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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #375 on: December 09, 2019, 08:04:27 PM »
At least they will be OK come summer      there's  FA left to burn
Now that the place has had a good clean out, maybe they will try to keep it that way





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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #376 on: December 09, 2019, 08:44:01 PM »
Quote from: Gazza00 on December 09, 2019, 08:04:27 PM
At least they will be OK come summer      there's  FA left to burn
Now that the place has had a good clean out, maybe they will try to keep it that way

Not all, just a fair chunk in places.  Plenty of unburnt bits in the mosaic. 
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #377 on: December 09, 2019, 10:12:37 PM »
Quote from: edz on December 08, 2019, 11:35:52 PM
Just trying to say, the mobs screaming about unprecedented man made temp / co2 and what ever else, heres the figure XYZ  to prove the rises and our points etc ..
 There is IMO no way those  figures  could be accurate and can be tagged as all man made..

So you're not a scientist, meaning you have no idea whatsoever how the figures you are talking about are actually attained - and because it's beyond your comprehension, you'll just call it a bunch of bullShit? Sorry mate but that's not a particularly constructive approach to the discussion. In all seriousness, the discussion really has to move on from that level - that's ten years ago, we have no time for it today.
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #378 on: December 09, 2019, 10:58:11 PM »
For those too lazy to look for themselves.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/what-exxon-knew-about-climate-change

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/15092015/Exxons-own-research-confirmed-fossil-fuels-role-in-global-warming

Google actuaries, reinsurers and global warming.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/rob-magazine/an-industry-that-has-woken-up-to-climate-change-no-deniers-at-global-resinsurance-giant/article15635331/

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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #379 on: December 10, 2019, 01:10:30 AM »
Quote from: glenm64 on December 09, 2019, 10:58:11 PM
For those too lazy to look for themselves.



None of it matters anymore mate as this year was the 30th anniversary of the UN announcement that we're all doomed anyway- 
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Some of you haven't experienced much dooming and may be inclined to panic and not accept the dooming but all I can say is stay calm for the young people and be stoic about it for their sakes. British stiff upper lip and all that as we experienced doomsters well know. During the Cold War we had to practice crouching under the school desks if we saw the flash and kissing our ass goodbye. Then there was the Club of Rome and running out of oil in the 70s and we'd all starve like Malthus warned-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_of_Rome

Followed by the worry about the coming of the next Ice Age with the cooling from the 1940s to the 1970s-
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Some of us seasoned veterans also survived the Adelaide Tidal Wave too even if we didn't join the preppers and head for the hills and had no internet to warn us all-
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Then there was Y2k when we had the computers to model all the potential dooming but that looked like we'd be doomed trying to do that.

Remember don't panic stay calm and let the dooming come to you so good luck to you all with the dooming and may your God travel with you  :cheers:
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #380 on: December 10, 2019, 04:23:30 AM »
Quote from: Pete79 on December 09, 2019, 04:10:50 PM
One conveys proven facts, the other is a proven lier.  ???

Professor Plimer;
"There is no problem with global warming. It stopped in 1998. The last two years of global cooling have erased nearly 30 years of temperature increase."
Reality;
The last decade 2010-2019 was the hottest on record.

Professor Plimer;
"Human additions of CO2 to the atmosphere must be taken into perspective.
Over the past 250 years, humans have added just one part of CO2 in 10,000 to the atmosphere. One volcanic cough can do this in a day."
Reality;


But I’m never going to convince you that Murdoch/Sky commentators are misrepresenting the facts to suit their agendas, and your never going to convince me that their opinions are actually science based facts.
How can you determine its the hottest on record? Records haven’t been kept for very long in Australia at all. Also the way temperatures are read has changed. The BOM have also admitted to fudging the figures. Talk about agendas.

Just by looking at the records I can see different states hottest days on records comprise of 1960 x 2 , 1939, 1889 unofficially in Cloncurry, 1998.

In January 1939, 1000 homes were destroyed by a bushfire in Victoria.

Even locally for me in the 1940s is the worst drought we have had, the dam went dry and the Hawkesbury river stopped flowing. There are pictures of this available.

You just preach the scaremongering line of climate change without doing any research because you are left leaning. Climate change is all about making money.


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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #381 on: December 10, 2019, 06:47:02 AM »
Quote from: Squalo on December 09, 2019, 10:12:37 PM
So you're not a scientist, meaning you have no idea whatsoever how the figures you are talking about are actually attained - and because it's beyond your comprehension, you'll just call it a bunch of bullShit? Sorry mate but that's not a particularly constructive approach to the discussion. In all seriousness, the discussion really has to move on from that level - that's ten years ago, we have no time for it today.


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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #382 on: December 10, 2019, 08:06:15 AM »
The Adelaide Tidal Wave that brings back memories, Jan 19th 1976 if my memory is correct, my first day of work as an apprentice cabinetmaker, asked the boss if he would sign my papers as qualified because we were all going to die at 11 am anyway.
Don Dunstan saved us all standing on the end of the Glenelg jetty. ;D
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #383 on: December 10, 2019, 08:29:12 AM »
I think that both sides of this debate are getting a little too carried away and personal.
Lighten up lads as our opinions are not going to change a thing.  :cheers: :cheers:
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #384 on: December 10, 2019, 08:40:24 AM »
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #385 on: December 10, 2019, 09:35:04 AM »
just adding fuel to the fire........... ;D ;D
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #386 on: December 10, 2019, 10:46:35 AM »
Still some nasty Shit happening out round Buchan :(


This Watch & Act message is being issued for Timbarra Settlement.

    There is a bushfire at 6km east of Ensay that is not yet under control.
    The bushfire is travelling in a easterly direction towards Timbarra Settlement.
    The fire has crossed Helipad Track heading towards Watts Creek Track
    Fire fighters are assessing the spread of the fire from yesterday.
    The Timbarra Road and the Bruthen-Buchan Road remains open at this stage. This may change subject to fire behaviour. 

Don't wait, leaving now is the safest option - conditions may change and get worse very quickly.

The Timbarra Road and the Bruthen-Buchan Road remains open at this stage. This may change subject to fire behaviour. 



https://www.emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/#!/warning/9590
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #387 on: December 10, 2019, 10:55:53 AM »
We live close to Sydney Harbour and the smoke coming in from the north west has brought visibility down to less than 500 metres. And it's getting worse every hour. Shopping malls in the burbs are starting to fill up with smoke.
My thoughts go out to the poor buggers who have to live through these fires and my admiration to the dedicated but exhausted firefighters.
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #388 on: December 10, 2019, 02:35:17 PM »




Mile Creek Fire, up road from hairs
Firefighters and aircraft working on the Myall Creek Road fire north of Maclean. Hot and dry conditions are fanning the fire
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #389 on: December 10, 2019, 03:08:31 PM »
At least water resupp is close ..
Helicopters all but drained the small dam at my Nephews place last week, Now him and his 15 yro son after nearly two weeks of fighting fires in the local area  are now faced with a fire aprox 500 m from their home and virtualy no water to fight it.
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #390 on: December 10, 2019, 03:10:41 PM »
Rain, a floods worth is the only thing that's going to put out these fires.
Crews are spent, but keep going.Communities are fearful, many are in disbelief how long this has been going on for.
Just saw some pictures of the country around Tommy's Rocks lookout, over looking the Newton Boyd area(upper Mann River), it looks like the Flinders Ranges, devoid of any vegetation or colour.


A bloke, Drew Cruchshank shared these pic of the country  looking from Toomy's Rocks.
The country is going to take along time recovery, if it does get a chance to.

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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #391 on: December 10, 2019, 03:13:22 PM »


Quote from: edz on December 10, 2019, 03:08:31 PM
At least water resupp is close ..
Helicopters all but drained the small dam at my Nephews place last week, Now him and his 15 yro son after nearly two weeks of fighting fires in the local area  are now faced with a fire aprox 500 m from their home and virtualy no water to fight it.

That's not good at all mate.
That's bad.
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #392 on: December 10, 2019, 04:22:58 PM »
I know alot of people have been effected by these fires. Jezuz alot of country has been burnt.
Not much of the Clarence Valley has been spared.
It has nearly made it from coast to the Great Dividing Range to the coast again.
Take care guys & girls.

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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #393 on: December 10, 2019, 05:20:14 PM »
Lets hope these storms don't cause more heartache.
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #394 on: December 10, 2019, 05:33:36 PM »
Quote from: Hairs on December 10, 2019, 03:10:41 PM
A bloke, Drew Cruchshank shared these pic of the country  looking from Toomy's Rocks.
The country is going to take along time recovery, if it does get a chance to.

Those images are phenomenal. :(
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #395 on: December 10, 2019, 06:04:28 PM »
Quote from: Pete79 on December 10, 2019, 05:33:36 PM
Those images are phenomenal. :(
Mate,
I've travelled that country a few times.
The landscape around Nymboida, I have been told is the same.
So would all the country that has suffered the furiey of these fires.
Ok, Sydney residents have endured smoke, many in NSW have lost more.
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #396 on: December 10, 2019, 06:13:11 PM »
I have no doubt that humans have and will continue to have a big impact on the earth, not just climate change, but in a multitude of ways.   But as the graphic below shows, the earth did pretty well without humans for a very very long time and I have no doubt it will do so again in the future.

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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #397 on: December 10, 2019, 06:31:42 PM »
Quote from: rockrat on December 10, 2019, 06:13:11 PM
I have no doubt that humans have and will continue to have a big impact on the earth, not just climate change, but in a multitude of ways.   But as the graphic below shows, the earth did pretty well without humans for a very very long time and I have no doubt it will do so again in the future.

Looks like f all from midnight to 11.58..43 and then humans!  So in 1 minute 17 seconds we certainly have screwed up big time.

What hope have we got when falous invisible mate is going to burn all the same sex voters and morrisson is throwing buckets of hope and sympathy at the fires.  We sure do have some Shit for brain people in charge of things..
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #398 on: December 11, 2019, 08:46:20 AM »
Quote from: Robbo on December 10, 2019, 08:29:12 AM
I think that both sides of this debate are getting a little too carried away and personal.
Lighten up lads as our opinions are not going to change a thing.  :cheers: :cheers:

See, it's all his fault :D

Look what that bloody cigarette did to the country round him :o
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Re: NSW Fires
« Reply #399 on: December 11, 2019, 08:50:45 AM »
Quote from: Hairs on December 10, 2019, 03:10:41 PM
A bloke, Drew Cruchshank shared these pic of the country  looking from Toomy's Rocks.
The country is going to take along time recovery, if it does get a chance to.

That is unbelievable :'(

& then, when it does rain, all the dirt is just going to wash down those hills, as there's nothing to hold it in place :'(
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