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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2014, 05:44:19 PM »
, and an i30.
 



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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2014, 06:37:08 PM »
I'd go 3 cars,  but I was lucky the wife likes the Prado do got away with  2, but with the running costs of my commute I got a nissan micra, and was getting a craptiva or asx for the wife, with the 3 rd vehicle being camping/ towing / beach 4 wd.    Only increased costs would of been about $2 k year for insurance rego and maintenance.  But saved around half of that on cheaper running costs. Would still had been out of pocket but not by much,  ( I went from a falcon wagon to the micra)  that way your tourer doesn't do bulk k's etc. 
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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2014, 06:41:06 PM »

I'm confident that many will have an opinion and I'm happy to hear from you, but I'm also keen to hear from other swaggers who might find themselves in a similar predicament to mine.

I'm coming to the conclusion that the most viable solution is for swmbo and I to run 3 different cars/trucks/4WD.  Is 3 cars becoming a new norm?

1 x swmbo (her personal taste, smaller style, practicality). She's stamped her fist and said, "I don't want a large 4WD as my daily run about".  We now own her car, it's 4yo and has 50,000km's on the clock, so only now costing us the annual runnings costs of rego, insurance, maintenance and fuel etc. May as we'll keep it.

1 x me for work (can lease as part of my package and claim tax advantages). This I now realise may only ever be a short term vehicle, somewhat like having a company car that you turn over every few years. Not something I would add $000's of aftermarket accessories to.

1 x me/swmbo for weekend and long range touring. The 4WD.

I originally thought that I could have combined 2 and 3 as one, but the leasing/tax advantages really only applies to newer vehicles, and apart from maybe a 200series, (which I could just stretch the budget for), I'm struggling to find a new long range tourer that can tick all the boxes. Plus I work in the CBD at least 3 days per week and it can be a challenge to get a large 4WD into many CBD car parks.

So the other thought process is that I lease a everyday somewhat standard car for work, and buy a good 2nd hand 4WD as the long range tourer, possibly even only need to be a 2door ute style 4wd.

Now I'm thinking some of you are thinking 'poor you', 3 cars! 

But I come back to my original statement, looking to hear from other's who might also be in this situation.  Particularly in our case where the kids are grown and I'm not paying hundreds and thousands in school fees, and the work car is really just a company car.

Which 4WD have you set up, or what have you done?

As you know.
We run 3 vehicles.
A patrol. - toy/ tourer... That will go almost anywhere.
My work car.. Middle ground... Challenger... With a few toys.. With a few more.. Could be a top tourer.. But can't be "hardcore"... It's gotta work on Monday... (Still good enough to take up the beach etc...)
And the misuses has her shopping trolley.... Corolla that she loves.
Truth is.. If I didn't want to go "serious off road" I don't need the Troll.
The challenger still has lift/ bar/ tyres/ lights/ a few other goodies.
I could have bought a dearer 4wd as a daily than the Challenger ..  But I also budgeted during the company car period for one or twenty accessories.
Maybe instead of a 200 series. You could look at a Prado.. Use the extra coin to deck it out. Same outlay... More toys. :)
There is no right answer. It depends what you want to do in your vehicles.
Me personally. I see a need for about 10-22 extra vehicles. But SWMBO seemed to think my need for a full on comp truck and a sports car and a limo and a hovercraft and a quad and a motor bike are just plain "male bovine naturally processed hay".
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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2014, 06:45:00 PM »
Ps.. Little trap for owning 2 4wds that I have recently discovered.
If you upgrade one.. You tend to accidentally  upgrade both....
Ie..   Looking at electronics brake controllers for the Challenger... Thinking... The Troll needs that too....
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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2014, 06:56:11 PM »
Ps.. Little trap for owning 2 4wds that I have recently discovered.
If you upgrade one.. You tend to accidentally  upgrade both....
Ie..   Looking at electronics brake controllers for the Challenger... Thinking... The Troll needs that too....
:)
fathom, I think you've hit one of my nails on it's head. 'It needs to be work presentable by 7am on Monday mornings'. Bit hard to do if you've been out for the weekend, and potentially able to go out every second.

Thnx All for your feedback, it all helps.

The other nail I need to hit is  the 'soft off road or hard off road?'. I live within 20minutes of the start of the Vic High Country and you can need a winch or snap strap within view of my back door, therefore a soft roader just won't cut it even for a Sunday drive.

SJI, thnx for the offer, but your rims won't fit. Might be able to use as a hose holder tho:-)
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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2014, 07:23:02 PM »
They are a great choice.

Yeah, a great little run around, my wife loves it.

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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2014, 07:53:18 PM »
we were in the same boat , the wife needed a new car to get around and as a kids taxi.so I offered to sell my 105 series petrol cruiser  :'( and get a prado or something similar and I would drive her old car for work (vt wagon on gas). NO DEAL it had to be another commodore wagon as I don't do the shopping ect ect ect I wouldn't know what she needed. so now we have three cars including a newish ve sv6 wagon, the cruiser now only gets used every now and then when needed but the fuel saving by using the vt every day has gone some way on paying for the rego and insurance

and also when I had a little mechanical trouble with the vt the cruiser was there to jump into and not be late to work

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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2014, 08:03:21 PM »
Go the three, you know you want to!

We have three 4X4's
Prado for the mrs daily car and tows horse float
Landcruiser is our 'tourer', tows boat and any heavy duty towing that needs to be done.
Hilux is the 'wheelbarrow' and I use it to transport my quad on shooting trips.

Would be nice to go back to two, but three works.


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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2014, 08:05:08 PM »
Quote from: scarps
The other nail I need to hit is  the 'soft off road or hard off road?'
You've already got one softroader.. why not have 2???
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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2014, 08:08:47 PM »
You've already got one softroader.. why not have 2???
thinking that one needs to be upgraded, nah, the lease is nearly up.

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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2014, 08:24:24 PM »
Purchase the jeep at end if lease & then go buy a "real 4wd" like a Toyota :)

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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2014, 08:30:13 PM »
Purchase the jeep at end if lease & then go buy a "real 4wd" like a Toyota :)

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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2014, 08:33:42 PM »
Knowing the OP, he should get a Unimog!
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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2014, 08:42:55 PM »
Knowing the OP, he should get a Unimog!
oh that's right, forgot you've seen what the Jeep can do:-)

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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2014, 08:49:19 PM »
oh that's right, forgot you've seen what the Jeep can do:-)

I know it has hill descent control, just like Range Rovers!
SWMBO reminds me of a Prodigy song....
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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2014, 08:52:43 PM »
I know it has hill descent control, just like Range Rovers!
and a passenger ejector seat

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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2014, 08:56:58 PM »
and a passenger ejector seat

Actually a driver rejection seat, think the DMax has one of them too!
SWMBO reminds me of a Prodigy song....
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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2014, 06:14:00 AM »
Go the three, you know you want to!

We have three 4X4's
Prado for the mrs daily car and tows horse float
Landcruiser is our 'tourer', tows boat and any heavy duty towing that needs to be done.
Hilux is the 'wheelbarrow' and I use it to transport my quad on shooting trips.

Would be nice to go back to two, but three works.
thnx Homer_Jay. Sounds like where I'm at.

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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2014, 11:29:14 AM »
We have 3 cars too. Two Corollas (1994 and 1997) and the 80 series cruiser.

The corollas are our runabouts and the cruiser is for 4WDing/touring.

This is much cheaper than using the 80 to drive to work and back.

One of the biggest costs of owning a car is the depreciation, which is where a reliable, older vehicle really shines. The corolla's barely depreciate every year, and they are very economical too.

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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2014, 09:06:34 PM »
We have 3 cars too. Two Corollas (1994 and 1997) and the 80 series cruiser.

The corollas are our runabouts and the cruiser is for 4WDing/touring.

This is much cheaper than using the 80 to drive to work and back.

One of the biggest costs of owning a car is the depreciation, which is where a reliable, older vehicle really shines. The corolla's barely depreciate every year, and they are very economical too.

Aaron
Thnx Aaron, think I'm agreeing with you on all counts.

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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2014, 06:16:07 PM »
Hhmm, going to look at a 200 next week. If only Nissan did a Diesel!

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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2014, 06:27:05 PM »
If you want a no pressure look over one and a drive,we are only down the road.
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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2014, 06:28:29 PM »
Hhmm, going to look at a 200 next week. If only Nissan did a Diesel!

Ba ba ba

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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #48 on: August 26, 2014, 06:29:46 PM »
If you want a no pressure look over one and a drive,we are only down the road.
thnx Matt, chat soon.

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Re: A serious which 4WD question?
« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2014, 06:31:03 PM »
Ba ba ba

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well it would be nice to have another option:)