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This vs long range tank
« on: June 28, 2014, 08:28:46 AM »
Thoughts anyone? Considering this spare fuel tank on top of the fourby rather than buying a long ranger.
The only problem I can see is filling it up, if it is on the roof.
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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2014, 08:30:47 AM »
I wouldn't be putting 200kg on roof mate, go the long ranger.
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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2014, 08:36:29 AM »
Wayne, go the long ranger too much weight sitting on your roof
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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2014, 08:40:31 AM »
Fuji   Great idea to have that much fuel on hand  ,,,,, but ,,, Why    ??? . Just where are you going that you need to carry that much fuel  ??? lf its a $ thing while traveling can you afford to go in the 1st place . ???
The tank would possibly weigh about 30kg or so then the fuel , possible  200kg or so  that's going to make you very top heavy & increase you wind drag even when its empty . With the 2 tanks you have that should give you a decent range  :cheers:
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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2014, 08:54:58 AM »
X2 re increased wind resistance and handling issues.
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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2014, 08:58:52 AM »
I chose that one as it wasnt a bad shape, there is also the 100 litre version or 50 litre

http://polydieseltanks.com.au/showtank.asp?tank=DL100L&code=DUL0100LD040V1

http://polydieseltanks.com.au/polydieseltanks.asp?tank=DL50L


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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2014, 09:00:20 AM »
Wayne, my brother uses one of them on the back of his ute to refuel his farm machines, they are great BUT far too heavy to put up on the roof

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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2014, 09:00:58 AM »
I too would not want that much weight on the roof mate, but see the need for the ability to carry extra fuel.

Keep your eye on eBay/Gumtree etc, I found a long range tank for our 100 series for $225 ( holds 170l and takes our total to 260l ), at that price I could justify the money but at over the counter new prices I would never have bought one !!

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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2014, 09:07:27 AM »
Quote from: macca on June 28, 2014, 09:00:20 AM
Wayne, my brother uses one of them on the back of his ute to refuel his farm machines, they are great BUT far too heavy to put up on the roof

Missed your last post was talking about the 200 liter unit, also check what baffles are in them I can't remember seeing any in them. I have a ninety liter tank in the back of my car and it slops around pretty bad when half full and it has three baffles in it
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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2014, 09:16:40 AM »
Putting on the roof will cause a massive C of G problem. Your 4b will handle like an elephant on roller skates, dangerous.
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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2014, 09:55:12 AM »
180 litre tank in a 120 diesel Prado used to get me 1600-1700km towing, with a nice low c of g. Never would I put 200 litres up on the roof. Good point about the baffles. If you've got you're heart set on carrying an extra 200 litres I'd try and put it somewhere else. Maybe go for the 50 -100 l and modify the ct so it can go on the drawbar instead of jerry cans?


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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2014, 10:11:02 AM »
forget about the weight and capacity and COG issues for a minute..... at 565mm high it's gonna sit a long way above your vehicle for a start, get a tape measure out and stick it up above the roof of your vehicle to get an idea what i'm talking about. the wind drag issue aswell as the COG issue and then the weight of it all shows it's probaly not a great option IMHO. even if you were to fill it with only 60ltrs to help keep the weight down, the empty weight is nearly 40kgs...that's like having a couple of bags of concrete on your roofrack all the time and then you'll add another couple more up there when you add the 60 ltrs of fuel into it to be the same as 3 jerry cans (hence the COG comments people are talking about). personally i'd stick with carting 3 empty jerry cans and just fill them as you need them, you'd save money in the long run even it means paying a touch extra for the fuel as you buy it out wherever....quickly empty the jerry cans as soon as possible into the vehicle and you're left with minimal weight to carry after that.
a mate took something similar across the Simpson Desert when we crossed it a few years back, but he had a ute and it was a different shape to that and packed away perfectly in the back of his set up, not up high on a roof. I have a 180ltr longrange tank in the back of my cruiser....i certainly feel the differance straight away in handling characteristics of my vehicle when it gets filled for a big run somewhere, i'd hate to try and have that weight up high instead of down low in my vehicle
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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2014, 10:23:12 AM »
Quote from: Rumpig on June 28, 2014, 10:11:02 AM
forget about the weight and capacity and COG issues for a minute..... at 565mm high it's gonna sit a long way above your vehicle for a start, get a tape measure out and stick it up above the roof of your vehicle to get an idea what i'm talking about. the wind drag issue aswell as the COG issue and then the weight of it all shows it's probaly not a great option IMHO. even if you were to fill it with only 60ltrs to help keep the weight down, the empty weight is nearly 40kgs...that's like having a couple of bags of concrete on your roofrack all the time and then you'll add another couple more up there when you add the 60 ltrs of fuel into it to be the same as 3 jerry cans (hence the COG comments people are talking about). personally i'd stick with carting 3 empty jerry cans and just fill them as you need them, you'd save money in the long run even it means paying a touch extra for the fuel as you buy it out wherever....quickly empty the jerry cans as soon as possible into the vehicle and you're left with minimal weight to carry after that.
a mate took something similar across the Simpson Desert when we crossed it a few years back, but he had a ute and it was a different shape to that and packed away perfectly in the back of his set up, not up high on a roof. I have a 180ltr longrange tank in the back of my cruiser....i certainly feel the differance straight away in handling characteristics of my vehicle when it gets filled for a big run somewhere, i'd hate to try and have that weight up high instead of down low in my vehicle



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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2014, 10:53:12 AM »
You wouldn't put 12 jerry cans of diesel on your roof would you ?  ???
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2014, 11:38:29 AM »
How much fuel can you carry before you have to placard it    ???    Then it becomes a different thing , find a :police: & ask him the question . they should know  :cheers:
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2014, 11:43:07 AM »
Does anyone put something like this in their Campertrailer?  If it was located above the axle in would be OK I guess ???

Just noticed they have ball baffles http://polydieseltanks.com.au/polydieseltanks.asp?tank=Cutaway-Ball-Baffles-in-Diesel-Tank  i wonder if they would fit in the smaller tanks?
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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2014, 11:53:40 AM »
I just brought the 100L version..........it was for work to refill generators.

If you go down this track you just need a rectangle tank (low profile), no need for a pump, hose and nozzle as you can gravity feed. Way cheaper than what you was looking at.

I see plenty of rig getting around with three or more jerries on the roof rack. I would look at say a 60L tank.

On my last trip to Moreton I had a 70L tank up top for water which worked a treat. Although I only filled it on the way back to camp 7-10km max


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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2014, 12:04:09 PM »
Quote from: xcvator on June 28, 2014, 10:53:12 AM
You wouldn't put 12 jerry cans of diesel on your roof would you ?  ???

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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2014, 04:30:44 PM »
Thats why I was thinking of getting rid of the 4 jerry holders on the tow bar of the camper. I had Aussie Swag put them there for carrying extra diesel. Move the gas bottles to the outside and the spare tank in the middle. One tank vs 4 jerrys. I agree with the weight issues on top of the roof rack. :cheers:
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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2014, 05:47:39 PM »
Saw a patrol with 8 Gerry cans across the back of his roof rack today here in Alice. :(
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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2014, 07:40:27 PM »
My handling is spoilt by a RTT. God only knows what a sloshing 100+ kilos would do.   Tried a spare up there once. What a pain.  I may be different but I bought a camper so I didn't have to carry ****e on the roof. Can see where you are coming from though brother.
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2014, 07:43:58 PM »
Why does it need a pump?     Gravity should be enough.
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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2014, 07:44:48 PM »
Ok the real reason I hate stuff on the roof is because the sahara is too noisy with the sunroof open.... but the other reasons run a very close second :)
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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2014, 08:47:23 AM »
Quote from: oldmate on June 28, 2014, 12:04:09 PM
X2

Check your weight rating on roof racks, and on the roof itself.

X2, also don't forget the GYM in your consideration. That's a lot of additional weight...
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Re: This vs long range tank
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2014, 12:21:29 PM »
100 litre tank with my wife's muscles are chicken feed. ;D
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