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Offline Chriso100

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What size snatch strap?
« on: March 04, 2013, 09:11:42 PM »
Just wondering what is the best size/length snatch strap, and snatch block? I am setting up my first recovery kit for our 100 series Landcruiser.  I have 4.75T shackles, drag chain and other bits and pieces.  We are going to the Caravan and Camping show this weekend and I'm hoping to pick up some bargains, but not sure what I need...yes very green we are.
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2013, 09:39:58 PM »
Whatever you do don't get the mega sized straps.  You WANT the strap to be the weak point, you want it to be the thing that breaks before parts of your truck do.
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2013, 09:47:12 PM »
Times a bazillion!!! Its an interesting sight to see a mates patrol go to snatch a zook out of a bog hole....
The only snatch he had was a brand new arb 12000.... ripped the whole bloody bullbar off the poor little zook.

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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2013, 09:48:51 PM »
Whoops, on that I noticed autobarn had a basic snatch kit (warn) for $99.00.
Id probably start there.

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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2013, 10:18:43 PM »
The heading of this thread could have been sooo much fun

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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2013, 10:52:40 PM »
The Minimum Breaking Strength of the strap should be between 2 and 3 times the Gross Vehicle Mass of the lightest of the two vehicles used in the recovery process.

For your cruiser an 8000kg strap is perfect a 12000kg strap won't stretch and will damage your vehicle.

The stamped rating of your bow shackles has a safety margin of about 5 times that figure. So we only use the 3.25 tonne rating when training purely for weight and some car recovery points won't take the larger shackles.

As said before the snatch strap should be the 1st thing to fail if something goes wrong. They are designed to fail at the stitching at the ends. If it breaks anywhere else it's the users fault for not checking your strap properly.
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2013, 04:48:21 AM »
There is some good info here

https://www.juststraps.com.au/Default.asp?

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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2013, 09:19:09 AM »
Theres some eye opening info here
http://www.whyalla4wd.org.au/Shackles.html
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2013, 09:30:47 AM »
What you guys are saying is all true.

The snatch strap should be a 'fuse'. Otherwise, we'd just use a drag chain. 8,000kg is the standard for 4WD wagons, etc.

Less is sometimes more.

And as far as brands and breaking...I've broken them all under various weird circumstances. Some places will stand by their product differently, though.

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What size snatch strap?
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2013, 12:41:16 PM »
Consider using an equalizer strap or tree trunk protecter as well
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2013, 02:09:11 PM »
At work we are using these http://www.bubbarope.com.au/Bubba-12-900kg.html for our cruisers.
Now they are 12.9T but they work really well and we hve not destroyed one yet.
If you use a genlye pull (at work we start with a tow recovery not a snatch) then if that fails try snatching with a light snatch then medimum etc. If after 3 attempts it does not recover the vehicle we have to reassess what we are doing.

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EDIT: also they do not mind being wet either. They don't roll up as small as a flat strap and they are easy to clean.
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2013, 12:07:37 PM »
Quote from: Nootsa on March 04, 2013, 09:11:42 PM
Just wondering what is the best size/length snatch strap, and snatch block? I am setting up my first recovery kit for our 100 series Landcruiser.  I have 4.75T shackles, drag chain and other bits and pieces.  We are going to the Caravan and Camping show this weekend and I'm hoping to pick up some bargains, but not sure what I need...yes very green we are.
Thanks Chris.

Hi Nootsa, being 'very green', your first purchase should be an off-road driving/4WD course or two so you can learn about and become competent in off-road driving techniques and then vehicle recovery practices.
This will better give you an idea of what equipment you may need (starting with a shovel!).
When buying equipment that, when used incorrectly, can lead to vehicle damage and serious injury (and death), you should look for quality rather than 'bargains'.

 
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2013, 12:34:21 PM »
8000kg strap for your vehicle recovery. 11000kg strap if you intend to recover your vehicle with a camp trailer or similar attached. Be cautions with each and keep all metal objects in the recovery to a minimum. Don't use shackles to join straps or attach to the vehicle if you don't have to, and never attach a strap by dropping it over a tow ball.

Better to have a few goes on the cautious side, rather than be rip tear bust and end up with tears.

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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2013, 04:40:51 PM »
Jeepers hasn't said it so I will, wouldn't the size of the snatch determine the size of the strap ?  :angel: :angel:
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What size snatch strap?
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2013, 05:04:07 PM »
Quote from: xcvator on March 06, 2013, 04:40:51 PM
Jeepers hasn't said it so I will, wouldn't the size of the snatch determine the size of the strap ?  :angel: :angel:
You discust me... Fancy implying that Jeepers would say such a thing ;)
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2013, 05:10:37 PM »
If your planning on using the box section of your towbar, then look for a strap that will fit inside the box section.

A lot of straps have large chunky loops, so they don’t fit.
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2013, 08:14:05 PM »
An excellent point...

Quote from: Beachman on March 06, 2013, 05:10:37 PM
If your planning on using the box section of your towbar, then look for a strap that will fit inside the box section.

A lot of straps have large chunky loops, so they don’t fit.
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2013, 11:03:56 AM »
Quote from: Beachman on March 06, 2013, 05:10:37 PM
If your planning on using the box section of your towbar, then look for a strap that will fit inside the box section.

A lot of straps have large chunky loops, so they don’t fit.
Our you get a recovery hitch that fits in the hole and you connect a shackle to it. They cost somewhere around $40
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2013, 11:09:13 AM »
Quote from: Crisp Image on March 07, 2013, 11:03:56 AM
Our you get a recovery hitch that fits in the hole and you connect a shackle to it. They cost somewhere around $40
Regards Crispy

Better off without the recovery hitch and shackle in the recovery. Sound advice is to shop for a strap that will fit in the box of the tow bar, then the only metal object in the recovery is the receiver pin. The less metal, and less complicated the better/safer in practice.

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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2013, 11:54:47 AM »
Quote from: xcvator on March 06, 2013, 04:40:51 PM
Jeepers hasn't said it so I will, wouldn't the size of the snatch determine the size of the strap ?  :angel: :angel:
Well, seeing as we are 'off topic' ... what size strap would you use for your Jack?
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2013, 12:04:31 PM »
Quote from: Jason B on March 07, 2013, 11:09:13 AM
Better off without the recovery hitch and shackle in the recovery. Sound advice is to shop for a strap that will fit in the box of the tow bar, then the only metal object in the recovery is the receiver pin. The less metal, and less complicated the better/safer in practice.
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2013, 12:00:52 PM »
 ??? how not to ues statch straps  tihs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8lMxYnGIrw
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Re: What size snatch strap?
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2013, 03:53:20 PM »
Quote from: gv 2003 on March 09, 2013, 12:00:52 PM
??? how not to ues statch straps  tihs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8lMxYnGIrw

Haven't seen that one before. Wow!!!! :o :o :o
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