Long range fuel tanks to require engineere cert.

[Renno]

I was told today by tjm store owner that nsw government are banning after market long range fuel tanks very soon due to fire/explosion potential. He wasn't happy about it either......  Not sure how true it is.... Looks like not banned so to speak but will require engineere cert...
Renno 

[JCOJ]

I would like to know what they base their decision on???  I've never heard of even one fire incident due to a long range tank, especially a diesel one!!

Another pen pusher trying to justify their wage.

[KeithB]

Renno,
Does that include diesel?
Keith

[Hairs]

G'day Renno,
I'd be asking the store owner for some documentation or a contact that can be approached to put the question and chase this up.
Citing, you are a member of a very large group of travelers and they would be very interested in this news. 
I agree with John, Must be someone feeling a little uncertain about their job atm.
Let us know how ya get on.

 

[Mace]

Probably because their product longer complies with ADR's, particularly with regard to emmissions control systems.

check out section LM of the Vehicle Standards National Code of Practice  in the attached link, ok, its a QLD site, but still applies in other states (except down here where everyone seems to do what they like with regard to lifts, tyres, etc).

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Vehicle-standards-and-modifications/Vehicle-modifications/Light-vehicle-modifications.aspx

[86gav]

In QLD it's always been that way as far as I know

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[WilSurf]

It shouldn't be n issua as long as it is fitted to factory mounting points.
That's how I read it in your picture #2.

[chester ver2.0]

I would say it is because some of them now require additional mounts to be placed on the chassis compromising the structural integrity of the vehicle if not done right

[Renno]

It shouldn't be n issua as long as it is fitted to factory mounting points.
That's how I read it in your picture #2.

Only if capacity stays the same..
Renno 

[86gav]

My GU had LRA tanks in it when I got it,  mod plated from ARB brassy.

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[jclures]

I had the two tanks in my Nissan blue plated, I think it has been that way for some time in Qld.

[02-SR5]

I got a longranger fitted by ARB and it came with a blue plate in QLD.

[Rumpig]

I got a longranger fitted by ARB and it came with a blue plate in QLD.

same here with mine, i think they charged an extra $80 (or close to that figure from memory) on top of fitting cost to cover the engineering plate. has been law here in Qld for ages, just a lot of people don't bother to do it

[Renno]

same here with mine, i think they charged an extra $80 (or close to that figure from memory) on top of fitting cost to cover the engineering plate. has been law here in Qld for ages, just a lot of people don't bother to do it

If it's as simple as that not sure why tjm was making a big deal out of it..
Renno 

[Rumpig]

If it's as simple as that not sure why tjm was making a big deal out of it..
Renno 

for the cost ARB charged to mod plate it, i couldn't see a reason not to do it...atleast it keeps the DOT boys off my back if they ever pull me over. all i can think of is, maybe the TJM guys don't have someone in house or easily accessible licenced to do the mod plate for them?

[rodw]

People in other states may disagree but a lot of the changes to the NCOP was the rest adopting QLD's mod plate system according to QLd transport themselves. My tank was plated in QLD as part of the process 4 years ago.

People just don't like change. TJM will get used to it.

[86gav]

Also could be handy having the blue plate under the bonnet when they try and go ya for big lift and tyres.

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[alnjan]

What this relates to and the document posted in the original post is the new VSI6 that is now in play in NSW

http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi6.pdf

Published on 8 November 2013.

FUEL SYSTEM (continued)
Item Modification
48 Fitting/adding an alternative fuel tank or repositioning an existing fuel tank to non-original
mounting points.
Example requiring certification:
• Fitting an alternative fuel tank or repositioning of an existing fuel tank to
 non-original mounting points.
Example not requiring certification:
• Fitting a replacement fuel tank of equal capacity using the original manufacturer’s
mounting points.



The VSI 6 covers Light Vehicle Modifications

Purpose
This Vehicle Standards Information (VSI) No. 6 is intended to help vehicle owners and
modifiers determine what modifications to vehicles up to and including 4.5 tonnes gross
vehicle mass require certification.


Included in the document and worth a read by those from NSW to see what the now legal vehicle modifications are. 

[Hairs]

Cheers for posting that link Al.
 

[WilSurf]

Lucky that I am in WA, the free state (for now)

[Davepatrol]

What happens if you've had the long range tank fitted 8 or 10 years ago Do you have to go and get it inspected and plated?
If you do where do you get it done (local rego check mechanic?) and how much.
Seems like another money making skeem someone dreamed up

[alnjan]

What happens if you've had the long range tank fitted 8 or 10 years ago Do you have to go and get it inspected and plated?
If you do where do you get it done (local rego check mechanic?) and how much.
Seems like another money making skeem someone dreamed up

In short it appears Yes, but I would be making further inquiries. 

http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsccs_faqs.pdf

Do vehicles that have been modified prior to 8
November 2013 have to comply with the requirements
of the Order?
Yes, vehicles that have been previously modified in a
manner that is considered significant under the Order will
require certification if they have not already been certified.
RMS will consider requests for time extensions to obtain
suitable certification for modified vehicles on a case by
case basis.


I can not say if a previously fitted axillary tank would considered  significant under the Order to require a Certificate or not.  Be one to check. 

[Bird]

Seems like another money making skeem someone dreamed up

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[alnjan]

Only applied to NSW Lost but it seems to that way at times

[Metters]

It shouldn't be n issua as long as it is fitted to factory mounting points.

That may be one of the problems.  I have seen a few posts on the net talking about broken factory mounting points.  The usual result is the tank manufacturer says it is not their fault because the tank did not break and the car manufacturer is not interested because the mounting points were not designed to carry heavier tanks.

Another issue could be the design of many larger tanks.  They often consist of flat plate with sharp welded corners.  I can't remember ever having seen a standard tank built like that.  Vibration and fuel movement could easily result in cracked welds caused by flexing.