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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2014, 10:27:23 AM »
IMO
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Who cares about justified or not the most important questions is where it the VP whilst this other guy has run back outside to help his mates when his primary objective is to evac the VP
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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #51 on: April 29, 2014, 10:36:01 AM »
Veracity or not if he has admitted to interferring with another person's fishing apparatus regardless of why it is an offence under the fisheries act and he could get a fine (up to $1k from memory). If he was smart he would take down the admission on his website but I would say it is too late now and someone in fisheries will be knocking on his door in the coming days. This has happened a few times up here in recent years. Blokes boasting about catching and photographing out of season barra on fishing forums have been pinged too. Once brough to FQs attention they love to make an easy bust.

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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2014, 11:43:27 AM »
" This blokes crab pot did move, by his own admission, several hundred metres down the creek until it stopped right beside us. There was a deep hole under us and I would say the rope was wrapped around the pot as it rolled along and the float was slowly be submerged under a very fast incoming tide. 3m in fact. The float was about 50mm below the surface.

 I thought there was no way the owner was going to be able to retrieve this so using the gaff I pulled it up. There was a phone number on the float but as I had no reception I pulled the whole pot up. As it had a number of undersized crabs in it my thought was to empty it and leave it at the boat ramp."




If this was said in court I think the prosecution would probably say something along the lines of;

"I have difficulty accepting the veracity of your claims"   :D


Agreed Dazzler,

Everyone knows you just don't touch others pots and I find it hard to believe anyone would leave a found pot at the boat ramp as it would only get pinched by someone else anyway.

And the other thing is the person who busted him said that he was measuring the crabs in his boat? The alleged offender has said that he was emptying out undersize crabs, I don't know about anyone else but I have never tipped undersize crabs into my boat they have gone straight back over the side...
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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2014, 12:12:53 PM »
I think the bloke caught lifting the pots should think himself lucky that the owner of the pots only followed him and took photos. There have been many instances over the last 5 years of bust ups and so on in the Pine River over lifting others pots.

Its really a simple rule, if it isn't yours then leave it alone. The only reason a pot should be touched is if it gets tangled in the prop, in that case untangle it and throw it back.
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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2014, 12:14:58 PM »
I think the bloke caught lifting the pots should think himself lucky that the owner of the pots only followed him and took photos. There have been many instances over the last 5 years of bust ups and so on in the Pine River over lifting others pots.

Its really a simple rule, if it isn't yours then leave it alone. The only reason a pot should be touched is if it gets tangled in the prop, in that case untangle it and throw it back.

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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2014, 12:56:43 PM »
If his story was correct, he was only trying to do what was right - I'm sure we have all done things for the benefit of others that have backfired

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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2014, 01:13:58 PM »

Hi all,

I have just spoke to a guy from Queensland Fisheries at the Cairns office, and asked him for the laws/regulations about the removal/theft of crabs/crab pots.

In summary he stated that the theft of crabs/crab pots is a criminal charge and is reported to the police, and court action will decide the penalties/fines .

But there is also another channel that normally is pursued and that is listed/copied from the fisheries act below, and in most cases the two charges go hand in hand.

The fisheries act states 500 penalty points, that is $1000.00 per of fence, if for example there were four pots moved/robbed that is a $ 4000.00 dollar fine plus the Police criminal charge and fines.


Queensland
FISHERIES ACT 1994


Interference etc. with aquaculture activity or fishing apparatus
87.(1)
A person must not unlawfully interfere with an aquaculture
activity or fishing apparatus.
Maximum penalty—500 penalty units.
(2)
In this section—
“interfere with”
includes—
(a)
for an aquaculture activity—the removal of fisheries resources,
damage and destroy; and
(b)
for fishing apparatus—the removal of fisheries resources,
damage, destroy, mark, remove and trample.


He stated that this charge can be issued to people who even only move the pot.

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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2014, 01:36:17 PM »
I was boating along the banks near Jumpin Pin many years ago, and ended up with a few metres of rope and a crab pot wrapped around my outboard motor shaft. It took nearly half an hour to clear the mess up.
I guess based on what the regulations seem to indicate that I would be charged with interfering with some bozo's crab pot and fined $1 000.
If the bottle that was submerged and not visible had a name or phone number on it, I would have hunted the ignorant bastard down and given him my rules to ponder.
Now I don't see a crab pot drifting around too far, but that doesn't mean it can't or that some other creature hasn't decided it was a Chrissie Basket of goodies and decided to take it home.
There is probably a lot more to this story than we will ever hear, but there is a vast difference between measuring some crabs and taking them home, and only one of them involves theft.
As to the almighty 11th commandment, "thou shalt not covet thy neighbours crab pot", who the hell decided that boating safety should be compromised by a $10 pot and a lump of rope left in a dangerous position?
I guess it comes back to the old saying...... give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he can turn into a brainless wanker.
Morons who drop this Shite onto Facebook and the like instead of manning up are the ones that need shooting.

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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #58 on: April 29, 2014, 02:09:38 PM »
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« Last Edit: April 29, 2014, 07:18:01 PM by wilson79 »
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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2014, 02:53:47 PM »
Hi All,

I have decided to edit my original post as after reading through the posts I decided that it was inappropriate and might put the forum at risk?

I still stand by all my other comments re the practice of raiding pots and my opinion that the alleged thief's story seems to be hard to believe going on what has been written by the person who posted the picture on facebook and the other guys response to the facebook post..

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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2014, 05:06:27 PM »
Happens a little here in Broome but not too much - plenty of crabs to go round here without nicking them!!

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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #61 on: April 29, 2014, 06:42:36 PM »
I am quite happy to PM you my address if you want to pop around to "shoot me" but make sure you are a good shot
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I didn't say I was going to shoot anyone. I guess it shows what side of the moron scales you reside on, however if I did want to shoot anyone I can guarantee I wouldn't miss.

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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #62 on: April 29, 2014, 07:12:11 PM »
None of this would have happened if he left the pots alone, lesson learnt I think . And people talking about shooting  other people over this thread need to step back from the keyboard and have a breath. Might be time for the mods to end this one.

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Re: Mongrels who check others Crab Pots
« Reply #63 on: April 29, 2014, 07:15:46 PM »
None of this would have happened if he left the pots alone, lesson learnt I think . And people talking about shooting  other people over this thread need to step back from the keyboard and have a breath. Might be time for the mods to end this one.

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