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The Coffee Machine Conundrum
« on: September 24, 2013, 05:41:14 PM »
Has anyone ever been sick before from a coffee machine?
Like to think we're reasonably fastidious people and very careful with hygene, particularly as we camp in the bush alot.
We've learned to clean up well, but this could be a timely warning, in this case at home.

I regularly fly interstate and working in the drug industry, have to say I possibly spend a lot of time or interact more with sick people than well.
Got back home late last Thurs night, worked from home on the Friday, made lunch, felt tired, made myself a coffee (separate coffee pod unit and milk frother).
Home made pizza for tea courtesey of SWMBO (yeah I know what you're now thinking, but no the insurance policy is in my favour not hers).
Five adults in the house all ate the same food.  Watched the Hawks struggle but win, packed up and headed to bed.
Just cuddled up to SWMBO (after all I'd been away most of the week....nudge, nudge, wink, wink).
SWMBO rolls over and we kissssssssssss........very romantic.

Just as the passion starts to rise, so does the sick feeling in my stomach................

Without going into all the detail, my body went into spasms and convulsions that pretty muchly saw every orifice empty itself.
Now being the normal male, I played the usual poor me card as I was laying prostrate on the bathroom floor and spend the next 24hrs playing dead in bed.  Hydralyte is my friend.
Of course the topic of conversation in the house is 'well you travel all the time, this was going to happen sooner than later',
except I've been travelling for nearly 20years.... at this stage noone else sick.

Finally Sunday morning starting to feel somewhat human again.

Then Sunday afternoon, 2 of the other 4 adults hit the bathroom with the same afflction and off course it's all my fault.  Have to be more careful when I travel, look what you've bought home, if the rest of us catch this, well look out says SWMBO.

As I lay there retracing my steps over the previous 5 days as to where I could have caught this thing, i also started to eliminate many other possibilites and guess what was left?

You guessed it - the coffee machine.

Out of the 5 adults in the house, the only 3 to get sick were the coffee drinkers and it turns out the other two hadn't used the machine for a few days and both made a coffee using the machine on Sunday morning.

So the conundrum is - do we throw the machine out or is there a cleaning process that we need to know?


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Re: The Coffee Machine Conundrum
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2013, 05:47:24 PM »
Can you be sure it was the coffee machine and the other 2 didn't catch it from you? Gastro is pretty contagious.

Reason I say this is the worst gastro, similar symptoms to yours, I have ever had hit me about 12 hours after landing on QF94. Into hospital on a drip and the Dr. stated it was only a matter of time before you catch something on a plane as they are a germ fest...
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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2013, 05:48:11 PM »
It might be a simple case of , the coffee pods were some how tainted...a bad batch maybe.
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Re: The Coffee Machine Conundrum
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2013, 05:51:43 PM »

It might be a simple case of , the coffee pods were some how tainted...a bad batch maybe.
Thnx, I was wondering the same thing and we did throw the rest of that box of pods away, but it was half used.


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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2013, 05:53:36 PM »

Can you be sure it was the coffee machine and the other 2 didn't catch it from you? Gastro is pretty contagious.

Reason I say this is the worst gastro, similar symptoms to yours, I have ever had hit me about 12 hours after landing on QF94. Into hospital on a drip and the Dr. stated it was only a matter of time before you catch something on a plane as they are a germ fest...
Not sure at all and for most of the weekend it was all my fault.  I should say that it the units you buy from the local supermarkets with the coffee pod dispenser and the separate milk frother.  We're very carefull in cleaning the frother to make sure no milk residue.

Also gastro came second.........


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Re: The Coffee Machine Conundrum
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2013, 06:15:56 PM »
As above my money is on the plane due to low humidity germs stay longer on surfaces

I would say that you then touched 3 of the 5 or the other 2 had washed their hands or similar.

As D4D said i have had the same thing off the flight home and 6 hours later a 24hr stint in the bathroom


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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2013, 06:40:47 PM »
I've been sick with very similar symptoms and timeframe on a business trip to the UK. Something on the plane or in the lounge.

As a microbiologist in a former career, I doubt very much it was from the coffee machine, particularly a capsule version. Although the water temperature isn't high enough to kill bugs inside the capsule it's a pretty hostile environment for them. You'd need a very contaminated pod to have sufficient residual bugs in the cup. It could be the milk if you all had it from the same bottle, but again unlikely (it would probably taste or look off after the frothed if it was off). Not many nooks and crannies in a frother to hide (assuming it was cleaned normally between uses). Put it down to coincidence that the coffee drinkers came down with it. However, you probably did bring it into the house.

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Re: The Coffee Machine Conundrum
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2013, 07:04:41 PM »


We use this stuff like its going out of fashion when we travel.

5/6 of us got gastro after staying in a ski lodge once, the culprit..... A Doctors kid, who, in the words of our trusted MD,  "thought they were over it"  :-[

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« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2013, 07:14:38 PM »
Pizza COFFEE and watching the Hawks WIN - you just don't do that it is possible the beer gods were punishing you for including coffee amongst what could have been a perfect night  :cheers: :cheers:
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Re: The Coffee Machine Conundrum
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2013, 08:05:39 PM »
Iam with the others, as a very frequent flyer you cop it from time to time. In saying that coffee itself will upset the stomach and I often avoid it in the mornings for this reason.
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Re: The Coffee Machine Conundrum
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2013, 08:18:21 PM »
We use similar type of machine you mention and have had no trouble with it we were using the separate frother but now warm the milk in cup in microwave easy cleaner etc.  Ours is the safeway one and you can buy a descaler to run through it and the book tells you what to do and what lights will be on at the front when it is needed I guess if you were worried you could do that but like others said I bet it was from the travel.

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« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2013, 08:27:13 PM »
Sorry Scarps but it looks like you just gave them the sh1ts  :angel:
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« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2013, 09:00:35 PM »
Thnx one and all. Looks like then the judges verdict is ........... It was me:-) bugger, thought I had a scapegoat.

As said, I deal with sick people all the time and use lots of soap and antibacterial wash and wipes, particularly at airports and planes, it was possibly just my time.

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The next conundrum - very lucky SWMBO didn't catch it, but does this mean she's immune to me after 30 years?




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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2013, 09:07:57 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2013, 09:48:39 PM »

Pizza COFFEE and watching the Hawks WIN - you just don't do that it is possible the beer gods were punishing you for including coffee amongst what could have been a perfect night  :cheers: :cheers:
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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2013, 07:26:07 AM »
As a precaution we always use straight tap water in the machine as he chlorine helps to keep bacteria out of the works. Thats the theory anyway
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Re: The Coffee Machine Conundrum
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2013, 05:04:28 PM »
My daughter left Melbourne in perfectly good health and when I spoke to her a day later she was as crook as a dog. So the theory about catching bugs on the plane is up there with the best of them IMO
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2013, 09:05:25 PM »
Back when I was a corporate ladder climber I always used to carry a packet of Lomotil in my suit bag and in my center console, nothing worse then catching the red eye to Melbourne for a morning meeting when you've got a dose of the squirts - kinda makes its hard to concentrate when you all you can think about is how many spare pairs of jocks you packed!
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Re: The Coffee Machine Conundrum
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2013, 09:43:41 AM »
Thnx everyone. You've convinced me it was a virus picked up in the airport or plane.

BTW, selling my coffee machine in the classifieds section if anyone interested..............