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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2014, 02:23:47 PM »
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A la the new Nissan Pathfinder ?....

I believe that isn't even 4wd anymore.
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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2014, 04:20:07 PM »
I believe that isn't even 4wd anymore.
Jeep are now selling the GC in 2wd so seems to be the way of things these days.

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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2014, 05:51:25 PM »
is this the new shark nose model? Not doing it for me, but suspect it will go ok.




It looks better in real life.   I don't hate it like when I saw the first pics. 

Now Fiat owns it they are going with the more European styling, because it sells.


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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2014, 07:48:20 PM »
ok, here tis





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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2014, 08:12:29 PM »
My inlaws have a 2012 CRD Overland with 20,000km on the clock in showroom condition and in true Jeep fashion never been offroad. They set off from Brisbane at the start of April heading toward Adelaide to start their 6 month half lap.

They haven't made it past Sydney and the Jeep has spent over 30 days in three separate Jeep Service Centres and still isn't fixed and seemingly they don't have a clue how too. Would I ever buy or recommend one..... NEVER!
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Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2014, 08:22:06 PM »
Sorry to hear that coiled. I hope it gets sorted for them.

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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2014, 09:01:25 PM »
Took a work jeep into the dealer at essendon in vic. In the doorway of the drive in service area were three used engines out of jeeps. Hardly inspiring I thought.  The work jeep was one of those 4 door soft tops. Lovely willing and smooth engine but everything else was vague as hell.

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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2014, 02:06:09 PM »
and the Jeep...

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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2014, 02:37:06 PM »
Yep, no you're right. No positive upside of owning a Jeep

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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2014, 02:48:38 PM »
Yep, no you're right. No positive upside of owning a Jeep
yea you have to replace most of it to make it useable :D
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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2014, 03:51:12 PM »
"Another important point to note.  A neighbour of mine is Alan from Terrain Tamer.  I bumped into Him at my local servo and He was quick to coach me on the dangers of running a modern CRD as a town vehicle.  Unless they get regular good hot operating temperature runs, as opposed to local school and sport runs, there is a thing called a Diesel Particulate filter on late model CRDs that has the ability to clog up and **** the engine up really quickly.
If you're a city dweller, recommendation is to get the petrol motor"

This used to happen a while ago with the DPF filters but these days the computer fixes this by every once in a while making the car run really rich which i am lead to believe causes it to run hotter so it burns the stuff out of the DPF some even have a light on the dash to let you know this is happening in case you notice any performance changes or smoke

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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2014, 05:13:46 PM »
yea you have to replace most of it to make it useable :D
no, you're right, definitely have to think about trading up to a newer model:-)

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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2014, 09:37:16 PM »
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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2014, 04:52:56 AM »
We were super keen on a new Grand Cherokee but decided against it in the end. They're a great looking car, but i've got one friend with a WK2 and one friend with a Wrangler, and both have talked about warranty issues and trouble getting parts. I haven't heard anything in the past 8 months or so, but back then they indicated there was a shortage of spare parts in Australia. That said, both of them were given a car to drive while theirs was out of action.

We've also got two friends who work for car dealers. One is a buyer for Q Ford, the other does fleet sales for Zupps. They both warned us to stay away from Jeep. I suppose there'll always be someone ready to say bad things about any make or model, and it's a shame to hear the negative feedback because i had my heart set on a Trailhawk, but i'd rather be disappointed about not getting a car than disappointed about getting a lemon.

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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #41 on: June 14, 2014, 06:25:05 AM »
Was just going to post this link, here is his webpage.

Welcome to DESTROY MY JEEP


Wow. That is one hell of a rant. Justified though.
I guess he shouldn't have bought a jeep.

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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2014, 07:03:36 AM »
Love or hate em, they're selling their sox off atm and many happy 'bought a Jeep' owners for now.
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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2014, 07:41:41 AM »
Wow. That is one hell of a rant. Justified though.
I guess he shouldn't have bought a jeep.
I can 100% sympathise with this guy as I endured 6 years of grief with an 2002 Grand Cherokee, albeit mine was obtained 2nd hand in 06 with 112k's. The stigma and ridicule from everyone got to me eventually, not to mention the repair bills and inconvenience of having the vehicle not available, and I rejoined the Toyota fold after a 15 year absence, never to be parted again.
They may be selling heaps but thats zero indication of the resale value come end of warranty. Talk to any fleet managers, car dealers or non-jeep mechanics and you will get an idea of what to buy and what is a risk.
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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2014, 08:23:00 AM »
Interesting, I've got a mate that got rid of his 80series and joined the Patrol ranks.
Similar story, bought it with 120k on the odometer and ended up spending over $15k keeping the 80 on the road.

Plus the resale value isn't valid when you take into account the lease interest payments on a $100k vs $60k
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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2014, 08:35:53 AM »
Interesting, I've got a mate that got rid of his 80series and joined the Patrol ranks.
Similar story, bought it with 120k on the odometer and ended up spending over $15k keeping it on the road.
Scarps, my repair bills topped $30k with no end in sight.
I had a 1982 FJ45 troopie, then stupidly sold it instead of replacing the engine and had a bankrupting courtship of a series 3 V8 rover, then unfathomably went to jeep so have now come full circle. But that is off topic and nobody else cares, the point is that this particular brand has a poor reputation in the aust automotive industry compared to most jap makes and for very real reasons and not just the whining of a few. Im sure the majority of jeeps are ok, but the chance of having issues is a point to consider when buying in my book rather than price  alone. I could have bought a brand new GC overland and loaded half the ARB catalogue onto it for the price I paid for my used sahara. And that is the ultimate insult on Jeep.
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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2014, 08:38:13 AM »
Scarps, my repair bills topped $30k with no end in sight.
I had a 1982 FJ45 troopie, then stupidly sold it instead of replacing the engine and had a bankrupting courtship of a series 3 V8 rover, then unfathomably went to jeep so have now come full circle. But that is off topic and nobody else cares, the point is that this particular brand has a poor reputation in the aust automotive industry compared to most jap makes and for very real reasons and not just the whining of a few. Im sure the majority of jeeps are ok, but the chance of having issues is a point to consider when buying in my book rather than price  alone. I could have bought a brand new GC overland and loaded half the ARB catalogue onto it for the price I paid for my used sahara. And that is all that needs to be said.
don't necessarily disagree but you are incorrect on your statement re ARB.

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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2014, 08:45:45 AM »
don't necessarily disagree but you are incorrect on your statement re ARB.
Okay, a quarter?? I would have had over $10k which at the time would have bought most of the available goodies, though I understand there are now lots more supported products.
I was looking at the GC but then multiple stories surfaced about the 4wd system going into meltdown and disengaging the front axle. That and the fact that the gearbox was still only technically a 4 sp auto with an extra overdrive (the currebt 8sp would be nice) were enuff dis incentives for me.

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« Reply #48 on: June 14, 2014, 08:49:07 AM »
Okay, a quarter?? I would have had over $10k which at the time would have bought most of the available goodies, though I understand there are now lots more supported products.
I was looking at the GC but then multiple stories surfaced about the 4wd system going into meltdown and disengaging the front axle. That and the fact that the gearbox was still only technically a 4 sp auto with an extra overdrive (the currebt 8sp would be nice) were enuff dis incentives for me.
agree:-)

I must just be one of the lucky ones. Started with a KJ V6 and now the WK2 Laredo CRD. Outside of availability of aftermarket access, great experience to date. Plus I love the banter, keeps me motivated:-)

I should also consider myself a bit fortunate, at least I'll never have to worry about his issue....
Plus Jeep chicks are hot!
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Re: Thinking of a Jeep...
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