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Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« on: June 12, 2014, 10:41:36 AM »
Ok am planning a cold weather camp next month so temps at or below zero where we going

I am happy to run gen set for a few hrs each evening as it's just us really so fir inside the soft floor  what type of heater would be best bar or fan.

I have never owned a heater before any advice appreciated ..

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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2014, 10:55:01 AM »
Fan heater or electric blanket. Can get those electric blanket throw rugs also..

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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2014, 11:04:24 AM »
We do lots of cold camps in Tassie, even in summer sometimes and use the screw on the top of a gas bottle style heaters, these seem to work nice.

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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2014, 11:15:23 AM »
We do lots of cold camps in Tassie, even in summer sometimes and use the screw on the top of a gas bottle style heaters, these seem to work nice.
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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2014, 11:17:01 AM »
Just not real keen on a gas heater inside the camper ..but it would be better under annex that's fir sure.
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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2014, 11:19:29 AM »

Ok am planning a cold weather camp next month so temps at or below zero where we going

I am happy to run gen set for a few hrs each evening as it's just us really so fir inside the soft floor  what type of heater would be best bar or fan.

I have never owned a heater before any advice appreciated ..

Big green she'd has heaps of them

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hey Jet, either would be fine if you have access to 240v. Alternatively we use the Gasmate butane heater in our CT for 1/2hr before bed and find it just takes the chill off the air etc. Main warning with any of them is not to leave on overnight or unattended. Having said that the electric fan heaters should have a 'tip over cutout switch' for safety purposes.

Not sure how far south you're heading but if you're coming anywhere near Wallan happy to lend you a small fan heater or my butane one to save buying one.

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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2014, 11:21:59 AM »
If you are on power then a cheap $20 fan heater is the go. They are small & don't get too hot so they won't burn things. Get one with a thermostat & you can run it all night to keep some background warmth.


I'm not keen on any gas style heater in an enclosed space & don't leave it running over night. . . . Too many people have gone to sleep & never woken back up again due to the fumes . . . . . . . . .

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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2014, 11:32:11 AM »
We bought a Mr Heater Buddy portable heater by Primus and would have been my wife's and daughters favourite purchase when we used it 2 weeks back at Gordon Country, one very cold wet night. About $110 at Tentworld and has a low oxygen and knock over cut out sensor. We put it in the tent for about an hour before going to bed, it was toasty warm inside.




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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2014, 11:47:28 AM »
 :cup: :cup: scraps ..but not coming down that far..very kind of you

Lara likes the look of the tabletop patio heater $99 and can be used at home ..9kg gas bottle and place under annex or inside for 10mins just as you all say to knock the cool out if air. Then turn on in morning yo coax her out of bed...under annex.

Thinking gas heater is probably better as can be used anywhere with no noise .

Only need to warm  inside before bed . Not run all night ect

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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2014, 12:07:07 PM »
It's not a wise move to Have a gas Heater inside a tent, ok.
Having said that.
Sit the gas bottle in a milk crate, or bucket with a wide base.
Helps with the stability factor.
240 V. Fan heater would be better.  Access to 240V can be an issue.
Not a Fan of Bar Heaters, they rely on the glow.  There's no air movement.
No forced mixing of warm and cold air. 
Just Hot air rising by convection, from elements that are extremely HOT!!!
Can be a problem, with something dropping on them, same as gas heaters.
Electric Blankets, maybe, not a fan of them either.
NEVER sleep on a Leccy Blanket with it working, OK.
NEVER FOLD a Leccy Blanket, just roll it up.
The insulation will crack on the elements, wires, if folded a number of times between uses.
The Human body sweats when warm.
The sweat is a really good conductor of electricity.
I don't want to explain the rest, ok.
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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2014, 12:31:08 PM »
It's not a wise move to Have a gas Heater inside a tent, ok.
Having said that.
Sit the gas bottle in a milk crate, or bucket with a wide base.
Helps with the stability factor.
240 V. Fan heater would be better.  Access to 240V can be an issue.
Not a Fan of Bar Heaters, they rely on the glow.  There's no air movement.
No forced mixing of warm and cold air. 
Just Hot air rising by convection, from elements that are extremely HOT!!!
Can be a problem, with something dropping on them, same as gas heaters.
Electric Blankets, maybe, not a fan of them either.
NEVER sleep on a Leccy Blanket with it working, OK.
NEVER FOLD a Leccy Blanket, just roll it up.
The insulation will crack on the elements, wires, if folded a number of times between uses.
The Human body sweats when warm.
The sweat is a really good conductor of electricity.
I don't want to explain the rest, ok.

I've heard of incidents of this. Its shocking.... (someone had to do it)

We use a fan heater for the couple of cold trips where we have had 240v. its brilliant for keeping the canvas dry and keeps the inside nice and toasty. When we have had the 240v we left it going all night and made it possible to pack up dry. But I have heard good things about electric blankets as they cau be run of inverters where no power. Not much help though if you are not in bed!
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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2014, 02:06:57 PM »
Wouldn't use a bar heater, takes time to warm up, could scorch or burn something.

We use a small fan heater one with a safety cut out if it gets covered falls over etc,
and has thermostat.

Down side is they can be noisy so low fan speed and bigger fan probably better, and some
rattle, found sitting on a table on a small piece of carpet or same on floor stops a lot of noise.

Advantage of fan heater is instant heat, we have found heated our Jayco finch in a few minutes
and that's with ice on the flys.

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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2014, 04:07:03 PM »
Theo,
2 years ago we did a trip to a sub zero overnight area.

We took a little electric fan heater with a thermostat control.  What we found is that it would run for a little while at the start, warm the inside right up,and then occassionally cut in and out through the night.
Didn't cost much to buy, took up very litte room, was easy to setup, and worked a treat.

It helped take the edge off the air out under the awning as well. Especially if you have the walls up. Otherwise, just place under the table.

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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2014, 04:49:21 PM »
We bought a Mr Heater Buddy portable heater by Primus and would have been my wife's and daughters favourite purchase when we used it 2 weeks back at Gordon Country, one very cold wet night. About $110 at Tentworld and has a low oxygen and knock over cut out sensor. We put it in the tent for about an hour before going to bed, it was toasty warm inside.




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We have the same heater. Runs off those coleman screw on portable bottles. Put it in the tent 1/2 hour before bedtime and it really warms the place up nicely. Im an early riser, so i turn it on when i get up so the ladies can have a warm tent in the morning! The tip over and low oxygen cut off gives a bit of peace of mind. But as others have said, we never have it going whilst sleeping. Just takes the chill off the air before bed.
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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2014, 05:06:42 PM »
If we go somewhere there is 240 we use something similar to this.Takes the chill off the air.Sit it on a ply base.

http://www.kmart.com.au/product/homemaker-5-fin-oil-heater---1000-watt/139857
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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2014, 05:34:46 PM »
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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2014, 05:35:47 PM »
I played this game with the wide selection of little electric fan heaters from the green shed and my one kva Honda. Even the smallest watt (750 I think) one would not run on it properly. Although with a bigger (2kva) generator, I could not see why one of the little bangers wouldn't work. I would go the smallest watt fan heater as they seem to warm a camper pretty good from the kmart jobby we have used in caravan parks.

Bar heaters, and gas could be asking for trouble, and the bar heaters seem to use more power to run. I considered the oil heaters but for watts compared to heat they are big and clunky.
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2014, 05:57:49 PM »
Small fan heater. Compact n heats camper very quickly. There are ones that can both stand vertical n horizontal for stability.
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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2014, 09:04:51 PM »
I played this game with the wide selection of little electric fan heaters from the green shed and my one kva Honda. Even the smallest watt (750 I think) one would not run on it properly. Although with a bigger (2kva) generator, I could not see why one of the little bangers wouldn't work. I would go the smallest watt fan heater as they seem to warm a camper pretty good from the kmart jobby we have used in caravan parks.

Bar heaters, and gas could be asking for trouble, and the bar heaters seem to use more power to run. I considered the oil heaters but for watts compared to heat they are big and clunky.

Oh this is coming together .. So I need to tell the wife I can't sell the 2kva geny because we need it to run a fan heater..

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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2014, 10:08:09 PM »
Portable and versatile. In the shed or camping. The go anywhere solution, for me at least.


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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2014, 11:33:18 PM »
If we go somewhere there is 240 we use something similar to this.Takes the chill off the air.Sit it on a ply base.

http://www.kmart.com.au/product/homemaker-5-fin-oil-heater---1000-watt/139857


Hi,

We have a similar type of oil heater, the one change I made was to remove the 4 wheels and bolt on rubber feet to ensure it did not move about on Cub Escape Hard floor which moves a bit when we move around.

Works well when we have 240V.

We also have a Coleman ProCat Catalytic Heater http://www.coleman.com/product/5053A751#
Which warms the camper up but we make sure there some windows and flaps part open to insure fresh air circulation and ALWAYS switch it OFF before we go to bed.

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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2014, 06:11:15 AM »
We also use the finned oil heater, found that it keeps it's heat even after it's turned off, so a good solution for a generator where you use it to warm up a area and it radiates heat after the generator is turned off
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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2014, 08:46:07 AM »
We also use the finned oil heater, found that it keeps it's heat even after it's turned off, so a good solution for a generator where you use it to warm up a area and it radiates heat after the generator is turned off

Another very good point

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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2014, 09:53:22 AM »
We also use the finned oil heater, found that it keeps it's heat even after it's turned off, so a good solution for a generator where you use it to warm up a area and it radiates heat after the generator is turned off

Oil heaters are relatively large to cart around.   

We seem to nearly always camp in the cold.  We take a fan heater if the trip will mostly have power available, or a butane one if we will be mostly be bush camping.  And an electric blanket as they only draw 60w each side and take no space. 

If you want to use a fan heater on a genie, check the sizing.  Most are 2400 watts which needs a fair sized genie.   

We mostly use the butane one in the annex with all walls up,  as the greater air volume and more air gaps makes it safer. We normally go through 3/4 can per night.

Always take great care with heaters and canvas, so don't overdo the refreshments.




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Re: Ok southerners fan or bar heater
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2014, 10:36:11 AM »
Oil heaters are relatively large to cart around.   

We seem to nearly always camp in the cold.  We take a fan heater if the trip will mostly have power available, or a butane one if we will be mostly be bush camping.  And an electric blanket as they only draw 60w each side and take no space. 

If you want to use a fan heater on a genie, check the sizing.  Most are 2400 watts which needs a fair sized genie.   

We mostly use the butane one in the annex with all walls up,  as the greater air volume and more air gaps makes it safer. We normally go through 3/4 can per night.

Always take great care with heaters and canvas, so don't overdo the refreshments.

If you have enough refreshments you don't  need a heater  ;D