CUB independant suspension

[phillbie]

Anyone know of any issues with the independant suspension on the CUB Camper, am goind to get one but am still undecided about traditional leaf or go the independant.

[idlegossip]

Hi phillbie,

Have independent suspension on my Cub and love it. Rides well, and handles the off road stuff very well when we did the Cape trip in it last year. If you go this way get the stub axle offset welded to so you can put the same rims as your tow vehicle so then you can interchange between the trailer and car.

cheers

[fabulous]

We've got the independant on our camper as well.  Agree with idlegossip about the independant suspension, pretty good on road, hardly know the camper is there, but offroad is sensational.  Camper soaks up any corrigations / ruts etc.

well happy with it.

[phillbie]

Have noticed you are both grom Melb, is there a Cub Club or such in Melbourne cause it would be good to catch up and swap ideas, trips etc if there was.

[sablesoft]

Hi phillbie,

Have independent suspension on my Cub and love it. Rides well, and handles the off road stuff very well when we did the Cape trip in it last year.

cheers

Hi,

X2,

I am very pleased with independent suspension on my Cub Escape, It rides well following the car and is good on the rough.

I have Disk brakes on my Cub Escape, I now realise I would have been better going for the Drum electric brakes.

Ray

[phillbie]

Interesting you say that the disk is not your preference, seems a few people have come to that conclusion lately.

[Chris F]

I have Disk brakes on my Cub Escape, I now realise I would have been better going for the Drum electric brakes.

Why?

[GeeTee]

All things being equal, if you have the choice, always go for a solid axle and leaf springs under a trailer, especially one for remote area/arduous terrain use.

It is lighter, stronger, treats the tyres more kindly, has less components to go wrong (such as bushes) and is easier to both upgrade (if necessary) and to get parts for in the bush (...once again if necessary).

This of course assumes the manufacturer has correctly rated the springs to do the job with weight etc; spring rate is FAR more important than suspension architecture/layout

I've never seen a trailer with a steering wheel, or without a hitch, so any reference to 'handling' of a trailer is 

HTH

[sablesoft]

I have Disk brakes on my Cub Escape, I now realise I would have been better going for the Drum electric brakes.

Why?

Hi,

The disk brakes are mechanically operated by the weight of the trailer when stopping, you have no control. also hard to adjust and keep adjusted for best performance

The Drum electric brakes allow you to control the brakes and adjust the rate of breaking at any time, from a unit mounted on the dashboard.

Ray

[GeeTee]

Hi,

The disk brakes are mechanically operated by the weight of the trailer when stopping, you have no control. also hard to adjust and keep adjusted for best performance

The Drum electric brakes allow you to control the brakes and adjust the rate of breaking at any time, from a unit mounted on the dashboard.

Ray

On the contrary; Over-ride brakes are automatically self-proportioning so do not need (or rely on) any driver input. This is particularly important over varied terrian - and therefore various levels of available grip - that many off-road trailers are used on. This automatic self-proportioning results in better stability and less chance of jack-knifing over slippery terrain (escpecially downhill such as Vic high country)

Drums are more reliable/durable than many (but not all) trailer-spec discs; the disc brakes' pads often fret/vibrate over corrugations and eventually wear through the pads' mounting ears, allowing the pads to drop out of the calliper. Result: No brakes

[Chris F]

Hi,

The disk brakes are mechanically operated by the weight of the trailer when stopping, you have no control. also hard to adjust and keep adjusted for best performance

The Drum electric brakes allow you to control the brakes and adjust the rate of breaking at any time, from a unit mounted on the dashboard.

Ray

Hi Ray,
I agree with you. How about electric disk brakes? One of the reasons I chose my camper was this option. I use mechanically operated brakes on all my work trailers, and the two Kimberly Kampers I hired before buying one also had mechanical brakes. I prefer the extra control of electric brakes and less maintenance of disk brakes. I figure that drum brakes are almost a thing of the past in cars, so why do some of the top end campers still use them? Maybe GeeTee answered that. Also I believe that the "handling" remark is more about the movement of the trailer over bumps. I look at my trailer through the mirror while I'm being thrown around in the car and it is hardly moving. It means the beer won't get shaken up too much by the end of the day. I don't want to start an argument with GeeTee because he states valid points, but I do like my independent suspension and electric disk brakes 

[GeeTee]

Chris, the smooth ride of your trailer is due to good spring rate, not the fact it is independent.

With regard to brakes, the reason drums are not as common in cars is because of ABS and traction control systems; they need to 'cycle' many times per second (that's the pulsing when ABS or TC is engaged/operating) and this is far easier for a car manufacturer to engineer and control with discs 


 

[UIZ733]

I figure that drum brakes are almost a thing of the past in cars, 

How about dual Cab Utes..........including the most expensive marques?

[Chris F]

With regard to brakes, the reason drums are not as common in cars is because of ABS and traction control systems; they need to 'cycle' many times per second (that's the pulsing when ABS or TC is engaged/operating) and this is far easier for a car manufacturer to engineer and control with discs

Disk breaks took over from drums long before ABS and traction control made their way into our vehicles. I don't know of any vehicles that were manufactured with drums on the front for the last 20 years, and even longer for high performance vehicles. I guess disks could be cheaper than drums, but I doubt they are safer or the 5 star ANCAP rating would specify drums all round.