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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2015, 05:13:55 PM »
Quote from: stabicraft on October 16, 2015, 04:28:08 PM
Lets not get into the "Real 4WD vs the Fake 4WD" because its all about the purpose of the vehicle, which is to tow.
Besides, an X Trail, with a few thou spent on it could match the big boys.

Well a Ford Falcon can tow -
http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-reviews/top-10-vehicles-for-towing-12094
and a Suzuki Jimny might thrash the big boys solo in certain rough stuff without a few thou spent on it so where does that leave us?
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2015, 08:58:23 PM »
Quote from: oldmate on August 20, 2014, 11:04:59 AM
Yeah but it's been covered before, and I've seen plenty of real 4wds get stuck on the beach or going up a grassy slippery hill, so why does it matter?

Well said...........
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #52 on: October 17, 2015, 03:47:38 PM »
ive got a suzuki grand vitara and i consider it a 4wd as it has a lever operating transfer case, and a proper low range. to me, if it doesnt have low range and a proper transfer case, then it isnt a 4wd its a big car. its also the same reason we looked at the suzuki. as its the only small 4wd in its range that actually has a full chassis and low range. my sister had a mazda tribute which she was certain it was a 4wd, until she took it up the beach and cooked the gearbox. 
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #53 on: October 17, 2015, 03:52:25 PM »
Quote from: me217 on October 17, 2015, 03:47:38 PM
ive got a suzuki grand vitara and i consider it a 4wd as it has a lever operating transfer case, and a proper low range. to me, if it doesnt have low range and a proper transfer case, then it isnt a 4wd its a big car. its also the same reason we looked at the suzuki. as its the only small 4wd in its range that actually has a full chassis and low range. my sister had a mazda tribute which she was certain it was a 4wd, until she took it up the beach and cooked the gearbox.

The old vitara was  a good little bus. But is the Amarok not a 4WD as it doesn't have a dedicated low range? I can see the day with ten speed auto boxes and no low range selection, just ultra low gears in the first three.
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #54 on: October 17, 2015, 04:38:33 PM »
If 4 wheels are driven, it's a 4WD.

Everything else is just marketing and semantics.......

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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2015, 05:02:27 PM »
Quote from: plusnq on October 17, 2015, 03:52:25 PM
The old vitara was  a good little bus. But is the Amarok not a 4WD as it doesn't have a dedicated low range? I can see the day with ten speed auto boxes and no low range selection, just ultra low gears in the first three.

nah its a VW! thats a whole other thread. lol  ;D ;D
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2015, 05:31:48 PM »
So does that make my Canter a Truck or a 4WD? Yes it has low range and a lower ratio first gear that is only used when you need to crawl.

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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2015, 05:36:12 PM »
I cant believe this has actually got to page 3.  As Speewa158 would say "Who gives a Truck".
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #58 on: October 17, 2015, 05:38:55 PM »
Quote from: Sixpack on October 17, 2015, 05:36:12 PM
I cant believe this has actually got to page 3.  As Speewa158 would say "Who gives a Truck".

Some obviously do......
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #59 on: October 17, 2015, 06:06:05 PM »
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
I think I'm going to spoil the party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No 4wd is a true 4wd drive unless you have center diff lock and front and rear lockers.

Sorry, but 4wd's even with just center diff lock are not true 4wd's. You will notice in uneven ruts that even with diff lock on it's 2wd. Power will go to the wheel with the least amount of resistance in both diffs, meaning if one wheel on the same diff is in the air and the other is stuck in a hole, the wheel in the air will turn and the one in the hole wont.................unless you have true 4wd...............lockers!

Car's are really one wheel drive unless you have a 9in.

Thats my nob take for the arvo :)  6 beers so far
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #60 on: October 17, 2015, 06:09:25 PM »
Some just enjoy an argument..... ;D
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #61 on: October 17, 2015, 06:11:53 PM »
Quote from: GeoffA on October 17, 2015, 06:09:25 PM
Some just enjoy an argument..... ;D

And love 4wding  :4x4:
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #62 on: October 17, 2015, 06:14:00 PM »
Quote from: cruiser 91 on October 17, 2015, 06:06:05 PM
......6 beers so far

A slow day??

If one wheel is in the air, and it's still moving, then clearly it's a 3WD...... ;D ;D

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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #63 on: October 17, 2015, 06:15:47 PM »
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #64 on: October 17, 2015, 06:19:33 PM »
Quote from: cruiser 91 on October 17, 2015, 06:06:05 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
I think I'm going to spoil the party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No 4wd is a true 4wd drive unless you have center diff lock and front and rear lockers.

Sorry, but 4wd's even with just center diff lock are not true 4wd's. You will notice in uneven ruts that even with diff lock on it's 2wd. Power will go to the wheel with the least amount of resistance in both diffs, meaning if one wheel on the same diff is in the air and the other is stuck in a hole, the wheel in the air will turn and the one in the hole wont.................unless you have true 4wd...............lockers!

Car's are really one wheel drive unless you have a 9in.

Thats my nob take for the arvo :)  6 beers so far

Traction control systems ?
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #65 on: October 17, 2015, 07:19:14 PM »
Quote from: GeoffA on October 17, 2015, 06:14:00 PM
A slow day??

If one wheel is in the air, and it's still moving, then clearly it's a 3WD...... ;D ;D

 :cheers:

Is it called a Morgan then?
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #66 on: October 17, 2015, 07:21:57 PM »
Quote from: plusnq on October 17, 2015, 07:19:14 PM
Is it called a Morgan then?

Or a Messerschmitt.... ;D
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #67 on: October 17, 2015, 07:25:38 PM »
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #68 on: October 17, 2015, 07:46:41 PM »
Quote from: Aussie Iron on October 17, 2015, 05:31:48 PM
So does that make my Canter a Truck or a 4WD? Yes it has low range and a lower ratio first gear that is only used when you need to crawl.

Dan.

it makes that awesome lol
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #69 on: October 17, 2015, 07:53:45 PM »
Quote from: Aussie Iron on October 17, 2015, 05:31:48 PM
So does that make my Canter a Truck or a 4WD?

Just makes me jealous that I don't have one  :D

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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #70 on: October 17, 2015, 10:33:30 PM »
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #72 on: October 18, 2015, 06:11:02 AM »
Looks like pickup time at any primary school in the country     ???       >:D >:D :cheers:
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #73 on: October 18, 2015, 06:15:42 AM »
Quote from: speewa158 on October 18, 2015, 06:11:02 AM
Looks like pickup time at any primary school in the country     ???       >:D >:D :cheers:


Drop offs worse.  Mother of 3 running late in an 'SUV' = get out of the way...
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Re: When does an SUV start getting called a 4WD?
« Reply #74 on: October 18, 2015, 08:11:04 AM »
Quote from: kylarama on October 18, 2015, 06:15:42 AM

Drop offs worse.  Mother of 3 running late in an 'SUV' = get out of the way...

I think we all know who to put in the tanks when the war starts  ;D ;D ;D
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