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The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« on: December 20, 2013, 11:23:39 AM »
Cal and Bud Car rollover 14 December 2013


Properly fitted child restraint and the absence of a cargo barrier in a roll
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2013, 11:45:06 AM »
ouch.
They are lucky to come out of it so well, missing all the roadside furniture.
Shows how much stuff gets thrown around the cabin without the barrier.

Thanks Treads, a timely reminder of how quick this can happen.
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 12:08:07 PM »
Why I have cargo barriers in all 3 of my wagons, Subaru Outback, Jackaroo and VW Type 3 'Variant'.
The only reason that we don't have one in the Santa Fe is that it is used as a 7 seater.
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 12:14:37 PM »
Cargo barriers not only keep stuff where it is supposed to be but helps keep the roof up in a full roll over.
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 12:27:44 PM »
Wow, as a parent that was very disturbing. Thankfully both were ok
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2013, 12:42:56 PM »
So glad that kid was strapped in properly (and his seat correctly attached too).  Just goes to show what a rag doll you could become without the wearing of seatbelts.  And a cargo barrier is really a no brainer after seeing this!!
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2013, 01:13:50 PM »

very lucky indeed!
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2013, 01:46:14 PM »
Am I right in thinking that he blames a kangaroo and the road conditions for this accident?

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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2013, 01:53:07 PM »
Just goes to show you never know what might happen. I bet this bloke didn't wake up in the morning and think he would be in an accident. I'm glad there was no serious injuries.

Timely reminder for us all to stay safe on the roads, and anywhere for that matter.
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2013, 01:53:39 PM »
Any thoughts on why the wipers came on just before the accident?
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2013, 01:56:02 PM »
Quote from: Goose on December 20, 2013, 01:53:39 PM
Any thoughts on why the wipers came on just before the accident?

Probably knocked them when he was trying to correct the steering I would think. I knock mine on all the time in the car accidentally and I'm not trying to regain control  :D
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2013, 02:03:37 PM »
So so very lucky not to have gone into the trees ...
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2013, 02:14:39 PM »
Firstly Treads, I would like to express how glad I am in ensuring your child was safely secured in the correct restraint. And yes, cargo barriers are a must, but lets not forget about the other heavy objects we sometimes forget we place in front of them.
But that said, what happened to driving to the conditions? What if a car came around the corner toward you and you had to veer left to avoid it? Were you aware of the condition of the whole road? Or just the bit you were driving on.
How about we all slow down a little bit and have a safe Christmas.
I apologize if I come across as a bit harsh, but as an ex interstate truck driver, I have seen more than my share or carnage on the road.
 Have a safe and happy Christmas Treads, and I hope your arm heals well. It looks nasty.
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2013, 02:38:44 PM »
Did I miss something? I thought Treads was posting the vid as an education to us re what could happen as a reminder for us all to consider our own rigs and what could happen in a vehicle roll over.

I didn't for a second think Treads was the driver of said vehicle.

That aside, you do make a valid point or two, just mis directed to the bloke who posted the vid on here that's all. 
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2013, 04:10:52 PM »
I didn't get the impression that Treads was the driver either.

Anyway, I am going shopping for the Prado next week in Adelaide, and a cargo barrier was one of the items high up on my list. After seeing this, the wife has suddenly said that safety is more important than money....
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2013, 04:20:49 PM »
My sincere heartfelt apologies to Tread. I had obviously picked up the blunt end of the stick there. I did not mean any malice toward you. I just get a little uptight when I see people driving beyond their abilities and putting themselves and others in danger. I wish you all a safe and happy xmas.
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2013, 04:48:34 PM »
Quote from: Pogasauras on December 20, 2013, 04:10:52 PM
I didn't get the impression that Treads was the driver either.

Anyway, I am going shopping for the Prado next week in Adelaide, and a cargo barrier was one of the items high up on my list. After seeing this, the wife has suddenly said that safety is more important than money....

If that's the case upgraded suspension for better stability, bullbar for front end protection, awning for sun protection etc etc etc. Good times ahead ;)


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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2013, 05:17:07 PM »
Still trying to see the roo in the vid.

First lesson in driving on country roads,  don't swerve for a roo, rabbit, wombat, or any other native wildlife.

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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2013, 05:22:30 PM »
Have had the same type of loss of control on a good quality dirt road outside Narrabri. Fortunately it did not result in a rollover but still when the rear end slides down and out from an excessive centre peak (approx 800mm high in the centre, road 5m wide) at 80kmh it is a butt clencher.

The solution was to put the vehicle into 4wd and drive to the camber, not just the middle.
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2013, 05:28:28 PM »
or he cold have just slowed down and driven on the correct side of the road and he wouldn't have gotten into that situation in the first place, would have made for an interesting accident if a family in a little japcrap mobil was coming the other way around a bend or even a guy a a motor bike
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2013, 05:42:35 PM »
There are a lot of assumptions being made here, my initial reply may seem harsh, as have others. It all gets back to driving to the conditions in the initial circumstances, and expecting the unexpected.

Treads may or may have not been the driver, vehicle safety devices may or may not have lead to a better or worse outcome, the driver may have had a long day and was not concentrating.

We have all probable been in similar circumstances, things happen so quickly.

Take care on gravel roads.

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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2013, 05:45:05 PM »
Looking at the first 30secs, seems speed was a little high, but more likely the peak in the centre and marble gravel surface caused the rear end lose.
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2013, 06:21:32 PM »
Quote from: Jon on December 20, 2013, 05:45:05 PM
Looking at the first 30secs, seems speed was a little high, but more likely the peak in the centre and marble gravel surface caused the rear end lose.
Sorry,I see nothing abnormal here,except excessive speed!
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2013, 06:34:55 PM »
You lot need to get ya eyes checked......... ;D
Having one of them dash cams, the video ALWAYS looks faster than actual.
Compared to vid from my dashcam, I'd guess his speed around 60kmh. Not fast by any means for that type of road.
Also the slide starts on the left hand side of the road, now by my reckoning,  that's the side we drive on.
And finally, the slide starts in the built up gravel on the LEFT.......
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Re: The value of safety devices in 4WD's
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2013, 06:46:25 PM »
Quote from: doc evil on December 20, 2013, 06:34:55 PM
You lot need to get ya eyes checked......... ;D
Having one of them dash cams, the video ALWAYS looks faster than actual.
Compared to vid from my dashcam, I'd guess his speed around 60kmh. Not fast by any means for that type of road.
Also the slide starts on the left hand side of the road, now by my reckoning,  that's the side we drive on.
And finally, the slide starts in the built up gravel on the LEFT.......

I've used dash cams for the last 6-7 yrs, if that was only 60kmh I will donate my left twin to science research, when i can find it
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