Author Topic: Best 4WD for police duties in Alpine/Bush area??? (Read 28394 times)

Jason B · « **Reply #75 on:** July 31, 2012, 01:46:02 PM »

Quote from: wyno on July 31, 2012, 07:56:22 AM

Unfortunately Jason B, its not our fault. We will get the people out regardless of protocol but as far as their vehicles go, we have to leave them. Not allowed to winch them out. OH&S. Remember last year when one of our ministers got lost in the bush so they spent tens of thousands on a drone to locate him. Could have bought a few capable fourbys for that.

Same rules of engagement as NSW Wyno but in reality if its an easy recovery in an isolated area the NSW Police have always been willing to help (what happens on tour stays on tour). In reality it is much easier for them, the alternative of running a family of 4 back into town (an hour or more away) in a police vehicle is not tenable. This approach makes much more sense than tying up a Police vehicle for 2 hours that is now not able to attend to any other jobs especially when the police have come from a one man country station.

regards

jas

fuji · « **Reply #76 on:** July 31, 2012, 02:04:56 PM »

Quote from: Jason B on July 31, 2012, 01:46:02 PM

Same rules of engagement as NSW Wyno but in reality if its an easy recovery in an isolated area the NSW Police have always been willing to help (what happens on tour stays on tour). In reality it is much easier for them, the alternative of running a family of 4 back into town (an hour or more away) in a police vehicle is not tenable. This approach makes much more sense than tying up a Police vehicle for 2 hours that is now not able to attend to any other jobs especially when the police have come from a one man country station.

regards

jas

Too true Jas but I have been counselled a couple of times. Its got to a point where you do your job and go home. Sad state of affairs. One day I will relay an interesting story to you. I won't put it on paper. So when we meet up just remind me.

Wayne

achjimmy · « **Reply #77 on:** July 31, 2012, 03:11:45 PM »

offcourse I would imagine if the vehicle was blocking the track or in a dangerous position it would be prudent to relocate it?

efjay · « **Reply #78 on:** July 31, 2012, 04:24:55 PM »

Quote from: Mace on July 31, 2012, 11:11:43 AM

x3 for the jeep.

allready been done in Vic (Falls creek)

common stateside.

Id get the optional Hardtop!!

NICE..

Jason B · « **Reply #79 on:** July 31, 2012, 04:48:09 PM »

Quote from: wyno on July 31, 2012, 02:04:56 PM

Too true Jas but I have been counselled a couple of times. Its got to a point where you do your job and go home. Sad state of affairs. One day I will relay an interesting story to you. I won't put it on paper. So when we meet up just remind me.
Wayne

Will do mate. It has always been hard to fathom that we can justify upgraded 76 series cruisers for our duties which relate to fish, and you guys can't get the same level of support from your management when lives may depend on it. The stupid part is we can justify our vehicles and its supported by risk assesements and operational need. How can this not be that case for the Police? We work in the same terrain.

Don't get me wrong we are under the pump all of the time to down grade by the bean counters, however at the moment our bosses were field officers so they are understanding of the issues. It will be a different kettle of fish (I made a funny) when the bean counters are steering the ship.

rescue1 · « **Reply #80 on:** July 31, 2012, 09:26:25 PM »

Well despite my personal drive being a Navara I've driven everything from Landcruisers to Unimogs and I'd have to say based on my current work car the MB G-Wagen will get you in and out of almost anywhere

Tim - Stratford · « **Reply #81 on:** August 01, 2012, 11:21:39 AM »

R1,

Not quite enough $$$ to extend that far....

Thankfully they didn't go with these....(promo from Hummer a few years back)

BigJules · « **Reply #82 on:** August 01, 2012, 01:05:08 PM »

I am surprised that a 76 wouldn't be an acceptable vehicle. It sounds as if the requirements cannot be met by any production vehicle, in which case there must be a compromise; revise the requirement or increase the budget.

What was that sign? "OH&S; creating a nation of wimps".

fuji · « **Reply #83 on:** August 01, 2012, 01:44:39 PM »

Quote from: Tim - Stratford on August 01, 2012, 11:21:39 AM

R1,

Not quite enough $$$ to extend that far....

Thankfully they didn't go with these....(promo from Hummer a few years back)

Lurking in the back blocks of Dawson St again? Hey is that my old booze bus I use to drive? Yep, all of them.

Matto · « **Reply #84 on:** August 01, 2012, 01:51:59 PM »

I'll throw my hat into the ring for the Defender. Landie jokes aside, when talking standard 4WDs there's not much that can compare to a Deefer. All the options (inc mud tyres, winches, bars, etc) are all factory options. Small TD motor should help appease the bean counters. Big enough cargo are to haul all the gear you may or may not need.

Of course, I've got no idea what the standard safety spec for a Defender 110 is these days. I believe they have ABS, but no idea if you're talking Traction Control, or any of the fancy Terrain Response that the Disco gets. All I know is that I've seen the video of the fancy anti-stall system working, and it looks idiot proof.

I'd be tempted by the 200GX, simply because of all it's fancy electronics.

Good luck with whatever you can convince the Powers That Be you need!
Matto

Bird · « **Reply #85 on:** August 01, 2012, 03:23:15 PM »

Quote from: BigJules

It sounds as if the requirements cannot be met by any production vehicle, in which case there must be a compromise

agree...

Good luck with it though.

Brett B · « **Reply #86 on:** August 01, 2012, 03:41:55 PM »

What about one of these
Its has 4x4 and diff locks on the arse
Might be a bit tight on some corners
Spent a sh%* load of hours on this trailer
We made a lot of special vehicles for Vicpol

Matto · « **Reply #87 on:** August 01, 2012, 04:13:10 PM »

Quote from: Brett B on August 01, 2012, 03:41:55 PM

What about one of these

It's OK, but I'd be concerned about cargo capacity for it. Some of these guys need to carry a heap of gear, I'm not sure if you'd squeeze it all into the back of that.

Cheers!
Matto

Brett B · « **Reply #88 on:** August 01, 2012, 04:14:33 PM »

You might be right there
They need 2 of them

Swannie · « **Reply #89 on:** August 01, 2012, 04:23:46 PM »

They are nice inside

fuji · « **Reply #90 on:** August 01, 2012, 05:21:08 PM »

Quote from: swannie OB on August 01, 2012, 04:23:46 PM

They are nice inside

Can't say its been around the northern suburbs. Is that an education unit? Or a mobile police facility?
Wyno

Brett B · « **Reply #91 on:** August 01, 2012, 05:37:22 PM »

Quote from: wyno on August 01, 2012, 05:21:08 PM

Can't say its been around the northern suburbs. Is that an education unit? Or a mobile police facility?
Wyno

Hey Wyno
Its a mobile police facility
Mobile comand unit
They had it up at Whittlesea after Black Saturday

Bird · « **Reply #92 on:** August 01, 2012, 05:50:01 PM »

Quote from: wyno on August 01, 2012, 05:21:08 PM

Can't say its been around the northern suburbs. Is that an education unit? Or a mobile police facility?
Wyno

could be a large smoking unit...

MDSimpson · « **Reply #93 on:** August 01, 2012, 06:25:12 PM »

Quote from: Brett B on August 01, 2012, 03:41:55 PM

What about one of these
Its has 4x4 and diff locks on the arse
Might be a bit tight on some corners
Spent a sh%* load of hours on this trailer
We made a lot of special vehicles for Vicpol

Shepparton Motor Body Builders??
Did they do this one??

Brett B · « **Reply #94 on:** August 01, 2012, 06:29:30 PM »

Quote from: MDSimpson on August 01, 2012, 06:25:12 PM

Shepparton Motor Body Builders??
Did they do this one??

Was built at Rambler concept vehicles Campbellfield

fuji · « **Reply #95 on:** August 01, 2012, 06:51:33 PM »

Quote from: Brett B on August 01, 2012, 05:37:22 PM

Hey Wyno
Its a mobile police facility
Mobile comand unit
They had it up at Whittlesea after Black Saturday

Didnt do NWS after the fires, we hung around Strathewen,Kinglake area. Thats why I never saw it. They must keep it in the other carpark.
Wayne

Brett B · « **Reply #96 on:** August 01, 2012, 07:56:38 PM »

I think they store it at Dawson St

Eski · « **Reply #97 on:** August 01, 2012, 08:01:04 PM »

Why not use what the local rangers use? They live and work up there so they should know what works...

The local Rangers I ran into at Christmas were using Patrols....

speewa158 · « **Reply #98 on:** August 02, 2012, 04:26:40 AM »

How do we get into the Dawson st field of dreams , sounds as though there is lots of fun rigs there .

cm4x4nut · « **Reply #99 on:** August 02, 2012, 08:39:01 AM »

If they are serious about no modifications then you really are looking at either the defender or the jeep. All things aside, they would be the most capable 4WD's straight off the factory floor.

If you are alowed some basic mods, like suspension and tyres, then the 200GX would be my pick.

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Author Topic: Best 4WD for police duties in Alpine/Bush area??? (Read 28394 times)

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