Author Topic: Private shower ban at Burrum Coast National Park - Is this a trend? (Read 21343 times)

Oddy · « **on:** April 01, 2013, 11:23:43 AM »

We had a pre-Easter camp at Burrum Coast NP, Woodgate Section (Burrum Point) near Childers, Qld - lovely spot with only a few people (we left on Thursday). The facilities are good with town water flushing toilets and cold showers, but we took along, as usual, our Aqua Cube and shower tent. But the notice on the board said "No Private External Showers ... Permitted". I asked the ranger why and he said it was to avoid having soap scum left behind on the sites. The sites are on deep sand, about 50m behind the dunes.

In this case, the cold shower water was not real cold (must have been well into the 20's) so we had no problem. But in winter, that would be different. And I would hate to think that parks everywhere will pick up on this new (to me) restriction. How widespread is it?

Cheers
Oddy

xcvator · « **Reply #1 on:** April 01, 2013, 12:46:25 PM »

Looks to me like the "ranger in charge" is making up his own rules

DannyG · « **Reply #2 on:** April 01, 2013, 01:21:31 PM »

Obviously the ranger has read the generator threads on here!

The shower rule is a bit odd although it may cause a hygiene risk perhaps?

toeball · « **Reply #3 on:** April 01, 2013, 02:19:26 PM »

I'd check for a hidden camera in the shower cubicle.

dazzler · « **Reply #4 on:** April 01, 2013, 02:25:53 PM »

I would have a bath then ......

edz · « **Reply #5 on:** April 01, 2013, 03:55:20 PM »

Just wondering if he was a bit early with the April fools day pranks . ..

austastar · « **Reply #6 on:** April 01, 2013, 04:18:16 PM »

Hi,
perhaps he saw a sight that he just can't 'unsee'.

cheers

Marcus73 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 01, 2013, 05:13:01 PM »

Quote from: austastar on April 01, 2013, 04:18:16 PM

Hi,
perhaps he saw a sight that he just can't 'unsee'.

cheers

Hmmm... Sounds like Jeepers has been camping there

Paul (SA) · « **Reply #8 on:** April 01, 2013, 05:51:33 PM »

Surely is a beautiful spot to holiday at. Wish I was there right now....

Tim - Stratford · « **Reply #9 on:** April 01, 2013, 05:59:44 PM »

So in the spirit of the legislation...or sign....a group external shower is ok. Just invite all the other campers over for a 'hot' shower with you.

nbd73 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 01, 2013, 06:20:38 PM »

What a load of BS. As if a private personal shower generates enough soap to upset the environmental balance. I am not a scientist, but this does sound like rubbish. I reckon humans contribute far more deadly elements to nature on a daily basis that are not monitored, so why on earth this has become an issue is anybody's guess: more knowledgeable people please enlighten....

gibbo301 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 02, 2013, 10:15:23 AM »

Sounds to me he is only banning the shower tent if you shower in the open its not private right.

GeeTee · « **Reply #12 on:** April 02, 2013, 01:12:15 PM »

That is terrific news for experienced campers and travellers. Hopefully this will reduce the disgusting practice of campers (and caravanners) having showers with scant regard for the sewerage run-off onto the ground

BigJules · « **Reply #13 on:** April 02, 2013, 01:27:39 PM »

I believe sewerage is waste water from a toilet (sewerage system), whereas showers, sinks etc produce grey water.

Strenuous activity such as hiking is also banned, as sweat may fall on the ground, containing salts which would then damage the environment.

Bird · « **Reply #14 on:** April 02, 2013, 01:38:26 PM »

Quote from: BigJules

I believe sewerage is waste water from a toilet (sewerage system), whereas showers, sinks etc produce grey water.

Strenuous activity such as hiking is also banned, as sweat may fall on the ground, containing salts which would then damage the environment.

SteveandViv · « **Reply #15 on:** April 02, 2013, 01:44:52 PM »

Quote from: GeeTee on April 02, 2013, 01:12:15 PM

That is terrific news for experienced campers and travellers. Hopefully this will reduce the disgusting practice of campers (and caravanners) having showers with scant regard for the sewerage run-off onto the ground

What a load of xxxx . Do you think that the water that falls on the Kimberly is nice and pure after the dry, filled with cow sh1t and all manner of things. It is then used as bore water for stations etc. It can be done if people are sensible. It filters back into the land. I'm taking about showers. What do you do when you need to pee in the middle of now where

Bet if you took a soil sample after a few days you wouldn't know they were there. I've never seen sewerage on the ground after a shower though

GeeTee · « **Reply #16 on:** April 02, 2013, 02:33:03 PM »

Yep, many will agree - many will disagree. But I was brought up in a 'take only photos - leave only footprints' way.

As far as I'm concerned "grey water" is sewarage and I treat it - and the people who create it - with the same disdain as the also-growing number of caravanners who drop thier washing machine water ("grey water") all over campgrounds and road-side rest areas

It's disgusting and as the orginal poster asked, yes I hope banning of showers is a trend

Marcus73 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 02, 2013, 03:18:58 PM »

Maybe I'm just a little confused here, but I've always been under the impression that people store grey water ( showers / washing machine ) for use around the garden etc. If this is the case, what harm would having a shower while camping do? Taking a dump in the middle of a camp area may be slightly different though

SteveandViv · « **Reply #18 on:** April 02, 2013, 03:37:17 PM »

Quote from: Marcus73 on April 02, 2013, 03:18:58 PM

Maybe I'm just a little confused here, but I've always been under the impression that people store grey water ( showers / washing machine ) for use around the garden etc. If this is the case, what harm would having a shower while camping do? Taking a dump in the middle of a camp area may be slightly different though

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Taking a dump in the middle of a camp area may be slightly different though

Apparently not to some though. When we did Cape Y a few years with the Frosts we did the Frenchmans track. A few lovely people did a few choice turds on the track - lovely

As for grey water. Maybe if the sites get to soggy then you may limit the where you can but in the real bush no one will care and no one will know. . Still though. Can't see most places having and issue with it. Up here the sites are all river type sand and the water is gone before you know it and will join the artisan basin no doubt.

hairymick · « **Reply #19 on:** April 02, 2013, 04:21:08 PM »

Quote from: GeeTee on April 02, 2013, 02:33:03 PM

Yep, many will agree - many will disagree. But I was brought up in a 'take only photos - leave only footprints' way.

As far as I'm concerned "grey water" is sewarage and I treat it - and the people who create it - with the same disdain as the also-growing number of caravanners who drop thier washing machine water ("grey water") all over campgrounds and road-side rest areas

It's disgusting and as the orginal poster asked, yes I hope banning of showers is a trend

What would you have people do with their grey water from showers? Perhaps you are clued in on some new apparatus that will magically make all this terrible stuff just dissappear.

I use my grey water at home to water my plants and gardens and they thrive on it.

Are you actually advocating taking this terrible grey water back to our respective homes and then disposing of it down the sewer? that is assuming we had the capacity to carry all this waste water.

rockman · « **Reply #20 on:** April 02, 2013, 05:05:20 PM »

Quote from: GeeTee on April 02, 2013, 02:33:03 PM

Yep, many will agree - many will disagree. But I was brought up in a 'take only photos - leave only footprints' way.

As far as I'm concerned "grey water" is sewarage and I treat it - and the people who create it - with the same disdain as the also-growing number of caravanners who drop thier washing machine water ("grey water") all over campgrounds and road-side rest areas

It's disgusting and as the orginal poster asked, yes I hope banning of showers is a trend

I got to love a guy that will stand up in front of a bunch of people and tell them that they are wrong ..... lol

Question for you while you are still up on your soapbox .. have you ever had to stop for a leak in the bush or do you wait until you get into the nearest McDonalds and use their rest-room or do you quickly set up your portable toilet enclosure , access your porta-loo ... and squat !

I know that after a night on the apple ciders , i would think that my urine is 100 times stronger then most soap ... if not just as bubbly !

sunshine · « **Reply #21 on:** April 02, 2013, 06:21:55 PM »

hmmm detergents can infect fresh water supplies ... and damage the warer quality .......but the bush wouldnt be as fragile imho ... and what about acid rain type stuff carrried from far & away and being deposited upon the land

just my 2c

sonny · « **Reply #22 on:** April 02, 2013, 07:00:25 PM »

Sounds a bit like the dam near us - you are not allowed to canoe on it as it is a drinking water source (and yes I do know people who have been fined for canoeing there) - BUT the local farmer's horses swim in there !!!! (and no doubt do other things as well !)

Jon · « **Reply #23 on:** April 02, 2013, 07:23:04 PM »

Years ago we used Pears Clear soap as it was/is biodegradeable, while bathing in the pristine Murrumbidgee. Compared with what comes down the river in a flood, some suds for 30secs every other day is not going to be an issue.

I do take the point about low lying, already damp camp grounds. No one likes camping in others run off. I make an effort to put the shower where the run off goes into the bush, away from the general area.

Foo · « **Reply #24 on:** April 03, 2013, 05:44:17 AM »

Lets all go camping for a week and not have a shower or wash, how wonderfully hygienic idiots.

Make sure you don't clean you utensils as well, we wouldn't want that neither would we oh and while your at it, bloody well stay home and we won't have to worry about all this crap that some tree hugging stinking hippie types say. Whatever you do, don't fart out in the woods because you will destroy the ozone as well. Give me a bloody break.

Human stupidity never ceases to amaze me.

Foo

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