Content Standards

[GeoffA]

Nah .  stocks and tomatoes like the good old days.   

 

[cm4x4nut]

Im pretty sure he moderators will ,,,errrrrrrrr,, moderate when things get too feral just like they have previously even pg rated movies allow the 'f'bomb these days

Why should it be left to us maintain basic human standards???

If people would self moderate it would make our lives much easier. We are not paid to maintain the standard of the site and as such do not monitior the site 24/7 to make sure people use decnet language and inuendos, we are all volunteers with lives.

People need to take ownership of their own actions.

And I agree, there are a few individuals lately.........some that have been here a long time.........who seam to be deliberatly pushing the boundaries

[Black Diamond]

 

[pommiedic]

For me, there are too many people with the attitude, I'm right and your wrong mentality. Someone makes a valid argument / point / question causing someone ( read sub intelligent) to go into attack dog mode, due to said attack dog not having the brain cell required to intelligently respond. Block the trouble makers IP addresses.

[dazzler]

For me, there are too many people with the attitude, I'm right and your wrong mentality. Someone makes a valid argument / point / question causing someone ( read sub intelligent) to go into attack dog mode, due to said attack dog not having the brain cell required to intelligently respond. Block the trouble makers IP addresses.

Yes, but you are wrong.   

[marvellous_matt]

I like the site and appreciate the effort of those who moderate it and keep it going. I have also been surprised as Ive been spending more time here lately.
From my experience on a few other forums, I have found moderators can be very successful at shaping the 'culture' of what is acceptable, which filters through to most users. Of course you cant keep every one happy all the time. But that is not the aim of the site,(keeping everyone happy) its about sharing information and experiences to promote a common interest. While some people might get their nose out of joint (or leave) when asked to adjust their behaviour, I personally think that is favourable to others being offended or leaving because of others bad behaviour.
It is easy to get carried away in the relatively anonymous world of the internet, before posting I try to ask my self if I would send this message to my Mum or Dad, or my niece, or my boss. If not, It probably shouldn't be posted on the net.

[olddigger]

Matt noted: It is easy to get carried away in the relatively anonymous world of the internet, before posting I try to ask myself if I would send this message to my Mum or Dad, or my niece, or my boss. If not, It probably shouldn't be posted on the net.

Probably a good standard to work to.
To be fair, I don't recall posts on here that used offensive language (but I don't read all posts).

The thing I like most about MySwag is that discussions of what we might call adult subjects (and nothing to do with camping/outdoor life) carry on WITHOUT the sudden censorship that is applied on other forums.

There are broad issues in this nation that affect us all and it's good to see them raised here from time to time in a rational manner. And, after all, we're all big boys and girls now, surely?

I AM NOT defending profanity or personal attacks on posters, but there's no harm in a robust exchange of views so long as it is conducted in a civilised manner.

Cheers, Tony

[alnjan]

x2
I swear as much as anyone I know but I don't see the need to post this in threads to get my message across and I don't see how spelling a word incorrectly makes any difference to the intent.
Starting to feel like UHF40

Yep no need for it here. 

[Bird]

Matt noted: It is easy to get carried away in the relatively anonymous world of the internet, before posting I try to ask myself if I would send this message to my Mum or Dad, or my niece, or my boss. If not, It probably shouldn't be posted on the net.

Probably a good standard to work to.
To be fair, I don't recall posts on here that used offensive language (but I don't read all posts).

The thing I like most about MySwag is that discussions of what we might call adult subjects (and nothing to do with camping/outdoor life) carry on WITHOUT the sudden censorship that is applied on other forums.

There are broad issues in this nation that affect us all and it's good to see them raised here from time to time in a rational manner. And, after all, we're all big boys and girls now, surely?

I AM NOT defending profanity or personal attacks on posters, but there's no harm in a robust exchange of views so long as it is conducted in a civilised manner.

Cheers, Tony

I know one EXPLORingtravel related OZ forum that doesn't even allow "WTF"...
hope this place never gets that sad.. but without an example of what the OP is discussing, its hard to know whats too far and whats not.

[Snow]

It is pretty obvious what too far is on this forum and any post that goes too far will be deleted. If that raises the ire of those that would push the line then tough, and after due warning, they continue will be given a yellow. If that still bites then they get a red, chow.

That's how we roll. 

[cm4x4nut]

I know one EXPLORingtravel related OZ forum that doesn't even allow "WTF"...
hope this place never gets that sad.. but without an example of what the OP is discussing, its hard to know whats too far and whats not.

WTF on its own I have no issues with.

the stuff that is really getting to me lately is the stuff relating to sexuality (hetro and homo) including "prison assumptions" as well as the racism that seams to be creaping in at an astonishing rate. Posts AND pictures

After all, this is STILL a family orientated forum, we are pretty easy going and not overly moderated but as Snow has pointed out, our patience with deleting said posts is wearing thin.

some has asked.....Would I show my parents or kids what I have written? Would I write it in public and stand by it? if the answer is no to either of these........its simple, dont press post.

[D4D]

but without an example of what the OP is discussing, its hard to know whats too far and whats not.

Some of the posts in the Schapelle thread that have since been deleted

Here's one that is still live
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=35597.msg569737#msg569737

the stuff that is really getting to me lately is the stuff relating to sexuality (hetro and homo) including "prison assumptions" as well as the racism that seams to be creaping in at an astonishing rate.

Exactly

[Bird]

Here's one that is still livehttp://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=35597.msg569737#msg569737

nothing in that thread that numerous others haven't said or posted

[Snow]

nothing in that thread that numerous others haven't said or posted

Thanks for editing the post Lost, you are getting the picture now. 

[DannyG]

I think it should be left to the moderators and administrators to decide what moral standards to uphold, not the general population.

Sure everyone is entitled to their opinion but just because one or a few people think somethings crossed the line for children to see doesn't mean the majority agree. Its just an opinion based on a persons moral standards imho so click the 'report to moderators' button and let them deal with it. If your not happy with the way they choose to run the place then don't participate or don't allow your wife/partner/kids to read it

[Bird]

I think some people would be terrified with what 8yr old kids know and say these days with the interwebs... language and more.. I know my 14yr old knows more than I did when I was 25 about the world and girls and things.
I know my mates son who is 9 had his parents called to the school for teaching other kids about bondage just from what he finds on from a google search... 

I think what Danny is saying is what may offend you may not offend others.

[cm4x4nut]

I think what Danny is saying is what may offend you may not offend others.

Hence the reason why we would generally send an email or a PM when a post that requires it has been moderated. This way the people involved can learn what is and is not acceptable

However, when the same people continue to offend.............................

[firefox]

I think it's very simple of the "scale" of what might offend. Consider this..

We have 10000's of Members.. A large number with children, and different views..

If you are writing something, i would always work under the assumption that someone that DOES NOT have the same views as me is going to read it. Therefore if there is a likely chance it "MIGHT" offend someone it probably will.

I have a simple attitude to forums (and life in general)... If it's NOT adding value to a topic or thread, it's NOT worth saying.
It's really that simple. If you're not adding value (i.e being helpful, enjoying a topic, making a simple joke) then don't say it.

Feel free to use the PM system, if you want to say something and feel it might be misread on the forum.

I love the openness of the forum, and the great conversations people have, just be mindful everyone thinks differently and the preference to not going around being negative, and being offensive.

To previous comments about the Mod team doing clean up's..

I DISLIKE removing threads. People need to be mindful of what you are writing. This is NOT a place for keyboard warriors! If the mod team had to try and clean up after everyone that would be a full-time job for 2-3 people, do we really want to try and raise that type of money! Nope..

As some would say..
Think before you post!

[lino6]

A timely reminder.

Sometimes I get a bit caught up in the forum. I have met a number of members here and have shared a joke with them in person. Sometimes I need to remind myself this isn't Facebook, so what I say is to 14000 members, not just the 5 or 6 people I am "friends" with on FB. So the head has been pulled back in and hopefully I never get one of those PMs from the mods!

 

[Barry G]

The days of homophobia being seen as 'acceptable' in any context should be considered G O N E.

Aside from the several openly homosexual members who are active participants on the forum, there would no doubt be many who have not disclosed their preferences.  I would imagine that both groups would find the homophobic posts hurtful and exclusionary.  Can't imagine that such posts from forum members would encourage these members to participate in forum catch-ups either.  No doubt, like me, most 'straight' swaggers just find such posts an embarrassment.

Lots of helpful people on the forum, however there can be a tendency to 'redneck' as 'normal' among a loud but small minority. Sad but true.
And yes, I do get irony / tongue in cheek as a concept - but don't think it excuses in this context.
Will be interesting to see how long it takes for me to be abused for being 'politically correct' / 'pinkwashed' for posting this.

[Lori]

I am  glad that the forum is having an open discussion on this subject.

Originally I frequented a different oz camping forum, but found a few members were doing the majority of the posting and what they had to say was usually negatively aggressive towards to OP (usually making the OP feel silly for asking such a basic question) and were aggressive to anyone who ventured to have a different opinion, the result being that many people stopped bothering to post, the OPs original question would go unanswered and the thread would go off topic and not return. The case of a few ruining it for the many. That site is now heavily moderated, I can only guess that it was to try stamp out the above behavior and try keep it a community focused site.
Because of the behavior at the above mentioned site, I chose to quietly move on (I did not bring any particular posts to the attention of the moderator, what was the point? the forum was full of similar posts)

When I found myswag (maybe four years ago now) I found it to be great, everyone was easy going, conflict happened rarely and usually was sorted out by the people involved fairly quickly without the need for intervention, I was floored by the difference between the two forums, apart from the theme of camping and 4WDs the two forums were as different as night and day. And to this day I find the majority of the members still enjoy the same feeling of enjoying a discussion, sharing their knowledge and the friendly atmosphere this forum has radiated.
However, in the past 6 months or so I have noticed an increased level of agitation within the forum, more people attacking others for having different points of view, making jokes at the expense of other members, language that would surely take more effort to type than not type and the posting of topics that just dont belong on this forum (not everything has to be camping related, we all enjoy discussing a variety of topics. but come on, use some common sense in what you post.)

Remember the moderators do this because they enjoy what they do, what happens when they stop enjoying it?

[Patr80l]

Self regulation at work:
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=35777.0

[dazzler]

The days of homophobia being seen as 'acceptable' in any context should be considered G O N E.

Aside from the several openly homosexual members who are active participants on the forum, there would no doubt be many who have not disclosed their preferences.  I would imagine that both groups would find the homophobic posts hurtful and exclusionary.  Can't imagine that such posts from forum members would encourage these members to participate in forum catch-ups either.  No doubt, like me, most 'straight' swaggers just find such posts an embarrassment.

Lots of helpful people on the forum, however there can be a tendency to 'redneck' as 'normal' among a loud but small minority. Sad but true.
And yes, I do get irony / tongue in cheek as a concept - but don't think it excuses in this context.
Will be interesting to see how long it takes for me to be abused for being 'politically correct' / 'pinkwashed' for posting this.

Very accurate and well said.

I get rather annoyed when people post racist / homophobic and nationalistic pride posts with no substance or evidence as to why they think that way. 

Sometimes I think there is a time for people to move on, particularly once the percentage of their posts are heavily in the non CT threads.

Strangely we seem to be becoming more red neck as the years go by. 

 

[dazzler]

Self regulation at work:
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=35777.0

You clever sod!

[RLI]

G’day folks,

I really thought this thread was serious, however, after spending several hours perusing numerous threads on this forum, past as well as present. I have to laugh at the hypocrisy on this thread by those whingeing. lol

Some of these folks over the last twelve months have been extremely inflammatory and derogatory to various individuals across our mainstream society. ( i just love the false virtue, lol ) Typically the person who goes to church but does not believe in god or the person who is vegetarians on a moral basis but however, likes to where a wear leather jackets and leather boots. lol

PS, as a former soldier, I have no time for hypocrites!

Regards,

RLI