Fencing Issues

[Darcy7]

I don't know what it is about fences that turns perfectly good neighbours into complete a55holes...! 

My neighbour's dogs had eaten their way through to our backyard and after many attempts to patch things up, it was time for a new one.  When I approached them, they were all for replacing it and doing the work together.  But he didn't want to use a nail gun (on over 50m of fence...!!) and refused to allow my carpenter mate to help. Negotiations stalled at this point but their dogs continued to chew the fence.  One afternoon, we returned home to find their dogs in our yard.  My wife was trying to get them back to their yard when the neighbour accused her of beating their dogs. My wife is a dog lover and would never do such a thing however....  The next day, we came home to find half the fence torn down and the neighbours replacing it on their own.  When I asked what he was doing he said he was doing his half and we could do our half. Then he demanded we do it within a month...!

My attitude took a nose dive at this point and I said I'd do it when I'm good and ready.

When I finally did it, admittedly without giving him any notice but he wasn't home so bad luck, he came home, found my mate giving me a hand as me using a nail gun.  This sent him into an absolute rage and he verbally threatened me with physical violence, ON MY PROPERTY..!!  I dared him to do it (would have gladly taken one on the chin to see him carted away by the cops for assault..!!) but he quickly backed away and went to his house where he cursed about it to his wife so loudly that the whole street could hear him.

Needless to say we haven't uttered a word to each other since.   

[DRB120]

Fences certainly do bring out the worst in people.

What I find really hard to belive though is that on our other boundary there are 2 vacant lots, one was sold and the other still owned by the developed. I hadn't met the owner but managed to track down an email address for them and out of courtesy sent an email introducing myself and advising we would like to put up a fence. I expected it not to go so well but attached the quote anyway to just see what happened. I sent the email at 9 30 at night and had a reply within in an hour saying they were happy to go halves and just give them a call to get the account details the next day, They paid immediately and are really good honest people.

Now they were supposed to be the ones we would have trouble with yet the clowns that have lived there for 2 years are being difficult.

All in all I know Im in the right, don't owe them a cent and have done nothing untoward towards them, hell I didn't even know the block existed when the fence was put up. I will try and keep it civil with them as long as they pull their heads in and leave it be, if not they will learn quite quickly I have a short temper.

[DRB120]

Just as an aside, are there survey pegs with which to go off so
1) You know the existing fence reasonably follows the line of the common boundary with your neighbour
2) You are able to ascertain where the new fence should end.
Steve

Steffo

From what I can see the fence all looks to be in the correct position.

Cheers
Dale

[jetcrew]

I don't know what it is about fences that turns perfectly good neighbours into complete a55holes...! 

My neighbour's dogs had eaten their way through to our backyard and after many attempts to patch things up, it was time for a new one.  When I approached them, they were all for replacing it and doing the work together.  But he didn't want to use a nail gun (on over 50m of fence...!!) and refused to allow my carpenter mate to help. Negotiations stalled at this point but their dogs continued to chew the fence.  One afternoon, we returned home to find their dogs in our yard.  My wife was trying to get them back to their yard when the neighbour accused her of beating their dogs. My wife is a dog lover and would never do such a thing however....  The next day, we came home to find half the fence torn down and the neighbours replacing it on their own.  When I asked what he was doing he said he was doing his half and we could do our half. Then he demanded we do it within a month...!

My attitude took a nose dive at this point and I said I'd do it when I'm good and ready.

When I finally did it, admittedly without giving him any notice but he wasn't home so bad luck, he came home, found my mate giving me a hand as me using a nail gun.  This sent him into an absolute rage and he verbally threatened me with physical violence, ON MY PROPERTY..!!  I dared him to do it (would have gladly taken one on the chin to see him carted away by the cops for assault..!!) but he quickly backed away and went to his house where he cursed about it to his wife so loudly that the whole street could hear him.

Needless to say we haven't uttered a word to each other since.   

he would have looked funny nailed to the fence by his clothes

[oldmate]

I don't know what it is about fences that turns perfectly good neighbours into complete a55holes...! 

My neighbour's dogs had eaten their way through to our backyard and after many attempts to patch things up, it was time for a new one.  When I approached them, they were all for replacing it and doing the work together.  But he didn't want to use a nail gun (on over 50m of fence...!!) and refused to allow my carpenter mate to help. Negotiations stalled at this point but their dogs continued to chew the fence.  One afternoon, we returned home to find their dogs in our yard.  My wife was trying to get them back to their yard when the neighbour accused her of beating their dogs. My wife is a dog lover and would never do such a thing however....  The next day, we came home to find half the fence torn down and the neighbours replacing it on their own.  When I asked what he was doing he said he was doing his half and we could do our half. Then he demanded we do it within a month...!

My attitude took a nose dive at this point and I said I'd do it when I'm good and ready.

When I finally did it, admittedly without giving him any notice but he wasn't home so bad luck, he came home, found my mate giving me a hand as me using a nail gun.  This sent him into an absolute rage and he verbally threatened me with physical violence, ON MY PROPERTY..!!  I dared him to do it (would have gladly taken one on the chin to see him carted away by the cops for assault..!!) but he quickly backed away and went to his house where he cursed about it to his wife so loudly that the whole street could hear him.

Needless to say we haven't uttered a word to each other since.   

do you know what his issuie with a nail gun is?

ps All  neighbours are  a55holes...!  best of not getting to know most

[Mrs smith]

There's an old saying.
"Good fences make good neighbours"

[fishfinder]

When I purchased a block of land 15 years ago in WA i was up for half the cost of the fence dividing the the property from the rear of our block even though there was already a fence there - I questioned the local council and yes when purchasing a block of land on this new sub division if there was a fence already erected on the boundary on the left hand and right hand side of the block I need not to pay but with the rear fence it was 50/50 with the neighbours even if there is a fence already there prior to purchasing but we did have 12 months to pay and in that time the neighbours sold there property so we did not end up having to pay.

[DRB120]

When I purchased a block of land 15 years ago in WA i was up for half the cost of the fence dividing the the property from the rear of our block even though there was already a fence there - I questioned the local council and yes when purchasing a block of land on this new sub division if there was a fence already erected on the boundary on the left hand and right hand side of the block I need not to pay but with the rear fence it was 50/50 with the neighbours even if there is a fence already there prior to purchasing but we did have 12 months to pay and in that time the neighbours sold there property so we did not end up having to pay.

Ive heard this happening before, the rules appear to be very different in WA for fencing compared to QLD.

Cheers
Dale

[#jonesy]

Have you spoken to the developer you bought the land off? 

You never know, they may have already paid half.

[DRB120]

Have you spoken to the developer you bought the land off? 

You never know, they may have already paid half.

I haven't directly, however I know he wouldn't pay for half as developers no longer need to. The neighbour let me know he spoke with the developer also and they said they wouldn't pay.

I did have a suspicion they may have been trying to pull a swifty, but who knows. Reality Is they are either just stupid or they are deliberately trying to rip me off, these neighbours are in their late 50's Im guessing so they should know better by now you'd think.

Cheers
Dale

[IanC]

do you know what his issuie with a nail gun is?

Some old school builders don't like using nail guns on fences.  Something to do with the action stripping the galvanising off the nails. 

[ScottH]

Just to add an alternate perspective, is it possible the developer told the owners of the other block that they wouldn't pay, and it would need to be claimed off the new owners after purchase?

It doesn't mean you are liable, but I've had a developer tell me something similar when looking at vacant lots - it's a way for them to fob off any question of fencing costs, by deferring the charge until they sell the block. A new buyer might not know they don't have to pay, so they get away with it.

[Nomad]

Quite probably Scott,

Most developers would have clausing in their contracts to disclaim themselves of the financial liability to construct boundary fencing.....amongst a billion other things that they disclaim themselves out of.

  Nomad.