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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy?
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2014, 09:41:18 AM »
The less I spend on diesel = more I spend on accessories... or beer, but mainly beer! :cheers:
And I get great fuel economy swannie!!! ;D

Ha Knoath. I get 1 carton a day economy.... ooops sorry wrong vehicle. LMAO


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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy?
« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2014, 10:12:05 AM »

The recent Cape trip I think I used around 23ltrs per 100klm towing a fully laden camper. Its only a 6 cyclinder.

As mentioned knowing the distance you can travel is the main objective.

But for the cost of the fuel, $2.40 per litre for petrol in Siesia, knowing what fuel stops are along the way and fuelling up where it is cheaper helps.

For the amount spent on the trip for fuel, it pals into significant, compared to the adventure and fun I had on the trip. Memories are priceless.

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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy?
« Reply #52 on: July 12, 2014, 02:31:20 PM »
Had an old guy checking out my 200 at a carpark, he asked me (of course) whats the consumption like and i said about 13l per 100 around town and sometimes dips into the 10's on the highway, his response was "not much better than my v6 pajero!" Classic case of looking at only one factor......i was going to point out the other things eg power, comfort, NVH etc but clearly if he had test driven one he would of bought one ( budget allowing of course!)

Not knocking the pajero either for those who own one

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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy
« Reply #53 on: July 12, 2014, 02:50:43 PM »
C'mon guy lets face it. If you could spend $100 to fill up instead of $200 to fill up and go the same distance in he same terrain then I know what I would rather pay.
I have better things to spend my hard earned on rather than burning it filling up all the time.

A lot of the comment on this thread are from the petrol V8 guys who's vehicles drink more than a fish. Maybe trying to justify their choice of vehicle?
Good on em, I'd love to drive around in a V8 but I personally arent prepared to sacrifice the money for a bit more power when a 4cyl turbo diesel will still get me there. And unless your on a racetrack in roughly the same time too

My patrol isn't the most fuel efficient 4x4 around but I don't really care because its reasonable (10 -14lph depending on what and where I'm going) and its got large fuel tanks and will go 1000ks without having to fillup. And I like driving around in that style and type (truck) of vehicle.
I had a V6 petrol 4wd ute and it used 20l/100k's on a good run, not driving to conserve fuel down the highway at 100kph. Range was 300 - 350 klms to the tank. What pissed me off most about that was the amount of times I had to stop and fill the thing up.
So in that aspect fuel economy in my next 4wd was a factor.
My best (worst) figures in the V6 was driving Darwin to Perth fully loaded up with 2 motorbikes and heaps of other stuff and hooking in because i was in a rush - 30lph - 200klm range stopped at. Every petrol station. I was filling up 3 times to the corollas 1 fill.

Maybe you should have put all the gear and the motorbikes in the corollas...  :-*

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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy
« Reply #54 on: July 12, 2014, 03:45:23 PM »
Maybe you should have put all the gear and the motorbikes in the corollas...  :-*

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Now that would be a sight to see driving down the highway!

There are just too many variables in this debate.

Totally different types of vehicle, one is designed for something the other something else. But who is to say which is better than the other.
What one does the other can not and vice versa.

But like for like, I'd prefer an economical vehicle over a guzzler if they can both do the same thing. Moneys better in my pocket.


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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy
« Reply #55 on: July 12, 2014, 03:56:47 PM »

But like for like, I'd prefer an economical vehicle over a guzzler if they can both do the same thing. Moneys better in my pocket.

That's what all 3 litre Nissan Patrol owners say.

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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy?
« Reply #56 on: July 12, 2014, 04:33:18 PM »
That's what all 3 litre Nissan Patrol owners say.

Poor buggas  ;D

We are talking about fuel economy mate, not the price of exploded engine rebuilds  ;D
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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy?
« Reply #57 on: July 12, 2014, 04:48:38 PM »

Poor buggas  ;D

That's what a Patrol owner says when they are recovering all other 4x4s :)


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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy?
« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2014, 05:11:04 PM »
That's what a Patrol owner says when they are recovering all other 4x4s :)

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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy
« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2014, 10:42:17 AM »
Now that would be a sight to see driving down the highway!

There are just too many variables in this debate.

Totally different types of vehicle, one is designed for something the other something else. But who is to say which is better than the other.
What one does the other can not and vice versa.

But like for like, I'd prefer an economical vehicle over a guzzler if they can both do the same thing. Moneys better in my pocket.

you just saw the light mate .. so long as you have the vehicle to suit YOUR purpose you will never worry about the fuel economy.

In your case you did not need the bigger power so down graded and the bonus was less fuel  ;D

In my case if i did that I would have a completely useless set-up all for trying to save a few $$$ I would compromise my intire set-up.

Using my V8 for a school run car is just as silly IMO as people trying to tow 3T and another 1T of gear with a small 4cyl

The old adage "horses for courses' rings true in this debate. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy?
« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2014, 07:24:43 AM »
I think this thread should be reported to the mods, >:D fuel economy is a dirty word is it not. ;D

But fuel economy is easy to fix, just add another tank, :cup: problem solved, :cheers: that is what I did.

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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy?
« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2014, 11:25:40 AM »
I think the argument that fuel economy is irrelevant when you compare it to the total car ownership cost is flawed; money is money, whichever way you want to look at it. Just because your vehicle is costing a fortune in insurance, depreciation, maintenance, rego etc doesn't mean you can't save by keeping a bit of an eye on your economy

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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy?
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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy?
« Reply #63 on: July 14, 2014, 05:31:56 PM »
I think the argument that fuel economy is irrelevant when you compare it to the total car ownership cost is flawed; money is money, whichever way you want to look at it. Just because your vehicle is costing a fortune in insurance, depreciation, maintenance, rego etc doesn't mean you can't save by keeping a bit of an eye on your economy

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Just put $100 of fuel in each time then l/100ks means zilch ;D. By the way, why did we go from Miles per Gallon to Litres per 100 kilometres when we went metric? Much easier to work out at kilometres per litre, surely ???
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Re: Why the obsession with fuel economy
« Reply #64 on: July 14, 2014, 06:35:55 PM »


Using my V8 for a school run car is just as silly IMO as people trying to tow 3T and another 1T of gear with a small 4cyl



These days with modern technology a small 4cylinder turbo diesel vehicle is capable of pulling 3+ tonnes of weight and quite often do it better and more efficiently than a V8.

There are many trucks which are 4cylinders that have a GCM of over 11000kgs.
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