Isuzu mu-x

[monbeg]

When I looked at both the C7 would have been nearly $4k cheaper.

The proven engine and transmission in the Isuzu did it for me.
In addition, the C7 torque is apparently measured at 2000 rpm whereas the Isuzu torque is measured across the band of 1800 to 2800 rpm, better for towing.

Both are impressive vehicles for the price range, and I did like that the mirrors fold in automatically when you remove the key (or switch to off ?) in the C7.

Enjoy John.

[DannyG]

The Isuzu engine is a touch 'under powered' in its specs compared to some because it is a very under stressed engine, thats why it has a class leading b10 rating.

People shouldn't get too caught up with specs, or killerwasps and such. At the end of the day we all have to sit on a 100 or 110kph so you can have all the power and fuel usage in the world its not going to offer you a hell of a lot in the real world. Yes its nice to have a ship load of grunt for that rare occasion you need to over take someone up a hill while towing but its few and far between.

Whats important in a diesel for towing in my opinion is a nice linear torque curve, and thats what the Isuzu engine has. It doesn't need a pile of killer wasps or 1000 bert newtons in torque, its power to weight ratio is actually quite good when you compare it to a 200 series cruiser for instance but its linear torque curve from idle is perfect for towing and off roading. And all at less than 9 ltrs per hundred I might add

I should be working for Isuzu Ute Australia

[GeoffA]

Agree with that Danny.
How the numbers are delivered is more important than the numbers themselves.

.......Yes its nice to have a ship load of grunt for that rare occasion you need to over take someone up a hill while towing but its few and far between.

Probably happens with a bit more regularity on the mainland.

Whats important in a diesel for towing in my opinion is a nice linear torque curve, and thats what the Isuzu engine has...

Yep, and the wider and flatter, the better.

And all at less than 9 ltrs per hundred I might add .....

They do very well indeed, even when towing.
Mandrake was seeing sub-10's, loaded up and towing his old hard floor on the 2013 Gulf trip.
Impressive....

[DannyG]

They are no match for a hotted up 4.2 mate but when you get soft and all that hard core 4wheeling is behind you and the need comes to get something shinier they are worth considering......no doubt you'll just polish the mighty GU if you need something shinier

[GeoffA]

I'm a looong way from being a hard core 4wheeler Danny......more a tourer....

An occasional good wash is all it needs....

[fishfinder]

the big 4.2 came across a stick and reversed away from it - if that is hard core 4wd'ng the Isuzu if purchased will only drive on carpet

[DannyG]

the big 4.2 came across a stick and reversed away from it - if that is hard core 4wd'ng the Isuzu if purchased will only drive on carpet

Yes but the big 4.2 went up the hill to find the tree across the road while the prados sat at the bottom scared

[KingBilly]

Group hug

[fishfinder]

Group hug

don't tell him that now he is all excited

[Isuzumu]

don't tell him that now he is all excited

I think you need a Bex and a Coke FF plus a drive in a Isuzu.

[fishfinder]

I used to own a Gemini 

[KingBilly]

I used to own a Gemini 

Certainly living up to your forum name on this thread.  Catching a few too, unlike scarps 

KB

[scarpsD40]

Certainly living up to your forum name on this thread.  Catching a few too, unlike scarps 

KB

lol.....I've got pics too, just waiting for the right time (of year) to post them up.

[Kiwijohn]

Congrats on the Colorado purchase.  Nothing like the smell of a new car 

For your info, and others reading this thread, Isuzu released factory roof bars for the MU-X LSM/U just this week.  No longer an issue when deciding.

KB

Would have changed the spreadsheet and maybe the decision - most likely not as the wife didn't like the Mu-x and as much as I am the decision maker....... 

[ironcobra]

Congrats on the Colorado purchase.  Nothing like the smell of a new car 

For your info, and others reading this thread, Isuzu released factory roof bars for the MU-X LSM/U just this week.  No longer an issue when deciding.

KB

I rang ISUZU yesterday to confirm this, and I got the line that they are scheduled for release mid Feb.... So not sure what to think.?

[UIZ733]

Had a test drive of a MUX yesterday. The salesman said that Holden is ditching their current Colarado 7 motor and gearbox and reverting back to the Isuzu combination. Any truth in this?
I am not stirring just repeating what I was told.

[Nay-DMAX]

Had a test drive of a MUX yesterday. The salesman said that Holden is ditching their current Colarado 7 motor and gearbox and reverting back to the Isuzu combination. Any truth in this?
I am not stirring just repeating what I was told.

I had put a post in here saying I would be surprised if they did this since Isuzu cancelled the partnership due to bringing vehicles here themselves then I could not add a link on my phone after I did a google search on it so here is my new post.  I see KB has posted about it below as well I would of thought Holden would want the engine back too.
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/391F3F9EF7370B57CA257D6B00243A4C

It was the known Isuzu motor that we were interested in when we got ours mind you in 2010 the Colorado still had the Isuzu motor but they were very different to drive the Isuzu felt much better and I had only ever had Holdens before that.

[KingBilly]

Had a test drive of a MUX yesterday. The salesman said that Holden is ditching their current Colarado 7 motor and gearbox and reverting back to the Isuzu combination. Any truth in this?
I am not stirring just repeating what I was told.

That is the rumour.  Story doing the forums is that GM has been regretting dropping the Isuzu motor for the inferior Fiat/Jeep donk due to high warranty costs and lost sales.  No changes probably for a couple of years then Australia will get the 2.5l Euro motor (unfortunately).  But just rumours 

KB

[KingBilly]

I rang ISUZU yesterday to confirm this, and I got the line that they are scheduled for release mid Feb.... So not sure what to think.?

Isuzu published info about their new racks last week (see below link).  Not sure when dealers will have stock but February is only a month away so should not be a deal breaker for anybody wanting a MUX.

KB

[monbeg]

This is going to be difficult for Cadogan, the guy who reckons that you would be better off buying a Kia Sorrento than a MUX.

Extract from one of his advertorials (link below)
"In comparison to the Holden Colorado 7, the Isuzu MU-X also has a dog of an engine: 380Nm for the Isuzu MU-X versus 500Nm for the Colorado. And a five-speed auto in the Isuzu versus a six-speed in the Colorado 7. Woof woof. What were they thinking? The engine's torque production will be critical for towing."

http://autoexpert.com.au/buying-a-car/new-cars/qa/should-i-buy-the-holden-colorado-7-or-the-isuzu-mu-x?rq=isuzu

[DannyG]

I just read the full article and a quick glance at his other articles, wow he really has no idea! Motoring expert LOL

[KingBilly]

http://autoexpert.com.au/buying-a-car/new-cars/qa/should-i-buy-the-holden-colorado-7-or-the-isuzu-mu-x?rq=isuzu

Umm, an interesting discussion

KB

[monbeg]

I just read the full article and a quick glance at his other articles, wow he really has no idea! Motoring expert LOL

That's probably why he is the CH7 resident motoring expert.
He should be right at home there as his expert motoring comments are on a par with Kochie's expert financial advice 

(expert - ex is a has been, spurt is a drip under pressure) 

[Isuzumu]

This tool is one of those people I would love to get the opportunity to talk with and ask where they get their info from and why give this sort of answer. And also who would pay them for the crap they write.

[monbeg]

...
 And also who would pay them for the crap they write.

2UE and CH7 do 

I find this hilarious, looks like he has never been offroad and simply uses power output as a measure of quality, reliability, endurance and handling.

I guess it appeals to the school kid pick up brigade.

http://autoexpert.com.au/buying-a-car/new-cars/qa/which-ute-should-i-buy-holden-colorado-toyota-hilux-or-mitsubishi-triton?rq=ford%20ranger