thanks for the link John. I ordered the 9.5XP with rope from them last night. I had to pay Florida taxes and the dollars tanked a little
Still did okay.
I liked D4Ds idea re the M12000 and could have got a 6 HP motor for $220. But I couldnt find any around offering rope, so that was another cost on top, they are heavier and a Lcooler confirmed to me last night definetly won't fit with bar on and as much as a pain it might be to get the winch off with the bar on I perfer to have that option.
So I guess my 200 build has started