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Offline Hosko

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Campertrailer types of finishes...
« on: August 28, 2012, 10:11:33 AM »
Ok so very much a newbie to this and will rack a few of your minds for some answers!

So before I start, will say thank you to anyone who can assist.  :cheers:

I have seen online that there are different types of finishes to the actual trailers.

Standard Powder coat finish - which I am going to guess might chip and rust
Hammertone finsih - unsure still what this is? Is it harder version of standard powder coating?
Galvanised Checker plate finish - Is there a difference in the thickness (3 or 2mm?) and I gather this doesn't rust easily
Stainless Steel finish - Well I am work out that if the Stainless is of a good quality then it will not rust but is probably very expensive.

Drawbar

What type of Drawbar should I be looking for? Is there generally a better quality type of one than another?

Tent:

14oz v 15oz
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15 on top and 12oz on walls?

Curious if there was something I should more or less be looking out for?

Basically we are moving from out 10 man tent to something with a few more mod-cons but being our first CT, don't want to blow the bank account out of the water.

A sales person will always blow wind up their own stock, however an owner will tell the truth which I suppose what these forums are for. Just don't want to be diddled basically!! :)

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Re: Campertrailer types of finishes...
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 10:56:19 AM »
G'day Hosko,
Welcome to Myswag. Can't help you on all your questions, but...
For finish, I'd stick with the Hammertone.  Easier to touch up (than powder coat) if need be and the surface finish hides imperfections.
For canvas, usually thicker the better. Our's is the 12/15 (walls/roof) combo. Lot's of debate on Aus vs O/S made canvas...
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Re: Campertrailer types of finishes...
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 11:08:54 AM »
Gal chassis and hammertone paint top is what I'd go for. Failing that as mentioned painted finish for ease of touch up.
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Re: Campertrailer types of finishes...
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 01:44:41 PM »
Hi Hosko

Some good questions asked.

My 2c.

Drawbars - Australia mostly uses triangular ones whereas the US uses a single larger one.  I like the triangle ones that we use here.  Make sure its tagged into the front spring hangers.  100x50x3mm is fine.  The length question often comes up with drawbars.  The minimum should be 1500mm from the front of the trailer body.

Finish - Powdercoating is good.  Wouldn't go with gal myself as the costs are high and you dont generallly get the investment back when you sell.  You also need to drill 10mm holes at each end of any pipe so that adds a place for water to get in.  I paint my trailers with killrust three stage system which is a rust converter (if needed) followed by a primer and then top coat.  You can touch these up whenever you want which is good for the DYIer.

Have you thought of buying the trailer and tent seperate and fitting the tent yourself.  This way you can find a good trailer builder, have them build it exactly to your specs with whatever you want on it and then buy a tent for the top.  You can then go cheap, middle range or high end with the tent.  My last soft floor was an oztrail and it was pretty damn good.  Not as good as the aussie made canvas tents but way better than the ebay cheapos.

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Re: Campertrailer types of finishes...
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 02:13:27 PM »
Re Drawbars,

Some "budget" manafacturers use a "bent" A frame arrangement, where the A frame arms run back to the leading edge of the tub and then are curved or "angled" (via a V cut and welds) back to the front spring hanger (as mentioned by Dazzler).

I personally prefer the straight A frame arm arrangement, where, each A frame arm runs straight back to the front spring hanger without any bends/cuts/welds.  I think this is a stronger arrangement (like as shown in Dazzlers signature pic.)
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Re: Campertrailer types of finishes...
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 03:33:28 PM »
Hi Hosko,

Our CT is a fully-powdercoated trailer. It's great - the powercoat is super hard and less likely to chip than paint. The downside is that once is does chip, it's impossible to touch up. You can't just buy a can of powdercoat and put it on - it's baked on. So you just touch it up with paint. It doesn't look as nice, but it protects just as well.

Of course, we got a fancy two-tone powdercoat, so the touchups stand out. If you get a flat powdercoat, paint touch-ups are much less noticeable.

Worth noting too is the actual construction materials used to build the trailer. So for our Tracky, they use galvanised "Zincaneal" steel RHS and sheet when building it, vs "normal" raw steel. This means that where I do get stonechips in the powdercoat, 9 times out of 10 it just chips through to the zinc gal coating, not to bare metal. Not as good as hot-dip galvanising the finished product, but heaps better than a thin coat of paint over raw steel.

Paint is the basic finish - nothing wrong with it, and easy to touch up afterwards. Hammertone is just a different type of paint, it's stippled so it's more forgiving of an uneven surface. IE, if you painted over some of my DIY jobs, they'd look terrible because you would see every single mistake. If you used hammertone, it would hide all my dodginess and look good. Because of this it's also much easier to touch up a section without having it stand out from the original paint. Hammertone is generally a bit harder, so it resists cracking/chipping better (but when it does chip, it chips bigger).

Galvanising is great, but as Dazzler says it's not without it's own issues. A lot of gal trailers up here, because they cope so well with the rain and the terrible conditions. But they cost more. These days, Trackabout do a gal chassis with a powdercoated tub - that's the best of both works in my mind.

Stainless is very expensive, plus there's concerns about how it (as a material) handles stress/corrugations/etc. Stainless can get brittle if the engineering/design isn't right. Likewise aluminium - wonderful if done right, but needs to be done right. Both those materials have questions over bush-repair-ability.

NB - The above paragraph is referring to using stainless/aluminium as a chassis/load-bearing material. If you just want to use it as panels, then it's a great option. I've got Al checkerplate all over the front and leading edges (IE, the ones likely to get blasted with stonechips) of the trailer, and love it. No rust, no needing to touch up, etc. I believe the current Trackabouts have stainless trim just for something different.

Hope that sheds some light. I'm not going to get into the canvas question, as I think the others have answered it well.

Good luck!
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