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Small SUV's RAV ,ix35, Vitara, Captive etc.
« on: October 23, 2013, 07:24:21 PM »
Hi All,

I have bitten the bullet and decided the SWMBO'ed needs a new car. The Astra is f'd It would have to be the most banged up shopping trolley I have ever seen or sat in. SWMBO'ed drives by feel and does so very quickly......................................

So I am tossing up mainly the two wheel drive versions of above.

Front runners atm are the ix35 and RAV. 29K and 31k respectively.....I haven't negotiated anything yet. Will take the Mrs out for a test drive of each on Saturday. I plan to stay at the dealers and let the salesperson go with her and she can scare the sh!te out of him.

So I thought there might be a few swaggers on here who have something like I am looking at and would love your opinions.

Cheers Nomad.
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Re: Small SUV's RAV ,ix35, Vitara, Captive etc.
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 08:32:07 PM »
Don't get a petrol Captiva, just my two cents. The kia dont make a bad small suv but i do like the iX35 for my money.
Take that advice/suggestions as you will.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 08:35:39 PM »
If resale is a consideration get the Rav
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 09:03:12 PM »
 Wife has a x trail company car and loves it.  Really nice to drive and plenty of room.

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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 09:07:30 PM »
Go the Rav
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 09:15:46 PM »
Kia Sportage
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2013, 09:20:25 PM »
Yeah thats my leaning............but not my decision because I won't be driving it. How do you like your Kluger swannie, I might have an angle on one of those thats about 2 years old with low k's........bit bigger than what I want though and too powerful...........seriously..........
and probably can't fit both it and the Parado in the garage at the same time......bikes surfboards etc.

Keep the thoughts coming...I really like the Vitara but its long in the tooth now.
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2013, 07:14:23 AM »
Mate I had a petrol Captiva for a work car a few years ago and I couldn't fault it. Can't compare to the others though as haven't had much to do with them

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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2013, 07:26:24 AM »
Quote from: Nomad on October 23, 2013, 09:20:25 PM
How do you like your Kluger swannie, I might have an angle on one of those thats about 2 years old with low k's........bit bigger than what I want though and too powerful...........seriously..........
and probably can't fit both it and the Parado in the garage at the same time......bikes surfboards etc.

My work vehicle is a Kluger and a Kluger ain't no small SUV.  They used to advertise it as having the widest rear seat on the market.  Also not very fuel efficient.

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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2013, 07:30:07 AM »
Its great, plenty of power, tows well and heaps of room for the kids and camping gear. Its a company car so I don't pay for fuel but I towed the swan over 2000k's and it returned an average of just over 13litres per 100 which I though was good. my only gripe is its not a 4x4

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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2013, 07:35:00 AM »
Quote from: swannie on October 24, 2013, 07:30:07 AM
I towed the swan over 2000k's and it returned an average of just over 13litres per 100

Swannie, I can only just get that when not towing.

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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2013, 07:37:28 AM »
geez KB its amazing how cars vary, Im always travelling with the BIL in his territory petrol and he returns around 16/100. Without towing I get between 10/11 litres/100.

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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2013, 07:41:59 AM »
Suzuki Grand Vitara.
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013, 09:48:29 AM »
Diesel 2.7l SZ Territory RWD.
Just got back from Wilpena Pound and got 10.5l/100km on BP diesel on the way there. Filled up with Caltex Vortex diesel on the way home and got 10.2l/100km towing the CT.

Not a small SUV by any means, but great for towing. I get around 9.2 around town.

I was amazed at the number of small SUV's towing caravans at Wilpena. I would question how many were over their towing capacity.
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2013, 09:53:53 AM »
Suzuki Grand Vitara

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« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2013, 12:14:35 PM »
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have bitten the bullet and decided the SWMBO'ed needs a new car. The Astra is f'd It would have to be the most banged up shopping trolley I have ever seen or sat in. SWMBO'ed drives by feel and does so very quickly......................................
If she is a Shit driver why spend a fortune on a decent car? Its only going to end up a wreck again...
buy an old solid car... XD or similar and some driving lessons.
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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2013, 12:32:42 PM »
What about a CX-5?
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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2013, 12:43:36 PM »
We had a 2011 diesel Kia Sorento for a year. Loved the size, shape, finish but don't EVER count on Kia to back their product if you have a problem.  We sold it 3 years earlier than planned due to atrocious warranty obstacles and being bounced between the dealer and customer care. They had the car back 17 times in 14 months. I gave up in the end.

I know that every make and model has a lemon somewhere but even Consumer Protection conceded that Kia have a lot to learn about backing their product.

Great reviews on the Kia Sorento and Sportage but enter with eyes open.
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« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2013, 07:40:18 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2013, 07:41:44 PM »
Quote from: D4D on October 24, 2013, 12:32:42 PM
What about a CX-5?

Ok its on the list.
SUV's on:
Rav...fixed serving $170
ix35...3 fixed services for $279 then who know......every 15K. Full size alloy spare in the boot.
CX5...????
Vitara.....though I don't need a 4wd and I looked at one and they have been left behind in terms of fitout.....but the best offroader of anything that size.
xtrail.....meh maybe.
ford kuga....anyone know anything about them?........territory is to big Marschy but not a bad thought.

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Kia

Lost, its just time.........she can't drive a Shit heap around forever......and she would really do some damage in something like an XD. I have been promised that this one will be regularly looked after....and our kids are getting older so they aren't as messy now. And if she trashes it she'll just have to drive it until dies..... >:D >:D

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« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2013, 08:04:39 PM »
Adaptive cruise control in the Kuga is brilliant, but the bling  inside is a little over the top when the lights are turned on, it looks too busy if you get my meaning. Very similar interior to the Focus. Much better than the old model which had a very bland interior
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« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2013, 08:05:42 PM »
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And if she trashes it she'll just have to drive it until dies..... >:D >:D
But will the warranty have expired by then?? :D

I wouldn't be costing service costs, I'd be seeing which is cheapest so I lost the least amount of $$$... Does it have to be new?


Stateman's are cheap at the auctions...

or there is this..
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181242626649
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« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2013, 08:07:39 PM »
.Nomad about 15mths ago we went through the same exercise but was looking for a diesel. I had been impressed with the IX35 after driving a petrol 2.4 model for work for 6 months so considered one of these as they are well equiped with great warranty etc, previously i have had a new model Rav every 18mths for work before the Hyundia and they had always been the favourite but for us at the time it was still the old model with no diesel,the Ravs are a typical Toyota reliable ,simple . We have just returned from NZ where we hired a new Rav4 and did 2500km in it. The new model was quite nice to drive ,the lift up tailgate was a great improvement over previous models,it had afull size spare as does the Hyundai but the floor was raise to accomodate the spare,it was comfy averaged around 10l/100km ,typical toyota car. After our search last year we ended up with a new Mazda CX5 diesel ,which is such a nice car to drive, at the time they only came in  either the 2.2 diesel or the 2lt petrol which was underwhelming compared to the diesel but they have now released a2.4 lt petrol which would be much better if a petrol is what you are after. I still think the Mazda is a better overall car with some good features but maybe a little dearer but is a great drive. We did have a fault with ours where it was off the road for 3 weeks while Mazda sorted out a problem but has been ok since and Mazda was ok to deal with also.
If you are just an entry level petrol 2wd as a runaround then i would be comparing the IX35,Rav4 and CX5 and see who comes out the cheapest overall including service intervals ,cost, warranty and also you like the most but i am tipping that you will get the Hyundai IX35 .I recently did the same exercise for the mother inlaw who wanted a new corolla size hatch back ,compare the same 3 manufacturers and overall best buy was the new Hyundai I30. Also i note that you are on the Sunny Coast ,we ended up getting a good deal on the mother inlaws car from Suncoast Hyundai at Maroochydor, but i went armed with a few brissy prices found on Carpoint to use as bait .
For me i would buy the Mazda CX5 again.
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« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2013, 08:13:21 PM »
The 1.6l petrol Kuga is gutless, the 2l turbo diesel is much better
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2013, 08:21:59 PM »
rags,
I will have a good look at the cx5. I do a lot of work for GP Mazda and know Joe and John very well, plus I have bought work cars off them before.

The ix35, in its special edition form, has more bells and whistle than the rav, I think but personally I think the rav is the pick, new shape, not that I necessarily like it that much, but will hold better value..........plus the usual toyota resale and I think fixed price servicing is great and a big part of the deal these days and toyota seem to win hands down in that..............

not that I would buy one but you can walk into toyota and haggle, on a camry, adn get it for around 30K, with $129 fps and get it a zero interest.....(subject to reading the fine print) I mean even if it works out at 2% its still bloody cheap motoring.

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