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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2014, 07:38:48 AM »
if it was on fire, they would just throw a chain around anything and drag it the **** out of the way! not like they can damage it worse than the fire.

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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2014, 08:01:39 AM »
when i stay at caravan parks i first ask if there are any powered tent sites.........if not and its only say two nights than i just book a tent/up-powered site.....any longer i book a powere site, in saying that my CT fit quite well on a powered site reserved in the normal way

geez what are you guys goinf to say when the caravan parks asks to to un-hitch your camper so they can tow it to your site and reverse it in for you.....my parants have come across two parks that do this for all trailers

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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2014, 08:08:12 AM »
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my parants have come across two parks that do this for all trailers
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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2014, 08:20:08 AM »
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geez what are you guys goinf to say when the caravan parks asks to to un-hitch your camper so they can tow it to your site and reverse it in for you.....

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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2014, 08:23:51 AM »
Tis a strange rule probably in keeping, as a poster says, in line with WHS issues.

I suppose they own the caravan park and make the rules they like.  Like em or lump em or vote with your feet I suppose.

The thing I cant stand is spots all lined up in a row like we a war camp.  Love the ones that are scattered around like the more remote national parks. 


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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2014, 08:36:03 AM »
We have stayed at a few parks around Tassie and several on the mainland including a couple of big ones at Alice and Darwin and even the camp grounds at Yalara and we always turn our camper around by hand so the back faces the direction we want and we have never been told we shouldn't. Im not sure if its luck or they were just not game to say anything once they saw the size of our tent LOL
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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2014, 08:37:21 AM »
Which parks?

rainbow beach is one (the sites closest to the surf).........dont know the other

it doesn't bother my parants as they well into retirement

i have a DO 35 therefore i doubt they would be able to hook up..but if they did it wouldn't bother me...so they tow my trailer for 100m


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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2014, 08:44:32 AM »
Which parks?
Hastings point Big4 in northern NSW.. But they ask you if you'd like to unhitch and they can put it into position..
And they've got every hitch available..
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« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2014, 08:53:01 AM »
EDIT...bloody Clouty just beat me to it...lol
Which parks?
the Big 4 at Hastings Point does this though i don't believe it's mandatory, Xmas 2012 i parked my camper onsite myself but most caravanners and plenty with camper trailers just unhitch at the front gate. it was a tight squeeze to back in where i was that time (due to a cabin across the street coming right out to the road), so anyone with a van around 17ft or bigger would have trouble backing it on site due to their size. there's some skinny streets at the back of the park you'd have little chance of swinging back into, though where we stayed for the meet up last year has heaps of room to easily do it yourself. the tractor has all the different hitch set up's also, so it's 100 times easier for people to unhitch at the gate and let the tractor do it easily for them. below is a pic of the tractor doing it's thing at the park

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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2014, 09:29:19 AM »
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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2014, 09:56:23 AM »
its fine to not accept the rules and choose not to stay at the CP that you have booked if it not what you require...

but just think, lets say you arrive later than planned because you did some site seeing along the way and you pull up just before dark and you stick to your guns and not stay at the caravan park because your trailer doesnt suit the site configuration of the park..........there may not be another option and this may cause extra stress on the family at the wrong end of the day

instead of the words avoid, maybe a suggestion to member is to ask the quesiton prior to booking

and yes i do understand the issues softfloor CT canhave if they have a lot of canvass hanging off the side....seen plenty spin the trialer 90 degrees

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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2014, 10:03:01 AM »
the day we need someone to reverse our trailers is the day we hand over our testicles....life over, get me a drool bib!


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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2014, 10:05:27 AM »
the day we need someone to reverse our trailers is the day we hand over our testicles....life over, get me a drool bib!


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have seen plenty of what look like seasoned travellers taking 4, 5, 6 attempts and still not close to the slab.....you would think the would get better

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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2014, 10:08:10 AM »
Tis entertaining though!


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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2014, 10:16:23 AM »
Tis entertaining though!


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i felt sorry for one couple the other year, i reckon they spent the best part of an hour just getting their van positoned

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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2014, 10:18:38 AM »
Pt Vincent caravan park applied this rule probably 10 or more years ago.  Prior to that all the foreshore vans had their hitches toward the beach, and when the rule was first applied the long time visitors (and I mean people who had been going for decades) were up in arms about the new policy.  Eventually most people just accepted it - from a safety perspective it is common sense.  If you need to move a lot of vans quickly, it makes sense to have the hitch readily accessible.

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« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2014, 10:20:56 AM »
....."good-bye"......

Really? I'm not having a go, but is this really a big issue? Let them reverse it in while you open a beer!!

Personally I am fine reversing mine into just about anywhere, but if a park insists, let them at it!

They have insurance, if they break it they fix it...

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« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2014, 10:23:05 AM »
Also, we generally avoid caravan parks but on longer trips we end up going to one once a week or so for showers etc.

in WA the only one we have come across that enforce the hitch to the road rule is the Peoples Caravan Park in Coral Bay. I know this regulation exists for all but this is the only one we have come across that enforces it (and I am sure there are more)

Other caravan parks seem to put it in their fine print but never bother enforcing.

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« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2014, 10:54:22 AM »
the day we need someone to reverse our trailers is the day we hand over our testicles....life over, get me a drool bib!


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So when you do it stuff it up and then cop all the insurance claims you will be next complaining that the raod was too narrow. If there is someone there that does it every day and by letting them do it they take liability sorry i am the oppsite they can go for it

As for the draw bar it was explained to me that is was actually gas bottle location meaning that if you have you camper draw bar in and i am opposite you with my camper draw bar out my exit point is then blocked if you gas bottle ignites as i would be extigint the rear of my camper

Same principal applies to caravans as most have the door to the rear so if your gas bottle goes up i am basically going to run out straight into your fire. If both draw bars are facing out ocupants can exit to the rear and then go between other sites to leave the vicinity
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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2014, 11:09:25 AM »
We try at Caravan parks to go for corner sites if there is a slab - that way we can bet sit the camper on the site - not the way they intended but still allows for hitch to be point to the road.
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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2014, 07:53:07 PM »
As for the draw bar it was explained to me that is was actually gas bottle location meaning that if you have you camper draw bar in and i am opposite you with my camper draw bar out my exit point is then blocked if you gas bottle ignites as i would be extigint the rear of my camper

Same principal applies to caravans as most have the door to the rear so if your gas bottle goes up i am basically going to run out straight into your fire. If both draw bars are facing out ocupants can exit to the rear and then go between other sites to leave the vicinity

My gas bottles are towards the rear of my camper, so this logic is flawed....

I think it is a stupid rule, and I avoid caravan parks like chicken pox!

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« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2014, 09:48:04 AM »

So when you do it stuff it up and then cop all the insurance claims you will be next complaining that the raod was too narrow. If there is someone there that does it every day and by letting them do it they take liability sorry i am the oppsite they can go for it

As for the draw bar it was explained to me that is was actually gas bottle location meaning that if you have you camper draw bar in and i am opposite you with my camper draw bar out my exit point is then blocked if you gas bottle ignites as i would be extigint the rear of my camper

Same principal applies to caravans as most have the door to the rear so if your gas bottle goes up i am basically going to run out straight into your fire. If both draw bars are facing out ocupants can exit to the rear and then go between other sites to leave the vicinity


Really?  Is life this dangerous and drivers this incompetent?

Their explanation to you is crap. If gas bottled ignite they go BOOM! and destroy everything around them.

The only serious WHS issue is the lack of control that an unhitched van/trailer has when unhitched.

Would love to see their SWiMS.




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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2014, 09:54:53 AM »
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Really? I'm not having a go, but is this really a big issue? Let them reverse it in while you open a beer!!

Personally I am fine reversing mine into just about anywhere, but if a park insists, let them at it!

They have insurance, if they break it they fix it...
I have insurance too... I quite easily reversed semi's for a living for over decade, my camper is a piece of piss...
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« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2014, 10:46:19 AM »
Really?  Is life this dangerous and drivers this incompetent?

Their explanation to you is crap. If gas bottled ignite they go BOOM! and destroy everything around them.

The only serious WHS issue is the lack of control that an unhitched van/trailer has when unhitched.

Would love to see their SWiMS.

Yeah like i said just going what was passed on to me in the end it probably stems from some council ranger trippled over a peg and claimed compo




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Re: Caravan Park force tow bar to road?? Avoid Pt Vincent Foreshore CP
« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2014, 11:57:03 AM »
the big 4 at haisting point are great, not only up camper up on site but also pulled it down onto road when leaving,  reversing mine is not a problem just the 600mm rise to the level site, bit much for my longreach ute, plenty of grass torn up from 4x4 s backing in in 2x4,
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