Buying car for retiring father Triton Vs Navara D22

[Stylemaster70]

I like the look of the new ones. Has a prado look at the front. I must have a good triton as so far so good. No surging, power loss etc. Sure it's not as comfy or powerful as the Mrs. Prado Grande but bang for buck they are hard to beat. Suspension is crap though and you need to put spacers under the seats to make them half decent.

I looked at all the big name dual cabs a few months back when I purchased mine and what it came down to was warranty and the fact that it had the most room in the back for the kids.....and $$$ of course. The Mazdas are growing on me too. They look pretty schmick with all the ARB gear.

[Silvo]

The dicky idle and loss of power due to carbon build up?  God that must have cost them some $$

yes, and one of them has had a heap of other issues.. can't recall what they were there has been so many..

[Heggs]

I have both 2013 nissan for work base model and 2013 triton glxr for the missus and weekend getaways. Both have similar milage around the 50k mark. To be honest both are very good i prefer driving the trition, but it has all the creature comforts whereas the nissan is very basic. Both never given any problems. The triton is easier to park as it is not as wide. But imho they are both good


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

[pmturnbull]

If you can get both for same price the triton will win with, traction control (which appears to work well), esp, more airbags and a better 4 star safety rating. The chances of survial or avoiding a accident in the triton will be increased hugely. Also triton has a great back seat the narvara has the worst and the smallest cabin. But if your father is a smoker go the narvara as it has an ash tray still lol. I have seen tritons in the $26990 range but may be a 2013. your test drive will tell you which way to go.

[Burnsy]

But if your father is a smoker go the narvara as it has an ash tray still lol.

Smokers must be different over your way, over here they don't like to dirty or stink up their own new cars so toss the butts out the window

[Grant209]

Have a Nov 2011 build D22 Navara from new, 115k's on the clock with no warranty claims.

Had a SsangYong Musso 4WD Ute before the D22, loved the Musso to death literally, so purchase of a new ute was not planned, so price was a very big factor.

The Manhindra was priced right, had all the comfort features and cruise control as standard, good headroom and rear seat leg room, only issue I had was the availability of assessories such as snorkle and Canopy, so went with the D22 and agreed it is somewhat crampt in cabin space unlike the Musso and Mahindra and other Dual Cap Ute's, especially if you have people sitting in the back like my 6" son on long trips.

I can't fault the D22. Its been a solid little ute and the only comfort feture I had added has been cruise control for those long trips, which for me are usually over 600klm in a day, which before the cruise control I was finding my right leg cramping up.

Main assessories I have added:
Bullbar/winch.
Canopy/roof rack system.
New Audio/GPS Navigation System.
UHF CB, Amateur VHF/UHF Radio, Amateur HF/VHF/UHF Radio, Trunk Radio Scanner.
Diesel Performance Module.
Cruise control
Jayco Dove Outback Camper

[cyberess]

<snip>
The Manhindra was priced right, had all the comfort features and cruise control as standard, good headroom and rear seat leg room, only issue I had was the availability of assessories such as snorkle and Canopy,
<snip>

I am quite surprised that you had difficulty with that accessories for the Mahindra  --  When I ordered my Mahindra I just about ordered it with everything included  -- snorkel, bullbar etc etc.

Congratulations your D22 sounds like a nice ute  -- let hope we will see some photos/stories in the "My 4WD" section of My Swag.

Cheers

[Grant209]

I am quite surprised that you had difficulty with that accessories for the Mahindra  --  When I ordered my Mahindra I just about ordered it with everything included  -- snorkel, bullbar etc etc.

Congratulations your D22 sounds like a nice ute  -- let hope we will see some photos/stories in the "My 4WD" section of My Swag.

Cheers

Cyberess,

In 2011 the bullbars at the time were not an issue, they were made by Freedom Off-road at St Marys NSW for Mahindra and a couple of variants were available.

The snorkle and canopy were a concern. There seemed to be no local Australian manufacturer for the canopy, it was being manufactured in Malaysia or similar and none available to inspect to see the quality.

Snorkel wise, there was no purposely made snorkel available at the time I was told. The local dealership said they had heard that a snorkle for the Toyota FJ Cruiser could be modified and used.

Now like many SsangYong owners have experienced, it could just have been the lack of product knowledge by the Mahindra salesman, an issue that was a common complaint on the SsangYong Owners Forum, either way it was a swaying factor for me.

[cyberess]

The snorkels for the Mahindra utes are supplied my Mahindra themselves -- as it's what they use for their mine spec utes, it should not have been a issue. For the canopy, even on the Nissan D22 consider a tray setup with a nice gull wing canopy -- it's certainly better as far as dust sealing, access and security goes.  Well that's my opinion anyway

Certainly sounds like your local Mahindra dealer was not interested in selling you a vehicle.

 

[jeeps]

I prefer the tritons, they feel better to drive than the navaras. It you're going to lift them you'll get more lift from a triton than a navara but beware that some tritons (i don't think the new ones have it anymore) have the 2 piece tailshaft which will give vibes unless you spend $500 to modify it. The TJM airtek snorkel for the tritons are the best looking snorkel on the market, they look awesome.

With a Beaudesert exhaust and chip the navara D40's are rocket ships.

cheers

[Jasman]

Just bought a Triton for work, compared it the Nissan but it was an easy win to the Triton based on passenger leg room and the fact that you can get a Triton in auto.  The GLX+ Deisel Auto I got came standard with with wheels, sidesteps, Bluetooth and Cruise for just under $31k. 

With the 5yr warranty/roadside assistance I don't reckon you go wrong.

[har05l]

Triton 

My 2010 MN has just over 145k km's on the clock and sure it's had its problems but is a fantastic allrounder

The little things such as carbon build up and turbo lag can be gotten around 

[jetcrew]

well putting aside my prev I tried to get Dad into a triton dealership but he has his heart set on the D22.

So off to start the haggle I see them for 27K right now then I need towbar, bullbar ,canopy.

will update the results

thanks all for taking the time to reply..at 64 this will the first new car he has ever owned.

Jet

[Bird]

well putting aside my prev I tried to get Dad into a triton dealership but he has his heart set on the D22.

So off to start the haggle I see them for 27K right now then I need towbar, bullbar ,canopy.

will update the results

thanks all for taking the time to reply..at 64 this will the first new car he has ever owned.

Jet

go an ex-demo, or low klm used much cheaper

[jetcrew]

just doing research for him and I note the D23 is due for release in the coming months...hmmmmm

[Cage]

I'm also retired and did this exact same exercise twelve months ago.

I drove all the contenders, except the Triton, and rather liked the D-Max, but it was beyond my budget. I was about to put my money down for the D22 when I thought that I should really have a look at the Triton. I am so pleased that I did.

I did the forum thing, and while they both have their admirers and detractors, the Triton seemed like a much better thought of option. The main gripe with the Triton seemed to be the carbon build up issue in the manifold. A lot of owners fitted catch-cans although this 'fix' has now been superseded by a plug-in module that seems to do the job.

Another issue was overheating in the early MN's, seemingly due to lack of quality control on the production line. MMA have stood by affected owners and are replacing the engines in those affected vehicles.

For me, the decision ultimately came down to comfort and driveability. IMHO, the Triton was head and shoulders above the D22. For starters I thought that the D22 was one of the most uncomfortable vehicles I had ever sat in.

I finished up getting a Triton GLX+ model, and twelve months and twelve thousand K's on, I have no regrets whatsoever.

I guess it all comes down to weighing up the various pros and cons and going with what feels the best when you put your bum on the seat.

Good  luck in helping your Dad with his decision.

[jetcrew]

Update..

dad and I drove the 2 contenders yesterday... he pulled the pin on a d22 Navara. I was bloody impressed with the little thing and cant belive I have never driven one before.

I was worried about him being in a manual but the forgiving clutch and some good ratios make the car quite an effortless drive.

Got the usal pressure sell from the dealer and in the end I went all cranky on him when he called me a liar when I said I had seen them advertised at $26,990 drive away ..and pulled out all his books and calculator ect to prove it was impossible.

Then told my father he needed to understand how it works as it is his first new car he does not know the industry.  I poliety told him to pull his head in..

I tried to support my local dealership but they were being idiots about the price so hunted down the dealership that was advertised on car sales and bought the car over the phone $1400 cheaper than my local and they are 5 mins from dads work.

So calling a spade a spade

  to Nissan at wynnum
  to nissan at Morayfield

Guy even went as far to say that he feeds his kids by selling cars to make money not selling them at a loss. And wanted me to name the other dealership so he could lodge a formal complaint with Nissan Head office as they are not allowed to sell below $27,990 so he says.

Got the car factory bullbar and towbar with 12mth reg ..$29,008  dad is very pleased.

Thanks for all the replies .

jet

[raider]

well done . great choice. Navaras are the perfect car for granddad's 

[bruce93]

Update..

dad and I drove the 2 contenders yesterday... he pulled the pin on a d22 Navara. I was bloody impressed with the little thing and cant belive I have never driven one before.

Hey Jet. Glad to hear your dad is happy with his decision.

Can I ask why the D22 one over the Triton? Only asking as I hope to buy a dual cab ute this year or next year and so far the Triton is at the top of my list so interested to see why the D22 was his preferred choice.

Bruce

[jetcrew]

Hey Jet. Glad to hear your dad is happy with his decision.

Can I ask why the D22 one over the Triton? Only asking as I hope to buy a dual cab ute this year or next year and so far the Triton is at the top of my list so interested to see why the D22 was his preferred choice.

Bruce

the triton surged its way up and down the highway, you could feel the engine hunting for a rev range (auto ) dad and I both hated it ..the navara delivered a smooth power and tourque curve and the turbo did not exhibit the lag of the triton..

The navara felt more at home on the road ...

jet

[Wagon Man]

I know what your talking about Theo, remember my Altitude .

My local Toyota dealer requested that I paid an extra $7k to by locally.

I now smirk at him every time I take in  for it service,

 as he said "there no way I could get one for that price".