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Campsite Requirements
« on: January 09, 2013, 09:18:03 PM »
Hi Guys,

LB and I are in the very early stages of thinking about buying either an existing camp site, or buying a property and building a camp site.

As part of the process I would like to ask for your opinions about where and what you look for in a camp site. The survey is aimed at those that take weekend/week trips, those doing major travel will no doubt have different criteria. My initial thought would be that the majority of customers would be reasonably local guys.

WOW, what a response, you guys have filled the 100 responses already!!!!!

At this stage we will leave the survey at that, but please feel free to comment as much as you can in this thread.


Thanks in advance

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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2013, 09:22:52 PM »
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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2013, 09:24:44 PM »
Sorry Lost, mucked up the whole URL thing.
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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2013, 09:34:02 PM »
Done.
I just went to click on the link again to check some of the questions but it takes me to the home or end page not the survey itself.

I envisage something like Burralow Swamp - shade, a toilet though more then one might be good, fire pits, good ground the kids can ride their bikes on or room to fly a kite of kick a ball around/cricket.
With regards to drinking water or a shop, I don't think it is needed for a 2-3 day weekend but maybe some occasional campers might need it for a week stay where as the more experienced are pretty self sufficent with power/water/food.

Good luck.
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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2013, 09:37:57 PM »
Done and good luck whatever you decide.

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2013, 09:41:15 PM »
Done! 

Also must add that a good campsite for me is one without idiots and hoons and plenty of space between camps, so your not kept awake by the peopke having a "quiet chat" in the next site.

Strong management is key.


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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2013, 09:42:49 PM »
Done mate. A sound business option I think with the Ever increasing number of Nomads hitting the road. I have had the same thought great to see you are actually motivated to do something with yours. Good luck with it.

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2013, 09:44:29 PM »
Done

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2013, 09:46:19 PM »
Done and good luck with the venture :cup:

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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2013, 09:49:03 PM »
Done! 

Also must add that a good campsite for me is one without idiots and hoons and plenty of space between camps, so your not kept awake by the peopke having a "quiet chat" in the next site.

Strong management is key.


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Hi JB,

I am thinking of four different site types
1. Common camping ground - unallocated sites
2. Common camping ground - powered sites - allocated
3. group sites (thinking around 10) - large site with an acre of land around it
4. Cabins (thinking around 10) - each cabin with about an acre of land around it

I figure this should cater for most camping styles, group sites would be charged by site (not number of campers).

We would also limit the number of people camping at any one time so people are not squashed on top of each other.

We had the loud conversation going well past midnight in the campsite next to us at Riverwood downs. Not sure how to combat that other than as the management taking a walk around the site after 10 and reminding those still up to be considerate.

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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2013, 09:50:44 PM »
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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2013, 09:52:41 PM »
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We had the loud conversation going well past midnight in the campsite next to us at Riverwood downs. Not sure how to combat that other than as the management taking a walk around the site after 10 and reminding those still up to be considerate.
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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 09:59:19 PM »
2 acres + between sites.

Thanks for that Lost. I suppose in the end it will depend on the size of land that we can afford, but i agree, the more the better.

Noise pollution between sites is an important consideration and is foremost in our considerations.

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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 10:00:46 PM »
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Thanks for that Lost. I suppose in the end it will depend on the size of land that we can afford, but i agree, the more the better.

Noise pollution between sites is an important consideration and is foremost in our considerations.
some of that bush stuff they use for hedges...
Good luck with insurance too, that will up the costs
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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2013, 10:02:04 PM »
Yeah, insurance is going to be a killer, have not even looked into that yet, the lsit is growing very very fast!
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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2013, 10:06:25 PM »
Yeah, insurance is going to be a killer, have not even looked into that yet, the lsit is growing very very fast!
I would start there.

actually I'd start with the local council, to see if they will allow it
save you months of work to go nowhere.
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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2013, 10:09:17 PM »
I would start there.

actually I'd start with the local council, to see if they will allow it
save you months of work to go nowhere.

The issue is at this stage we do not have a council in mind, the area is open for consideration for the time being.

As I said, very early stages.

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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2013, 10:09:34 PM »
Done. At the end of the day you are there to make a living. Having too big campsites means less people, less income. Trying to find the perfect medium will be hard.

Good luck with the venture.

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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2013, 10:55:50 PM »
We done your survey but Ill add our thoughts here because its easier......

Our ideal camp site is on a nice river, large grassy sites, quiet, private, plenty of fire wood, close enough to supplies that its not an epic trip but not so close that you are camping in a town, things to do in the area such as walks, sight seeing etc and it must be cheap :) We stay away from busy camp sites if we can, they usually attract inconsiderate people.

Oh and cant say too much on here at the moment but your a man after our own heart :) Public liability insurance is not as bad as you may think.
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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2013, 10:55:57 PM »
Done.

Have pondered the merits of a venture like this myself.

I liked the style of Home Valley on the GRR

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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2013, 11:14:39 PM »
You guys are amazing, thank you so much for your responses. 30 responses in under 3 hours is much more than I had expected.

As SurveyMonkey will only allow 100 responses on the free site, I may well upgrade. This will also allow me to do more with the surveys.

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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2013, 11:15:48 PM »
Survey done mate.  ;D

Just a side note,
We usually camp near a river or a lake, This is because generally we will take the boat with us as well.
The BIGGEST thing I have found at camp grounds that are near water is that to maximise profit the camp sites are small. You generally have enough room for the trailer and car.
Most parking for boats be it a ski boat or tinny are in the main carpark or visitors carpark out the front. This can mean quite a large walk depending on where you are.
If there was enough room for say a camper trailer car and possibly a boat or second car close by to each site it makes it much easier.

The last powered site we stayed on was your typical concrete slab and a bit of grass. Enough room on the grass for say a Jayco popup and the awning to go over the concrete and not much else.
To fit the 14 foot van, car and boat we had to hire two sites. This was because we were right up the back and the walk to the boat took around 10 min. Not great for a security aspect for a 30 grand boat.

We usually take two cars, one tows the boat the other the van or camper when I finish it. I don't mind parking the other car out front but it would be nice to have room for the trailer/boat close by.


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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2013, 11:20:06 PM »


We usually take two cars, one tows the boat the other the van or camper when I finish it. I don't mind parking the other car out front but it would be nice to have room for the trailer/boat close by.


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Thanks Evo,

This is why I try to steer away from allocated sites and prefer open camping. The powered sites at Ferndale are basically just poles sticking out of the ground, all grass. This looks good to me.

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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2013, 11:23:13 PM »
Thanks Evo,

This is why I try to steer away from allocated sites and prefer open camping. The powered sites at Ferndale are basically just poles sticking out of the ground, all grass. This looks good to me.

Bunyip

Yep, Vote one for that. The concrete drives me nuts.
More often than not after a few years the ground around the concrete tends to disappear. I have been to a few places where there was nearly 4 inches of difference between the concrete and grass (dirt).

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Re: Campsite Requirements
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2013, 05:14:28 AM »
close to a bottle shop is a must for me
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