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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2013, 05:43:42 PM »
It's like we have our own MaceBook page!!

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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2013, 05:50:15 PM »
That is very funny!!  I may have to register that name!

If only 1 person is finding it useful, then worth it.

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Re: NSW Fires
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Re: NSW Fires
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2013, 09:01:18 PM »

Major Fire Updates
Emergency Warning - Yarrabin Fire (Cooma-Monaro LGA) 08/01/13 21:46
Posted: 08/01/2013

An Emergency Warning has been issued for an out of control bush fire burning in the Kybeyan Valley area.

Current Information

The fire is burning in  the Kybeyan Valley, west of Tuross River Road. The fire is currently impacting on properties in The Avenue; Hains Road and Warnocks Road, Kybeyan Valley.

People in the Kybeyan Valley area should seek shelter as the fire impacts. Police have been doorknocking homes in the area to advise them of the risk.

The fire is likely to move towards the Dangelong, Numeralla and Countegany areas following a southerly wind change expected to move through the area after midnight. People in these areas should stay aware of the fire activity.

Two Emergency Alert Telephone Warning messages have been sent to residents in the Mount Forest Road and Kybeyan Valley areas. Firefighters have been working to protect local properties in the area throughout the afternoon.

Advice

Seek shelter as the fire impacts. Protect yourself from the radiant heat.

Other information

If your life is at risk, call Triple Zero (000) immediately.

Continue to stay up to date with the bush fire situation by checking  the RFS website www.rfs.nsw.gov.au, listening to your local radio station or by calling the NSW RFS Bush Fire Information Line on 1800 679 737.

For information on road closures, check http://livetraffic.rta.nsw.gov.au. Roads may be closed without warning.
Emergency Warning - Sand Hills fire (Palerang) 08/01/13 21:43
Posted: 08/01/2013

A bush fire is burning in the area 13 kilometres east of Bungendore near the Kings Highway.

Current Situation

The fire is burning in the area of the Kings Highway near Timber Hills Road.

The fire has spotted over near Mulloon Road and properties may come under threat in this area.

Firefighters are working to protect properties in Hazeldell Road. They are experiencing difficult conditions, with winds gusting at more than 100 kilometres per hour.

The Kings Highway is closed at Braidwood intersection and at Bungendore.

Advice

People are advised not to travel along the Kings Highway as it is closed between Braidwood and Bungendore.

People on the northern side of the fire are advised they can still leave the area by travelling north up the Braidwood to Goulburn Road towards Tarago.

Further information

If your life is at risk, call Triple Zero (000) immediately.

Continue to stay up to date with the bush fire situation by checking  the RFS website www.rfs.nsw.gov.au, listening to your local radio station or by calling theNSW RFS Bush Fire Information Line on 1800 679 737.

For information on road closures, check www.livetraffic.com. Roads may be closed without warning.
Emergency Warning - Deans Gap fire (Shoalhaven) 08/01/13 21:32
Posted: 08/01/2013

A bush fire  burning approximately 1.5km to the west of Wandandian in the Deans Gap area has burnt through 1,515 hectares.

Current Situation

An emergency warning is in place for the following areas: WANDANDIAN, BENDALONG ROAD, BENDALONG, NORTH BENDALONG, CUNJURONG POINT, JANUNG LANE, JERRAWANGALA, SUSSEX INLET ROAD, SUSSEX INLET, CUDMIRRAH, SWANHAVEN, MEDLYN AVE, BERRARA. A large bush fire is burning out of control.

The fire is burning in Catastrophic fire danger conditions and is currently between two and six hours from properties.

The fire is currently over 1500ha in size, and has now crossed the Princes Highway. Based on current weather predictions the southerly change is expected to reach the area soon.

The southerly change will cause the fire to head in a northerly direction and impact on Sussex Inlet Road within the next few hours.  It is too late for residents on Sussex Inlet Road to leave the area. There are a number of firefighters working from the road and conditions are not safe to travel.

Rural Fire Service and Fire Rescue New South Wales firefighters are strategically deployed along the Sussex Inlet Road protecting properties.

The southerly change will bring cooler conditions however, the threat to property will remain.

The Princes Highway remains closed at Bendalong Road in the north and Wandean Road in the south.  It is too late for people to leave the area.

Evacuation Centres are open in Sussex Inlet at the Bowling Club and the RSL. The RSL is capable of taking people with pets while the Bowling Club is not. These centres are open for people who have relocated due to the fire. At this stage there are no evacuation orders in place.

The following roads are also closed:  Braidwood Road, Turpentine Road, Wandean Road and Twelve Mile Road

Advice

    Do not wait. Act now to protect you and your family.
    Homes are not designed or constructed to withstand fire in these conditions. Even if your home is specially designed, constructed or modified to withstand a fire and is properly prepared, it may not offer safety from the fire.
    Protect yourself from the heat of the fire. If you are caught in the path of the fire, you may die or be injured.
    Updates on this fire, Bush Fire Survival Plans, details of Neighbourhood Safer Places and the latest reports can be found on the NSW RFS webpage www.rfs.nsw.gov.au or by calling call 1800 NSW RFS (1800 679 737).

Further information

    People are asked not to call ‘000’ to report smoke in the area – please only call ‘000’if you can see a fire without fire fighters in attendance or if your life is directly threatened.
    For information on road conditions or closures, please call the NSW RTA on 131 700 or check www.rta.nsw.gov.au. Remember roads may be closed without warning.
    For information on closures of National Parks associated with this fire, please visit www.npws.nsw.gov.au

Emergency Warning - Cobbler Road Fire (Yass) 08/01/13 21:06
Posted: 08/01/2013

A fast moving grass fire is burning out of control south of the township of Bookham.

More Information

The grass fire is burning very quickly through grasslands south of Bookham.

The fire is currently impacting on Burrinjuck Road and the fire activity has closed the road. People in the area are advised to shelter in place as the fire impacts. People in the Burrinjuck Dam area are also advised to shelter in place, it is too late to leave this area.

The fire has moved through the Childowla Road area, but residents are advised to keep up to date with the changing fire conditions.

It has been confirmed that one home was lost on Bogalara Road.

People in the Bald Hill are are advised that the fire threat has now eased, however they should remain aware of the changing fire situation.

Advice

    Act immediately. You are in danger.
    Homes are not designed or constructed to withstand fire in these conditions.
    Even if your home is specially designed, constructed or modified to withstand a fire and is properly prepared, it may not offer safety from the fire.
    Protect yourself from the heat of the fire. If you are caught in the path of the fire, you may die or be injured.

Other information

    If your life is at risk, call Triple Zero (000) immediately.
    Continue to stay up to date with the bush fire situation by checking http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au, listening to your local radio station or by calling the NSW RFS Bush Fire Information Line on 1800 679 737.
    If you live in the area but are away from home, it may not be safe to return to your property.
    For information on road closures, check http://livetraffic.rta.nsw.gov.au. Roads may be closed without warning.

 
Emergency Warning - Mates Gully Tarcutta (Wagga Wagga) 08/01/13 18:39
Posted: 08/01/2013

A bush fire is currently impacting isolated properties to the north west of Tarcutta township along the Mates Gully Road.

Current Situation

Isolated rural properties to the north west of Tarcutta township along the Mates Gully Road are still under threat from this fire.

Residents in the area are advised to shelter in place as the fire impacts. It is too late to leave the area.

The immediate threat to Tarcutta village has eased as weather conditions improve. Firefighters have been backburning this afternoon to try and contain the fire's spread.

Under these conditions, fires are uncontrollable and move quickly. Embers will be blown up to 4km ahead of the fire, creating spot fires that will move quickly and in different directions. These spot fires may threaten your home earlier than the predicted main fire front.

The Hume Highway has been reopened to traffic.

Advice

    Act immediately. You are in danger.
    Homes are not designed or constructed to withstand fire in these conditions.
    Even if your home is specially designed, constructed or modified to withstand a fire and is properly prepared, it may not offer safety from the fire.
     Protect yourself from the heat of the fire. If you are caught in the path of the fire, you may die or be injured.

Other information

    If your life is at risk, call Triple Zero (000) immediately.
    Continue to stay up to date with the bush fire situation by checking http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au, listening to your local radio station or by calling the NSW RFS Bush Fire Information Line on 1800 679 737.
    If you live in the area but are away from home, it may not be safe to return to your property.
    For information on road closures, check http://livetraffic.rta.nsw.gov.au. Roads may be closed without warning.

Watch & Act - Learys Lane grass fire (Upper Lachlan) 08/01/13 17:37
Posted: 08/01/2013

Firefighters are getting the upper hand on a grass fire burning near Range Road and  Leary Lane, Grabben Gullen (to the south of Crookwell).

Current Information

The fire near Range Road and  Leary Lane, Grabben Gullen (to the south of Crookwell) is burning in Catastrophic Fire Danger Conditions. 

More than 40 firefighters from the NSW RFS are working to contain the fire.

Under these conditions, fires are uncontrollable, unpredictable and fast-moving. Embers will be blown up to 20km ahead of the fire, creating spot fires that will move quickly and in different directions. These spot fires may threaten your home earlier than the predicted main fire front.

Advice

    Homes are not designed or constructed to withstand fire in these conditions. Even if your home is specially designed, constructed or modified to withstand a fire and is properly prepared, it may not offer safety from the fire.
    If you are in doubt or it is not safe to leave, take shelter in a solid structure when the fire front arrives. Protect yourself from the heat of the fire.
    If your life is at risk, call Triple Zero (000) immediately.

Other Information

    Continue to stay up to date with the bush fire situation by checking http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au, listening to your local radio station or by calling the NSW RFS Bush Fire Information Line on 1800 679 737.
    If you live in the area but are away from home, it may not be safe to return to your property.
    For information on road closures, check http://livetraffic.rta.nsw.gov.au. Roads may be closed without warning.

Watch and Act Bogan Gate (west of Parkes) 08/01/13 17:44
Posted: 08/01/2013

A number of fires have started along the railway line at Bogan Gate, west of Parkes.

Current Situation

Firefighters are working to contain a number of fires which have started along the railway line. The fires are burning to both the west and east of Bogan Gate.

Advice

If the fire impacts your property, seek shelter and protect yourself from the radiant heat.

 

Further information

    For information on road conditions or closures, please call the NSW RTA on 131 700 or check www.rta.nsw.gov.au. Remember roads may be closed without warning.

 

    If you need to report a new fire or require urgent assistance, dial Triple Zero (000).
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2013, 09:03:49 PM »
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2013, 09:12:13 PM »
Yeah, was doing that earlier, works well until someone posts up after you.

I allways had the habit of destroying old evidence tho!  ;D

Still a few going fires in Vic, Flora Hills @ Bendigo, and Walwa, Upper Murray.  Kentbruck (Portland) is now an Alert.

Have a safe night everyone.

Southerly Change is pumping thru NE Vic right now.
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2013, 10:04:15 PM »
29 degrees in Adelaide today, hope this reach NSW tomorrow to give the RFS guys some relief  tomorrow.

My son (CFS volunteer) is watching the events closely and he and my entire family are hoping for the best outcome for all concerned.

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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2013, 10:35:23 PM »
Awesome work there Macebook  ;D

Hope all the Swaggers and their familys and friends come through ok.
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2013, 01:20:48 PM »
Left Gillards Beach (Mimosa Rocks NP) yesterday at 9:30am. Rangers were encouraging (but not enforcing) camper departures. Park closed to new entrants. GG Patrol was due to leave today, and was hoping they'd let his group stay last night. At that stage there were no fires near Bega/Tathra, though clearly 1 flared up near Bega later in the day. (Hope you're home safe now Garrick).

On way home to Sydney, avoided the Princes Hwy due to Sussex Inlet fire, went via Kings Hwy/Braidwood/Goulburn. Very light traffic understandably. 'FiresNearMe' app had a new fire at Bungendore as we approached the area, but sighted no smoke or appliances on Goulburn Rd. Plenty of tree branches down with the strong norwester though. Made it home safe and thoughts are with folks who were/are fire affected.
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2013, 09:33:15 AM »
Left Gillards Beach (Mimosa Rocks NP) yesterday at 9:30am. Rangers were encouraging (but not enforcing) camper departures. Park closed to new entrants. GG Patrol was due to leave today, and was hoping they'd let his group stay last night.

We got to stay but it was a bit hairy for a while. First time I ever had had a fire plan in place as the smoke was coming in from the Bega fire keeping things on edge. Once the Southerly hit all was good though, warmest day for us under canvas though with 46 in the shade

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NSW Fires
« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2013, 12:29:32 PM »
It amazed me how hot it was on the coast,, very rare for Tathra to get so hot

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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2017, 04:36:04 PM »
Doesnt sound good...


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An out-of-control bushfire is threatening homes in Nowra on the NSW South Coast.

The Rural Fire Service has issued an emergency warning for the blaze that is burning near Filter Road, Depot Road, West Street, Shoalhaven Street and Plunketts Street in West Nowra.
 
The fire is moving in a North-Easterly direction towards West Street and Shoalhaven Street, Nowra.

Telephone warnings have been made to residents, instructing them to take shelter.

Firefighters are working to protect the homes with the assistance of Thor, the large air tanker, that is water bombing the area.

Motorists are being directed away from the area and students at the University of Wollongong's Shoalhaven campus are being told to reconsider travelling there. Those already on campus are being told to remain clam and stay alert.

"Under these conditions, fires are uncontrollable, unpredictable and fast-moving," the RFS said.

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"Embers will be blown up to four kilometres ahead of the fire, creating spot fires that will move quickly and in different directions.
"These spot fires may threaten your home earlier than the predicted main fire front."

The RFS said residents in the area of Filter Road and Cavanagh Lane should take shelter.

The fire is moving in a north-easterly direction towards West and Shoalhaven streets and residents in these streets should leave early, the RFS said.

"Well-prepared homes that are actively defended can provide safety but only stay if you are physically and mentally prepared to defend in these conditions," the RFS said.

Rural Fire Service crews were called to bush that was alight off Filter Road on three occasions on Friday and over the weekend.

Police have been investigating if the fires were deliberately lit by ****tards.


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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2017, 08:33:39 PM »
On the Northern Rivers we have been involved in Hazard Reductions and straight into  Wild Fires for over a month now with NPWS  and what may make the Parks haters happy Glady's and her Liberals are trying to gut hundreds of years of fire fighting experience from the ranks in a bid to make her budjet look good for the next election,
So there will be far less full time staff to fight fires do hazard reductions and do all the other behind the scenes work.
I obviously have a vested interest but just shy of 20yrs service teh majority of staff I work with treat the job as more then just a job
we are very proud of what we do andachieve for the public.
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2017, 08:44:12 PM »
Its amazing where Gov's try and save money... its never where it needs to be saved





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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2017, 09:04:19 PM »
On the Northern Rivers we have been involved in Hazard Reductions and straight into  Wild Fires for over a month now with NPWS  and what may make the Parks haters happy Glady's and her Liberals are trying to gut hundreds of years of fire fighting experience from the ranks in a bid to make her budjet look good for the next election,
So there will be far less full time staff to fight fires do hazard reductions and do all the other behind the scenes work.
I obviously have a vested interest but just shy of 20yrs service teh majority of staff I work with treat the job as more then just a job
we are very proud of what we do andachieve for the public.
Rant over
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Is the push to get rid off the RFS white collar staff or NPWS staff?
 Out of the loop of RFS politics now that I am no longer living in NSW and active as part of local brigade, although I am ready to return if the need arises.

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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2017, 09:02:19 AM »
On the Northern Rivers we have been involved in Hazard Reductions and straight into  Wild Fires for over a month now with NPWS  and what may make the Parks haters happy Glady's and her Liberals are trying to gut hundreds of years of fire fighting experience from the ranks in a bid to make her budjet look good for the next election,
So there will be far less full time staff to fight fires do hazard reductions and do all the other behind the scenes work.
I obviously have a vested interest but just shy of 20yrs service teh majority of staff I work with treat the job as more then just a job
we are very proud of what we do andachieve for the public.
Rant over
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Yep,
We have two Hut Maintenance days planned(Ramornie/Nymboida & Cunglebung), just hope we can get there and clean up around the huts before fire beats us to it.
The Grafton & Districts 4WD Club has a great relationship with NPWS Glenn Innes & Grafton employees, that has grown over the years.
We know what you guys on the ground are going through.

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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2017, 01:33:56 PM »
On the Northern Rivers we have been involved in Hazard Reductions and straight into  Wild Fires for over a month now with NPWS  and what may make the Parks haters happy Glady's and her Liberals are trying to gut hundreds of years of fire fighting experience from the ranks in a bid to make her budjet look good for the next election,
So there will be far less full time staff to fight fires do hazard reductions and do all the other behind the scenes work.
I obviously have a vested interest but just shy of 20yrs service teh majority of staff I work with treat the job as more then just a job
we are very proud of what we do andachieve for the public.
Rant over
Cheers
Grizzly  :cheers:

The other side of RFS, for me anyhow is the continual restrictions placed on trying to do a control burn off or hazard reduction or whatever it is called these days, a lot of the volunteers, the ones with their feet on the ground, on the fire ground just can't do what they want to do or what needs to be done.  Where there used to be regular burn offs around the area, there has been NO hazard reduction.  How can you keep Volunteers if they are not allowed to what needs to be done.  Being on stand by for the inevitable bushfire is NOT best practise. 
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2017, 01:52:24 PM »
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The other side of RFS, for me anyhow is the continual restrictions placed on trying to do a control burn off or hazard reduction or whatever it is called these days, a lot of the volunteers, the ones with their feet on the ground, on the fire ground just can't do what they want to do or what needs to be done.  Where there used to be regular burn offs around the area, there has been NO hazard reduction.  How can you keep Volunteers if they are not allowed to what needs to be done.  Being on stand by for the inevitable bushfire is NOT best practise.

The paper trail involved in arranging backburns when I left the RFS was incredible... The approval process was long and you knew it was always going to get to one place and be blocked. someone would find 1x rare fart fish in 1 puddle

People always miraculously find something when they wanna block things - one of the burns back the team tried to get approved in the 90's in the shire was blocked by someone finding a rare frog... months later massive fire ripped through with massive losses

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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2017, 02:27:58 PM »
I agree Bird, a cool burn can preserve so much while a hot burn destroys everything.  Thankfully we haven't had the later but I dread when it will come.  The other annoyance with the prescribed burns is if the date set aside is out of the prescription by one thing it is all tools down and go home and then wait for the next date to be set, which can be weeks later, if at all.  Before the RFS became so well managed, if the weekend was no good the next fine day the call would go out, regardless if it was a week day or not and you would still have more turn up then what you could hope for now. 

I was in the RFS but after a few years of NO burn offs like a lot of others, I left as I had other things to do.  Maybe now I am retired I may rejoin.
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2017, 11:25:03 AM »
one of the burns back the team tried to get approved in the 90's in the shire was blocked by someone finding a rare frog

One of the researchers at the Uni was a specialist in frogs & toads :-\

He had the knack of being able to find the same species of endangered frogs in the path of airport runway extensions, new motorways, proposed dams & all sorts of spots ::)

We always reckoned he kept them in a tank at home, let them out when he needed to complain about a project, then went back a week later to pick them up again >:D
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2017, 11:42:21 AM »
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One of the researchers at the Uni was a specialist in frogs & toads :-\

He had the knack of being able to find the same species of endangered frogs in the path of airport runway extensions, new motorways, proposed dams & all sorts of spots ::)

We always reckoned he kept them in a tank at home, let them out when he needed to complain about a project, then went back a week later to pick them up again >:D

Personally I have no doubt that happens - it wouldnt be hard to destroy any form of Shit you didnt want around your place... Hmmm the paddock over the back fence has just been sold for townhouses :( Wonder if your mate is available and what his rate of $ is...

Probably exactly the same bloke probably does the rare orchids around the Yerriyong motorcycle complex linked above...
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2017, 11:42:56 AM »
One of the researchers at the Uni was a specialist in frogs & toads :-\

He had the knack of being able to find the same species of endangered frogs in the path of airport runway extensions, new motorways, proposed dams & all sorts of spots ::)

We always reckoned he kept them in a tank at home, let them out when he needed to complain about a project, then went back a week later to pick them up again >:D

so the frog wasn't that rare if he could find them everywhere
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2018, 08:22:59 PM »
Nasty sounding one out Holesworthy heading south east - towards Menai/Sandy Point :(

dunno wat the weather is like, but if its windy as it is here it would be a ****in nightmare..


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An out of control bush fire is burning in the vicinity of Moorebank Avenue at Holsworthy, Wattle Grove.

Current Situation

A fast moving bush fire is travelling in a south easterly direction, in the vicinity of Moorebank Road at Wattle Grove.

Residents in the Wattle Grove community and the Holsworthy military complex are advised to shelter in place. It is too late to leave.

The fire has now crossed Heathcote Road and is moving towards Alfords Point, Menai, and Barden Ridge. Residents in this area should take shelter as the fire front approaches and protect yourself from the heat of the fire.

Residents in the Wattle Grove community, the Holsworthy military complex, Voyager Point, Pleasure Point and Sandy Point should shelter in place. It is now too late to leave.

Emergency Alert messages are being sent to people in the area.

Heathcote Road is now closed between Macarthur Drive and New Illawarra Road.

Advice

Put your Bush Fire Survival Plan into action. If you do not have a Bush Fire Survival Plan, know what you will do if the fire threatens your property.

Well prepared and actively defended homes can offer safety during the fire.

An Evacuation Centre has been set up at Moorebank Sports Club, 230 Heathcote Rd, Hammondville.

Other Information

    If your life is at risk, call Triple Zero (000) immediately.
    Continue to stay up to date with the bush fire situation by checking http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au, listening to your local radio station or by calling the NSW RFS Bush Fire Information Line on 1800 679 737.
    If you live in the area but are away from home, it may not be safe to return to your property.
    For information on road closures, check http://livetraffic.rta.nsw.gov.au. Roads may be closed without warning.

The next update on this fire will be issued by 14/04/2018 20:30 or if the situation changes.
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