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Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« on: December 31, 2013, 11:36:04 PM »
After blowing a head gasket 200ks south of Coral Bay and waiting for 4 hrs for a tow in 50 degrees + with the wife and 4 kids I was more than a little disgusted with the 50+ cars that drove passed without so much as stopping to see if we where alright. Yes we had plenty of water and yes help was on the way but how hard is it to slow down and ask , you don't have to get out of your car you don't even have to turn your car off... So much for the Aussie Spirit and looking out for each other   >:( >:( >:( >:(

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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2014, 12:25:56 AM »
Unfortunately it's the way society has gone.

I personally would try to assist where I can, but it depends on what the people who are broken down act like as I'm approaching them, as to whether or not if I got out of the vehicle.

But honestly if I was driving past you in this circumstance then without a doubt I would stop and offer my assistance even if it was only water and food.

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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2014, 12:58:45 AM »
The Aussie spirit is still here,just not in the same quantity as it once was.I'll always slow down,or stop to see if someone needs a hand.If they see you slowing and they're ok,you'll get waved on. Motorcycle riders are probably better at this because being a minority group on the road most riders  tend to look out for each other just that little bit harder. 

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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2014, 01:13:31 AM »
G'day Top.ender :cheers:, I reckon that's coz you live in WA, Mrs T & I are easterners and we always stop, and often see others stop too.   :angel: 
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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2014, 06:22:51 AM »
I can understand that a lot of people worry about wierdo,s out there
If i seen a Family would stop no problem

I had a flat tyre about 30 kms from town once and could not wind the chain down for the spare a few cars drove by then a ute with a single lady occuant pulled up she talked to me with window up and doors locked and was very reluctant to give me a lift to town untill i showed her my two year old son was with me in the car, now i would not have blamed her if she drove by i can understand some people,s concern but she took precautions seen we where a family and all was good

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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2014, 07:10:14 AM »
Yep had a similar thing happen to me on the recent forum meet, on our way across the mountain to the coast, I did a tyre on the CT, which had us changing it on the side of a very narrow, windy road, on a piece of dirt no bigger then a tent site, we got the job done, but out of all the people who drove past, one person stopped and asked if wanted help.

By that time though I was putting wheel nuts back on to get going, so didn't need help.

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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2014, 08:03:06 AM »
I try & stop for people when I can. Even if it's just to ask they are o.k.
Have even stopped to help a fellow truck driver to change a tyre & I wasn't even in the truck. He appreciated very much, stinking hot day. I pulled up one day to a young lady sitting on the side of the road with a flat & she's got the phone out walking around in circles (trying to get reception), offered to change the flat only for her to say she doesn't have a wheel brace. Luckily mine fitted.
I'm a big believer in swings and roundabouts. One day if I need a hand I'd like to think that someone will stop & help.
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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2014, 08:08:34 AM »
G'day Top.ender :cheers:, I reckon that's coz you live in WA, Mrs T & I are easterners and we always stop, and often see others stop too.   :angel:

Wow. That's a big generalisation!  We would always stop to see if someone needs a hand.

I agree that there is a general change in community attitude to just worrying about oneself, but I dont think you can assume everyone is like that.

I think that if the person on the side of the road looks as though they have everything under control, then some people may choose not to stop and check/help.

But it takes 20 seconds out of your day to slow down or stop and check, so that is what we do.

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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2014, 08:31:51 AM »
Interesting discussion, we blew two tires a couple of days ago in the space of about 15 minutes in 40 deg; no-one stopped... BUT we were on a single carriage way 110kph stretch about 150km south of Parks, and we were barely pulled off the road as there was minimal verge.  We were all busy, probably looked like we knew what we were doing, kids posted as lookouts in case someone didn't see us and was about to clean me up.  So I understood why no-one stopped.  I did however feel very confident that if we did have a problem, a request on uhf18 would have had a fellow camper/caravan pulling up in short order.

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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2014, 08:46:24 AM »
We stopped for several broken down cars we came across on our trip to Darwin a while back, one woman we came across said the same thing though... she'd been there for over 40 minutes with heaps of vehicles going past, yet nobody would stop. Woman on her own standing beside a vehicle with the bonnet up on the Stuart Hwy, atleast 50 klms from the nearest tiny town.  Not hard to work out she needed help
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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2014, 09:04:29 AM »
It's the way our western society is headed I am afraid. Community spirit is slowly dying as we become more and more individualised in our outlook and behaviour. It's starting to be every man for himself now sadly for a lot of people.....we are losing the ability to even reach out and say g'day to strangers let alone stop and help them in need.
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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2014, 09:08:09 AM »
Wow. That's a big generalisation!

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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2014, 09:09:19 AM »
Depends on where you are.

Traveling the top end, you often come across some of the "locals" on the side of the road.

The safe thing to do I keep driving, and this is coming from the local copper.

A mate of mine towed a broken down car 85km to the nearest servo, he wasn't broken down, he didn't have a motor. The servo owner said he does this about once a month to get a free ride into town.
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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2014, 09:12:57 AM »
....... Sadly there's no winky icon to show "no hard feelings".

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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2014, 09:18:55 AM »
east v west rivalry

Oh, that old chestnut!  ::)  It's all good  ;)

I think the demise of community spirit is very sad indeed, but I also get a sense that the tide will turn. There is such a growing awareness of the importance of community, that maybe it will return.  It all starts with us as individuals.  Including simple things likes stopping to check if someone on the side of the road needs help. One day they may pay forward that favour.

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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2014, 09:30:35 AM »
I'm very cautious about pulling off to the side of any highway for toilet stops for the kids, as quite a few people have died being hit by distracted drivers while changing tyres etc on side of highways. Not long ago a guy died after being struck because he pulled over to help a lady change a tyre, near the Gold Coast on the highway.

I would assess the situation for safety before just pulling over and immediately helping. Might sound selfish, but especially if I have the kids with me, I wouldn't put them in any danger unnecessarily.
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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2014, 09:43:59 AM »
Just a question, but I see your profile pic is a troopy with "off road tours" written on the side.

General assumption is that commercial travellers are better equipped than most ordinary folk at dealing with any issues ?

But I would have at least slowed until waved on, or flagged down.
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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2014, 09:44:55 AM »
G'day Top.ender :cheers:, I reckon that's coz you live in WA, Mrs T & I are easterners and we always stop, and often see others stop too.   :angel:
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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2014, 09:45:33 AM »
I understand peoples reluctance to stop however this is what i do, and have done twice in the last 18 months

If i see someone that looks as if they need a hand I always slow down and drive by first, give them a thumbs up or down, gives me an indication whether they seem ok or not, do a u turn and approach from a safe distance, make contact etc and go from there, your not obliged to stop and help but im a firm believer that ill always do what i can as one day if im ever in the same situation i would certainly like help.

Last year while on our way up to the Ord river muster we came across a older couple i would say in their 50's, had a troopy and were pulled over about 40km short of the wilaire roadhouse between Broome and Derby, i saw a blown tyre already on their spare wheel and a blown rear left.  they had been there for 2 hours and several cars trucks had passed by, they looked a little distressed, we turned around assesed the situation etc, they were a lovely couple and were headed up to the ord river muster also, so after a discussion and removing his two blown tyres, i strapped them onto the roof of my Camper trailer and headed off to find some tyres for him, we also took his wife with us as she looked a little distressed, we made sure he had plenty of water (and beer), i was expecting to find some tyres at Willaire roadhouse so was expecting we would be back in a couple of hours, however they had nothing so we continued on to Derby, the local tyre guy there was brilliant and sorted her out and even though i was prepared to return back to the man and his troopy with his new tyres, the local tyre guy did and we continued on our travels, we made sure befroe we left willaire though that a guy in a truck heading south would contact the man when he passed him to let him know that we had to continue on to Derby for tyres, it would have been well into the dark before they got back to him.

Just hope one day if i ever need help ill get someone with the Aussie spirit to help out.

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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2014, 09:52:51 AM »
Just a question, but I see your profile pic is a troopy with "off road tours" written on the side.

General assumption is that commercial travellers are better equipped than most ordinary folk at dealing with any issues ?

But I would have at least slowed until waved on, or flagged down.
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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2014, 09:58:03 AM »
the real lesson that I'm taking out of this is how proud I am of my resilient family :cup:.... even miss 16 coped fairly well..not to much complaining really... ;D ;D

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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2014, 10:16:14 AM »
Well I can honestly say that the spirit of willing to help is alive up on the Fraser coast, came off Teewah beach heading home from Fraser and pulled off the road to air up, Had to lift the bonnet on the Rocky to power up the compressor .
Out of the dozen or so trucks that came past, had at least ten stop to see if we were ok  ... Guessing they took a bit of pity on us going by the looks of the old Rocket after ten years of beach work, still it was nice to see they cared  ..Thumbs up QLD'rs .
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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2014, 10:29:33 AM »
About two years ago I noticed a lady on the side of the road with a flat tyre, I pulled over to offer some help and was promptly told that she was fine and could change it herself. She went on about how she reckoned i only pulled over because she was female and that I would haven't stopped if it was a guy. I was speechless, got back in my car and drove off.

The Aussie spirit still lives in some of us, but some of us are a little gun shy of offering help.

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Re: Wheres the Aussie Spirit gone??
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2014, 10:30:11 AM »
..not to much complaining really... ;D ;D

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« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2014, 11:04:40 AM »
About two years ago I noticed a lady on the side of the road with a flat tyre, I pulled over to offer some help and was promptly told that she was fine and could change it herself. She went on about how she reckoned i only pulled over because she was female and that I would haven't stopped if it was a guy. I was speechless, got back in my car and drove off.

The Aussie spirit still lives in some of us, but some of us are a little gun shy of offering help.

Reminds me of a story I was told that at a function a male opened a door for a female to be told that she was able to open the door same as a man & spat on him.

He promptly knocked her on her rrrss & said fine and that's what I would do to another man if he spat on me.

Not sure of the accuracy but it is good yarn any way.

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