

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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2014, 06:47:49 PM »
And that's my rant......

I reckon that's the guts of it......it's become a rant (not directed at you specifically, Al).

Apart from the legalities, they really don't create that big an issue....IMHO.

....and mine are always off.... ;D
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2014, 06:56:46 PM »
Germany has it right.

http://www.euroadlegal.co.uk/country/germany.html

Only to be used at speeds under 50kph when conditions require.

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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2014, 07:03:05 PM »
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The lamp/s must only come on when the main-beam (high beam) headlamps are used, and must automatically turn off when the main-beam headlamps are turned off.
........

Nothing about a separate isolation switch?
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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2014, 07:05:31 PM »
Germany has it right.

http://www.euroadlegal.co.uk/country/germany.html

Only to be used at speeds under 50kph when conditions require.

And where's Fuji! Trust him to post and run!

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Unless I've missed something Al, the German regs only say when fog lights must be used, not when they must not.
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« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2014, 07:15:07 PM »
Unless I've missed something Al, the German regs only say when fog lights must be used, not when they must not.
It's all in the interpretation pal, we need a craut Fuji as a member to answer that one!

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