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Sandblasting bars and sliders
« on: January 15, 2014, 11:01:20 AM »
The front bar and rear bar could do with a tidy up. The front is a TJM, which in reality had a Shit finish from new, but being complacent I just put up with it as I got it cheap

Anyone got a contact for getting bars sandblasted and undercoated ready for paint in SE Melbourne?

Any ideas what it would cost??
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2014, 11:20:57 AM »
Don't know about Melbourne, but I had a 12m extendable trailer blasted and pained for my work.

The bill for the blasting and painting came in under $1000. There was a fair bit of work involved and would have been a couple of days work on and off so I thought the price was unbelievably low. But he did a great job considering the price he charged.

Probably no help to you, but gives you a bit of an idea what us country folk pay.
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2014, 12:57:38 PM »
Nobody does this at work for beer ??? ??? ???
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2014, 05:16:26 PM »
Sand it back by hand and paint it yourself?

I've done a few bars now and get good results by sanding back bad scratches and rubbing over the rest with a heavy duty scrourer.  I've used a compressor and spray equipment, spraycans, and now just uses a cheap airless sprayer (good results with less mucking about than a proper spray gun).  I use a 50/50 mix of flat and gloss black rustproofing paint to give me a satin look(though you may be able to buy it in satin these days). 

Auto acrylic out of a can gives a less-than-full-gloss finish unless you cut it back, but looks close to a powdercoated finish.  This is UV stabilised and you can match body colour.  But pressure paks are an expensive way to do it.
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2014, 05:48:03 PM »
Don't know how I missed this one.
Honestly if your just chasing a black finish thats quite tough, the most effective way I have found so far on bars and such is the following.

Scotch brite the entire bar and get rid of all the shine off the powder coat.
(sand smooth and flaking or chipping)
Wash clean.
Wipe with tack cloth.
Paint with VHT WHEEL PAINT. http://www.vhtpaint.com/products/wheelpaint/

It is that simple. Great finish, lays flat and no need to worry about peel.

All up on the bull bar on the troll I used about 6-8 cans to get a nice tough finish, and just followed the directions. (that was inside and out though)
At about ($15ish) it should work out at no more than $150 in materials. Plus none for labor.
So all in all nice and easy.

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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 06:14:37 PM »
Quote from: evolution on January 25, 2014, 05:48:03 PM
Don't know how I missed this one.
Honestly if your just chasing a black finish thats quite tough, the most effective way I have found so far on bars and such is the following.

Scotch brite the entire bar and get rid of all the shine off the powder coat.
(sand smooth and flaking or chipping)
Wash clean.
Wipe with tack cloth.
Paint with VHT WHEEL PAINT. http://www.vhtpaint.com/products/wheelpaint/

It is that simple. Great finish, lays flat and no need to worry about peel.

All up on the bull bar on the troll I used about 6-8 cans to get a nice tough finish, and just followed the directions. (that was inside and out though)
At about ($15ish) it should work out at no more than $150 in materials. Plus none for labor.
So all in all nice and easy.

Cheers
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that would be sweet if it works that easy.
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2014, 06:22:10 PM »
My sliders were looking shabby. I wiped them with prep-wash, masked where needed, then hit them with some Squirts gloss enamel from Bunnings. Sliders will end up looking sad after a while, so no need to go to any real trouble there.....

I did them on the car....
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2014, 06:26:16 PM »
Quote from: Lost on January 25, 2014, 06:14:37 PM
that would be sweet if it works that easy.

It really is that easy. The hardest bit on my patrol was grinding the bloody bolts off as some numpty had rounded them all off for some bloody reason.
took nearly 6 hours to get it off...........

mine still looks pretty good IMO. The biggest trick I did learn from experience is to make sure you really hit it good with the scotch brite and sand it well.
Powder coat when shiny doesn't give a good finish with the VHT paint. Just try not to take it all off. Effectively Its using the powder coat as a primer.
Ill see if I can get a photo up of how the bar looks now for you.

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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2014, 11:52:00 AM »
Ok... more on this..
http://www.kevspowdercoating.com.au/ which is down my way :)

$300 blasting and powdercoating for Roofrack, or bullbar.
Sound ok?
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2014, 01:05:04 PM »
Quote from: Lost on March 18, 2014, 11:52:00 AM
Ok... more on this..
http://www.kevspowdercoating.com.au/ which is down my way :)

$300 blasting and powdercoating for Roofrack, or bullbar.
Sound ok?


Bloomin good I reckon.

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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2014, 01:48:12 PM »
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Bloomin good I reckon.
Yea sounded ok... just not a fan of when easily powdercoating chips and then keeps going :(
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2014, 01:57:10 PM »
Sounds like a good price I think.

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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2014, 09:39:40 PM »
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Sounds like a good price I think.
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2014, 07:01:44 AM »
RICK said on american restoration that powder coating makes a great undercoat.


so if you are clean up ya bars to paint them, then just clean off the rust, sand back the powdercoating, then paint..

but if you are going to get it repowder coated, then ignore the above.


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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2014, 09:47:28 AM »
Quote from: Brumbypt on March 19, 2014, 07:01:44 AM
RICK said on american restoration that powder coating makes a great undercoat.


so if you are clean up ya bars to paint them, then just clean off the rust, sand back the powdercoating, then paint..

but if you are going to get it repowder coated, then ignore the above.


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From personal experience I have found if the powder coating is compromised then the corrosion will travel under the powder coating and you will forever have problems. Best to get it completley stripped & repainted/coated.
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2014, 11:49:33 AM »
yes I agree fully, and thats what I did..

But I thought it was interesting what RICK said on the show.


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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2014, 01:04:46 PM »
Lost, give the boys at JMC Powdercoating a ring, Phil 9792 9511, they are in Johnson Crt Dandenong, they did my ute hardtop and my bar after I fitted the fog lights to it, they dont do sand blasting, got that done by one of the mobs in Ordish Rd, cant remember their name. JMC do a lot of  the service bodies, I have found them good to deal with.  Going to get them to do the new ski boat trailer when I get around to building it, they are into 4wheeling as well, at least the old man is

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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2014, 07:21:17 PM »
For dirt cheap powder coating try Conbatch in bayswater. Way cheaper than anyone else I have found.
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2014, 02:03:24 PM »
Quote from: GeoffA on January 25, 2014, 06:22:10 PM
My sliders were looking shabby. I wiped them with prep-wash, masked where needed, then hit them with some Squirts gloss enamel from Bunnings. Sliders will end up looking sad after a while, so no need to go to any real trouble there.....


Agreed, I've just resprayed 2 roof baskets with British Paints Satin Black and you'd be hard pressed to tell it from powder coat. Bonus is you can touch up as often as you like to keep them looking like new and it is cheap. http://www.bunnings.com.au/british-paints-310g-spray-easy-satin-black_p1580723
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2014, 06:34:55 PM »
Quote from: Beatle on January 25, 2014, 05:16:26 PM
Sand it back by hand and paint it yourself?

I've done a few bars now and get good results by sanding back bad scratches and rubbing over the rest with a heavy duty scrourer.  I've used a compressor and spray equipment, spraycans, and now just uses a cheap airless sprayer (good results with less mucking about than a proper spray gun).  I use a 50/50 mix of flat and gloss black rustproofing paint to give me a satin look(though you may be able to buy it in satin these days). 

Auto acrylic out of a can gives a less-than-full-gloss finish unless you cut it back, but looks close to a powdercoated finish.  This is UV stabilised and you can match body colour.  But pressure paks are an expensive way to do it.

I did this to my 2nd hand arb bar. Only I used 2 PAC satin black.
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2015, 08:03:17 AM »
Well found a place in Dandenong that will do
He says to get sandblasted at http://abrasivesandblasting.com/ then take to him...

- Bullbar - powder coating $120
- Kaymar rear bar - powder coating $120
- Full length roof rack - powder coating $120

Haven't done it yet, but those prices are bargains I reckon

Dude I spoke with on the phone was Ben

JMC Powder Coating
7 Johnston Ct
(03) 9792 9511
Open until 4:00 PM

he was actually recommended to me by Vince on here.
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Re: Sandblasting bars and sliders
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2015, 08:05:54 AM »
Quote from: Bird on November 12, 2015, 08:03:17 AM
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Haven't done it yet, but those prices are bargains I reckon
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They look good to me. What are you waiting for??
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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2015, 08:08:33 AM »
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They look good to me. What are you waiting for??

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« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2016, 08:03:49 PM »
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Ok... more on this..
http://www.kevspowdercoating.com.au/ which is down my way :)

$300 blasting and powdercoating for Roofrack, or bullbar.
Sound ok?

Took it down there today... be ready in a week..
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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2016, 08:21:26 PM »
My bullbar and rear bar are getting done as well. But I chose paint instead of powder coat. Hence I'm paying more than $300. But should look good when done.

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