Education Cuts.. .Not good

[Bird]

Health and Education cuts...  Isn't good health and a good education the most important thing we can give our kids?

I can think of a dozen other Dept's that should be hit before that.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/queensland-budget-2012-reaction-20120911-25ph6.html
http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/ofarrell-takes-axe-to-education-20120911-25qof.html
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/health-education-cuts-horrify-swan/story-fn59niix-1226472168334

Very worrying for thousands of people with no job now and older people with little chance of finding much...
Then the story will be more taxes to pay for handouts.

Also, with 10,000's of jobs being cut in recent months, how can the jobs figures still be dropping?? Seasonally Adjusted? Just ****ing out and out lies?

[Jenko67]

Bligh and Fraser increased the public service by 40-50% since 2005 to boost the job numbers, real farce to make them look good... now that they have been found out it is a pity that the State couldn't keep paying them ...

[davethepom]

Leaving the politics aside (I don't believe any of them!), it's bloody terrible for all those families!

After redundancy payouts, then a significant percentage of those put out of work going on the dole,  I wonder what the real saving actually is??

My thoughts are with the families affected and I wish them the best of luck.

[bunyip]

I agree with davethepom, thoughts to the families affected by short term political gains.

IMO this is just another reason to shake up the political atmosphere is Australia. Get rid of State Governments, create super councils (lets say 5 or 6 for NSW) and have everything funded from the Feds.

Aside from the debate about which Feds we get (neither a good option at the moment IMO) this would reduce the spending on useless administration.

Bunyip

[xmasbaby67]

Didn't Julia tell us that all schools were going to get increases in funding with the implementation of the Gonski system.....eventually....and now our state govt is saying it's going to slash funding to schools and with what I saw on the news last night the poor public system is going to cop it again losing more funding than the private/independent/catholic schools??  Education & healthcare will only be for the rich soon.

The super councils will be just as bad as state govt to us folk in the bush as not much cash makes it over the mountains for anything!!!!!

[rotare]

Cuts to public servants will happen soon no doubt in SA too.  Since 2001 the number of public servants has increased by roughly 20,000 people (66,933 to 86,888), while the overal population growth has been minimal, and the general consensus being that the service provided to the public has become worse over time, not better.  No Olympic Dam expansion now for SA and a state budget that's looking at producing a deficit of close to a billion dollars ...... I'm sure it's only a matter of time before they bring the axe out. 

[Kit_e_kat9]

Why don't we just sack everyone and get a bunch of 5 year olds to run the country?  Oh, hang on, that's what the rest of Queensland did ... sorry ... forgot they all voted the other way   

Kit_e   

[Paul Mac]

Sorry people but when I studied economics........................you can't spend what you don't first receive in.

Australia has never had a debt the size that we now have and sooner or later it has to be repaid. It's now payback time 

[Hairs]

Get rid of State Governments, create super councils

Sorry mate, Can't agree with that.
Here on the Clarence we merged 5 councils and 2 water boards into one.
Merging the water boards was a good thing, can't say merging the councils has been as successful.
Where I am, we have become a nobody whats to know area of our council area, before we had our old shire council willing to help local businesses.
I do agree however something has to change, just look at the sad choice of candidates that stood for local government last weekend(NSW) and this is reflected at all levels of government.
How the hell have i got into this thread, It's beers time.
See ya's
 

Hey Paul Mac,
This will make you want a beer too.
Labor’s $120bn budget blowout
But you, like a lot of us could see this coming.
 

Edit, Still trying to work out how I got in here 

 

[LB]

I wouldn't have an issue with cutting catholic and independant school funding if the extra funds were going to improve the public system. The reason I sent my children to independant schools is because the state high schools out my way are crap.

Alas in their great wisdom they are cutting both. Clearly their education was also lacking.

LB

[Mrs smith]

MOI
I recon the problem with this country is we have to many smart people already. What we need is a
generation or two that want to work, instead for coming up with crap like OHS warning stickers
and trying to make everyone somehow accountable or some new rule or law that covers everyone
for one nobs mistake.
Yer and whats wrong with if you don't like the job p!ss off and find another one instead of taking
an employer to "Fairwork Work Oz".
Bring back Tech schools, and fine the crap out of idiots that do the wrong thing after there
done it, make an example of them instead of nannying everyone. 

[dazzler]

MOI
I recon the problem with this country is we have to many smart people already. What we need is a
generation or two that want to work, instead for coming up with crap like OHS warning stickers
and trying to make everyone somehow accountable or some new rule or law that covers everyone
for one nobs mistake.

And when its your loved one that is dead because of the nobs mistake I take it you will think thats fine.

Come on.  I know your smarter than that 

[Mrs smith]

And when its your loved one that is dead because of the nobs mistake I take it you will think thats fine.

Come on.  I know your smarter than that 

So what your saying is that there's no accidents now with the crap we have inplace ?
What happened to families nurturing and teaching whats right, good and ethical, that's right
we now pay someone to teach that, so we have someone to blame. 

[toeball]

MOI
I recon the problem with this country is we have to many smart people already. What we need is a
generation or two that want to work, instead for coming up with crap like OHS warning stickers
and trying to make everyone somehow accountable or some new rule or law that covers everyone
for one nobs mistake.
Yer and whats wrong with if you don't like the job p!ss off and find another one instead of taking
an employer to "Fairwork Work Oz".
Bring back Tech schools, and fine the crap out of idiots that do the wrong thing after there
done it, make an example of them instead of nannying everyone.

OHS, it used to be called natural selection, it's a shame as dazzler said when the mupett survives and takes out someone who should be saved!

[griz066]

Can do is trying to fix the problems caused by 24 years of Shitty labour rule. You can't have your cake and eat it too..

[dazzler]

So what your saying is that there's no accidents now with the crap we have inplace ?
What happened to families nurturing and teaching whats right, good and ethical, that's right
we now pay someone to teach that, so we have someone to blame.

No I was pointing out how ridiculous your statement was. OHS saves lives. Simple.

[OzJeeper]

Queenslanders are now going through a "Jeffed" scenario.  How many did he slash and burn in the public and education sector?  The Victorian state and people moved on and survived.....

[Mrs smith]

No I was pointing out how ridiculous your statement was. OHS saves lives. Simple.

Of course some OHS is a good thing, it's part of being educated or should be. I just think it's an insult to make it law.
Being tough, to be responsible for your own actions would be cheaper and more beneficial.
With all the techo advancement made over the last tens years or so and now there talking
about class sizes be reduced to 24, so every school would need more class rooms and even
more teachers to do the same job.

[McGirr]

It is regrettable that people will lose their job and I feel sorry for the families who will be affected by theses loses but like any business if cuts have to be made to keep the debt manageable then it must be done.

We can argue for ever that it was labors fault etc but at the end of the day we have too much debt that must be reduced.

We know the cuts will not be popular but a lot of other business will also be indirectly affected through these loses.


Mark

[nbd73]

Was just wondering what the difference between a tax payer funded state government job and a tax payer funded dole payment was.  Both jobs are paid for by the private sector, the only difference is that the gov job pays a lot more than the dole so therefore must be justifiable by productivity and/or benefit to community?
Also, when private sector, small scale business cull jobs due to recession/financial difficulty no one raises an eyebrow, yet govt do the same then it's suddenly the end of the world?
Food for thought.....

[Estelle]

This is all very cyclical. Goes around and around, just different administrators, pollies etc.

Pollies seem to forget their social responsibilities and requirements. Teach the young, maintain health, irrespective as to whether it is local, State or Federal Govts.

Maybe they just need to be reminded every now and then. It is up to us to remind them, or do we forget our real responsibilities as well.

[SteveandViv]

Health and Education cuts...  Isn't good health and a good education the most important thing we can give our kids?

I can think of a dozen other Dept's that should be hit before that.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/queensland-budget-2012-reaction-20120911-25ph6.html
http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/ofarrell-takes-axe-to-education-20120911-25qof.html
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/health-education-cuts-horrify-swan/story-fn59niix-1226472168334

Very worrying for thousands of people with no job now and older people with little chance of finding much...
Then the story will be more taxes to pay for handouts.

Also, with 10,000's of jobs being cut in recent months, how can the jobs figures still be dropping?? Seasonally Adjusted? Just ****ing out and out lies?

lots of those jobs come from the back end processes that have been turned into bureaucratic nightmares over time. No one has said front line jobs are going. I have to deal with the government funding bodies for what we do in the Kimberly to support all Health government health clinics throughout NW WA. There is nothing nice about some one loosing their job at all but if you had to (and maybe you do lost, I don't know) go through the BS to get stuff done in Health here then you may actually support the 'refresh' this would give QLD health. Lots are the same from here to there, trust me, we all talk. Not saying it will but .....

[Spurio]

While the costello audit remains as expected a politically bias report into how terrible the previous labor government treated the queensland economy. The actual state of affairs in comparison to other australian states remains questionable. Things that need to be taken into OVERALL account need to reflect the GFC, resources (PP & Mining) wide spread flooding, cyclones and most likely the wild fires the state has/will need to fund recovery.

After time, no matter which side of the political specturm, all government waste money and funny enough there is never any shortage of private businesses lining up to grab as much as they can.

The Newman government has slashed significant funding to capital works, regional services and programs, many of which are contracted by the private sector, the delayed fall out of this into the private sector will be 12-18month and is difficult to estimate.

The cuts that are most disturbing are to the limited emergency services (QFRS, Ambos, EMQ etc) in regional areas. In two weeks time after the redundencies take effect, when you are travelling in the regions and have an accident or require emergency help - Good Luck !!

[krisandkev]

I don’t agree with all of the cuts in Qld, but I am concerned that the unions are stirring things up so much.  People need to remember that the unions are closely linked to the Labor party and could have a political agenda. 
It is true that public servants once felt safe in their job, but that is no more.   Maybe not such a bad thing?  There are a lot of hard workers in the public service, but there are a lot of lazy ones as well that were safe in the knowledge they could not be sacked. Maybe they have to just get use to the real world.  But I do feel sorry for the ones that are made redundant; it is never nice losing your job.
I was in the public service but I still remember when I was in the building game and never feeling safe in my job.  When work ran out, you were made redundant and there was no such thing of a redundancy payout!
Kevin

[xmasbaby67]

From memory when the Fed Liberal Govt was voted out our country had a nice healthy surplus......but alas in Labor's pathetic rule they have thrown it all away to try to buy votes.  Their money management skills are absolutely appauling and disgraceful.

If I did this in my business I would now be homeless & accountable for my actions but these muppets get away with it and are now telling us that we have to tighten our belts......when they are getting payrises not to mention also a higher percentage of employer super than the average worker...... we are putting people off?? Does my head in.

Also slashing TAFE funding in NSW is only going to make the skills shortage worse.........Then stoopid Gina (no filter from brain to mouth) Reinhart will have no option but to pay people overseas $2- per day to work.... and make even more of a motza?

Politicians drive me insane!!!!