Author Topic: Puncture repair kit (Read 14111 times)

Ricklanga · « **on:** July 07, 2012, 07:59:54 PM »

My boss sent me to roofracks galore on Wednesday & while I was there I bought myself one of those puncture repair kits. The next morning when I went to the car to leave for work there was a 3 inch screw in my rear passenger side tyre :-( Lucky for the repair kit I purchased the day before I was up & running in no time.

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Richard

D4D · « **Reply #1 on:** July 07, 2012, 08:03:07 PM »

I love those plugs.

You're supposed to get it fixed 'professionally' as the plug is a temporary fix.

MarkGU · « **Reply #2 on:** July 07, 2012, 08:07:58 PM »

Quote from: D4D on July 07, 2012, 08:03:07 PM

I love those plugs.

You're supposed to get it fixed 'professionally' as the plug is a temporary fix.

D4D
i used one of those kits ( many years ago when i was racing speedway) one night to temporarily fix a tyre........was still in there next meeting and was still in there for the rest of the season.
got my vote with them from then on

Ricklanga · « **Reply #3 on:** July 07, 2012, 08:11:31 PM »

I've done repairs with them before & drove around for years without problems. $35 for the kit with enough plugs for a dozen or so repairs compared to around $40 for a professional job I think I'll risk doing it myself.

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Richard.

Jeepers Creepers · « **Reply #4 on:** July 08, 2012, 04:57:42 AM »

The issue you have is, by not taking the tyre off the rim, you don't know what damage has occurred to the internal wall of the tyre.
I did 5 years at a Bob Jane T-mart and when the tyre has been driven on for a period of time with an object poking around at the side wall every revolution, it gouges out the tyre.

My wife had a quickie plug done once on the run, a few hours later, we pulled the tyre and yep, it was a shot duck. The screw had almost punched through the sidewall after coming in through the tread.

But, having said that, i do carry a quickie kit in the work car and the 4WD for an urgent fix. (Never had to yet)

For safety sake, i would always have the tyre repaired by a pro as soon as i was able.

fuji · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2012, 09:02:29 PM »

Looking for a Rema Repair kit, where I can I get one?
Wayne

Metters · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2012, 10:10:49 PM »

Richard

Plug kits are great but they are only one of many products for fixing punctures. How many plugs do you think you would need to fix the puncture in the photo? That type of puncture is a real possibility when driving in any wooded area. Bigger holes than that can be fixed to a standard well enough to get you out of the bush providing you have the right equipment. Many can then be repaired permanently and legally when you take the tyre to a company specialising in major repairs.

That photo came from Beadell Tours web site. The huge amount of tyre and puncture repair information on there site is well worth reading.

WYNO.

Ring Rema. They only have sales outlets in the capital cities but they have many mobile reps. I rang them a couple of years ago and they gave me the number of the one in my area. I was expecting to meet him when he called in to one of my local tyre services but he came to my home with a truck full of just about everything you could think of for repairing tyres.

Crockett · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2012, 10:27:31 PM »

Ive never found a tyre place that will repair any puncture not in the tread belt,,,,, meaning once its on the tread shoulder or sidewall they wont touch it.
If any one knows of a tyre place that will in WA Id be thankfull to hear of them. I have a brand new $450 tyre in the shed with a brad nail in the shoulder that I was told is not legal to fix.
Cheers Dave

SteveandViv · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2012, 11:08:34 PM »

I've used mine a few times as well, great piece of kit. I fact the camper still has a tyre with a lug in after I got a nail at Cape York last July. It's still there now and hasn't lost 1 iota of air. I realize your meant to replace them but I'm happy with the job I did. For side wall though I carry large patches and a spare tube. Obviously this is to jut get me to a place where I can change the entire tyre.

Jeepers Creepers · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2012, 06:30:00 AM »

Quote from: Crockett on July 08, 2012, 10:27:31 PM

Ive never found a tyre place that will repair any puncture not in the tread belt,,,,, meaning once its on the tread shoulder or sidewall they wont touch it.
If any one knows of a tyre place that will in WA Id be thankfull to hear of them. I have a brand new $450 tyre in the shed with a brad nail in the shoulder that I was told is not legal to fix.
Cheers Dave

That's the one spot most won't touch, as the there is no meat there to effect a safe repair.
I have seen the result of repairs performed inthat area.

Look at the bright side, $450, it's only money.
If you didn't spend it on a new tyre, you'd only waste it on food or electricity or some other trivial thing.

rodw · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2012, 06:42:41 AM »

Quote from: Crockett on July 08, 2012, 10:27:31 PM

Ive never found a tyre place that will repair any puncture not in the tread belt,,,,, meaning once its on the tread shoulder or sidewall they wont touch it.
If any one knows of a tyre place that will in WA Id be thankfull to hear of them. I have a brand new $450 tyre in the shed with a brad nail in the shoulder that I was told is not legal to fix.
Cheers Dave

No one tells you that a truck vulcaniser can repair this sort of damage. Look for a Bandag agent.

fuji · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2012, 09:11:05 AM »

Quote from: Metters on July 08, 2012, 10:10:49 PM

Richard

Plug kits are great but they are only one of many products for fixing punctures. How many plugs do you think you would need to fix the puncture in the photo? That type of puncture is a real possibility when driving in any wooded area. Bigger holes than that can be fixed to a standard well enough to get you out of the bush providing you have the right equipment. Many can then be repaired permanently and legally when you take the tyre to a company specialising in major repairs.

That photo came from Beadell Tours web site. The huge amount of tyre and puncture repair information on there site is well worth reading.

WYNO.

Ring Rema. They only have sales outlets in the capital cities but they have many mobile reps. I rang them a couple of years ago and they gave me the number of the one in my area. I was expecting to meet him when he called in to one of my local tyre services but he came to my home with a truck full of just about everything you could think of for repairing tyres.

Thanks Metters, will do. Start preparing now for next years trip.

Metters · « **Reply #12 on:** July 09, 2012, 10:33:52 AM »

Quote from: Crockett on July 08, 2012, 10:27:31 PM

If any one knows of a tyre place that will in WA Id be thankfull to hear of them. I have a brand new $450 tyre in the shed with a brad nail in the shoulder that I was told is not legal to fix.

Dave

Give Rema Tip Top a ring. They should be able to direct you to their customers who do major repairs. Your ordinary everyday tyre services won't do it. Your nail hole should be an easy repair. They will probably drill through the hole then fit the appropriate size stem plug through the tyre and reinfoced patch inside then vulcanise the whole lot. Whatever they do will be permanent and in accordance with the Australian Standards regulations.

That hole in the photo was repaired. It would have most likely been vulcanised with a large three ply patch and uncured rubber to fill and seal the sidewall.

REMA TIP TOP WA
2/1-9 Kurnall Road
Welshpool WA 6106
Ph. (08) 6253 1900
Fax (08) 9356 2831

I would suggest all of you read the tyre section in this site. http://www.beadelltours.com.au/tyre_information.html It is mainly based on extreme desert travel but contains a lot of useful information for all types of Outback four wheel driving including tyre repairs. I have not been able to find another site anywhere near as good as it.

Mace · « **Reply #13 on:** July 09, 2012, 11:27:09 AM »

If you read (and decipher) the Standard (AS 1973 of 1993), the maximum puncture sizes that can be legally repaired are generally (approximately and simplified):

Car (& 4WD) Tyre (Radial) Minor Repairs - up to 6mm damage in any direction
Major Repairs - 25 x 10 mm
No repairs permitted in shoulder/bead if penetration damage)

A major repair should be repaired by someone like Rema, as previously mentioned.

Any Major Repair is illegal if the tyre is V Rated or Higher!!

Light Truck Tyre Minor Repairs up to 8mm in any direction (185 tyres and above)
Major Repairs - vary on Ply

20 x 10 mm (6Ply),
thru to a maximum of
Light Truck Tyre 50 x 20mm (12 Ply)

There are a range of maximum repair sizes permitted between 6 and 12 ply, all depentant on punture location (tread, shoulder, sidewall). A volumetric approach is used (surface area of wound)

A legal minefield if youre not careful. glad im not still in the business!

Ricklanga · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2012, 06:49:37 PM »

Wow, I never expected such a wealth of info in response to my post & without even asking. Thank you all for your replies.

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Richard.

BigJules · « **Reply #15 on:** July 09, 2012, 07:10:33 PM »

I've used my kit so often I've had to buy more plugs twice. The last box from ARB should last a while though, it's huge. I've only had one puncture, in a tyre on my car carrier trailer, that I couldn't repair myself. Not sure why, just couldn't get the plug in after reaming it a bunch of times.

I have never bothered to get the tyre repaired any more than a plug, some have done 80,000km.

just startin · « **Reply #16 on:** July 09, 2012, 07:27:29 PM »

A bit off subject , I am getting gear ready for a trip away and went out to purchase 2 off 17" tubes for temperary repair of tyre( as well as patch) to get us out of trouble. Tried numerous tyre dealers and all said good luck trying to get them as they are not carried by anyone around here as its illegal to fit tubes for repairs and most 17" wheels are tubeless
Will be trolling the net trying to get a couple! Is what they correct?
Thank for your replies

Crockett · « **Reply #17 on:** July 09, 2012, 09:24:52 PM »

Thanks big time

BigJules · « **Reply #18 on:** July 09, 2012, 10:06:48 PM »

Quote from: just startin on July 09, 2012, 07:27:29 PM

A bit off subject , I am getting gear ready for a trip away and went out to purchase 2 off 17" tubes for temperary repair of tyre( as well as patch) to get us out of trouble. Tried numerous tyre dealers and all said good luck trying to get them as they are not carried by anyone around here as its illegal to fit tubes for repairs and most 17" wheels are tubeless
Will be trolling the net trying to get a couple! Is what they correct?
Thank for your replies

What about buying a spare carcass? Even old and worn out. How many spares do you have and how many do you think you need? Where are you going?

elle.mac · « **Reply #19 on:** July 09, 2012, 10:34:09 PM »

Is their a particular brand puncture repair kit that is better than the others on the market? When we head back to brissie in Sept/Oct to pick up our CT we got 700kms of dirt road with plenty of pot holes, creek crossings and corrugations just the things that like to have a bite of a tyre. ideally we would like 2 spares but $$ not possible so only going to have the one and will need to get a puncture repair kit as a back-up.

fuji · « **Reply #20 on:** July 10, 2012, 07:57:20 AM »

I believe Rema are top quality, Len Beadall uses them and he has been running tagalongs for a long time. Phone number earlier in this post.

Swaggie · « **Reply #21 on:** July 10, 2012, 08:58:12 AM »

Ive used my ARB Tyre repair kit on a couple of cars,mainly screws etc etc..There still going strong years later...

I think sidewall penetration is a different story...

Bird · « **Reply #22 on:** July 10, 2012, 09:03:29 AM »

I got one of the Rema Tip Top ones from Beaurepairs in Richmond... they had a few there.

Mace · « **Reply #23 on:** July 10, 2012, 09:33:50 AM »

Quote from: just startin on July 09, 2012, 07:27:29 PM

Tried numerous tyre dealers and all said good luck trying to get them as they are not carried by anyone around here as its illegal to fit tubes for repairs and most 17" wheels are tubeless

Probably down the right track. AS 1973 says:

For a tubeless tyre that has been repaired and then converted for use only as a tube type tyre, the word TUBELESS shall be removed" (from the outer of the carcass). So it can be done, but:

Bare in mind also what I said in my first post, Major repairs of V Rated and above passenger/4WD tyres (ie, most tyres) is illegal. In most cases, a tyre with a large puncture wound requiring a large inner patch/tube would be classed as a major repair, and so therefore illegal. A minor repair (plug patch) is fine, not a major one.

I would say that for peace of mind, most tyre dealers would say "no tube repairs". If I were (still) a Dealer Principal, I would want to know that every tyre that had left my shop with a major repair was safe and repaired to standard. The implications if it wernt dont bear thinking about. A minor plug repair will usually still deflate slowly if it fails, when a major repair blows, its usually kaboom, see you later

Different thing if youre out bush and running low on cases. If need be, I would patch and tube a tyre to get out of trouble, but I would only use it as a spare, and then, if need be, only use it on the rear if required. With regard to your issue, I would, if need be, put a 16inch tube on a 17inch rim. It will be a tight fit getting it over the rim, but will inflate sufficiently to get you OUT OF TROUBLE ONLY. Dont tell anyone else, OK?

fuji · « **Reply #24 on:** July 10, 2012, 09:58:01 AM »

Quote from: Lost on July 10, 2012, 09:03:29 AM

I got one of the Rema Tip Top ones from Beaurepairs in Richmond... they had a few there.

Going to ring them about tyres now and the repair kits.

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Author Topic: Puncture repair kit (Read 14111 times)