Hilux too fat (heavy)

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This has come to light form a service that I am associated with.

It has been identified that all Toyota Hilux Crew Cab 4WD’s exceed the
manufacturers front axle capacity in certain configurations. XXXXXX has
taken the position that this may create a Safety Risk to the operation of the
vehicle in certain configurations and has determined that all Toyota Hilux
Crew Cab 4WD Vehicles that are fitted with a bullbar and winch are to
be WITHDRAWN FROM SERVICE IMMEDIATELY.

Toyota Hilux Crew Cab 4 x 4 Vehicles that are fitted with a bullbar and
winch are to be WITHDRAWN FROM SERVICE IMMEDIATELY, THIS
WILL REQUIRE THE VEHICLE TO BE LOCKED UP AND KEYS to be secured.

Has any one got any infomation?
It seems Toyota are aware of this. It also seems that it is vehicles with steel bull bars and winches overload the front axils.
If you own one of these vehicles then I would be asking Toyota some questions and make sure you don't let them say there is no problem.

Any Comments??
Regards
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[BigJules]

A mate of MOTO MOTO's posted something about this a few weeks ago.

I think some of the reaction is simply individual companies OHS going too far.

http://news.toyota.com.au/hilux-front-axle-capacity-increase

[D4D]

DSE and CFA withdrew them from service in March, OH&S gone mad. There are thousands of Hiluxes with steel bars, winches etc tested and proven all over Aus. Because Toyota says so they're out of service...

[fuji]

DSE and CFA withdrew them from service in March, OH&S gone mad. There are thousands of Hiluxes with steel bars, winches etc tested and proven all over Aus. Because Toyota says so they're out of service...

I think that is why DSE are buying Workmates, there was a couple in Benalla Toyota being worked on.

[Bird]

DSE and CFA withdrew them from service in March, OH&S gone mad. There are thousands of Hiluxes with steel bars, winches etc tested and proven all over Aus. Because Toyota says so they're out of service...

There should be some low KLM cheap ones going, since they are not roadworthy

[grizzly]

Its not only the Hilux my employer has spent approx $4000 per vehicle( approx 350) to upgrade the mighty V8 landcruiser utes to over come the same problems, they are overweight on the front axle with steel bull bars and winches and a steel tray before you add passengers. We also had to reposition all our fire units approx 150 mm back to conter the issue as well. Toyota has some troubles to sort as insurance could be void if the vehicle is found to be over weight in a go bad
Grizzly

[Brij]

Just need to stick some lead wieghts behind the rear axle to conteract the extra mass of bar and winch on the front. This will make the OH+S beancounters happy (and make the vehicle even less stable in the real world)

Peter H

[Mace]

As an OHS Professional I resemble that remark!   

Who says Ive got too much mass on my front and rear end??

 

[Crockett]

Just pull the Toyota badge off,,, fixed   

[Kalebjarrod]

World gone mad

[flamingo]

   Buy Nissan!! Problem solved!! ha ha  Phil

[oldblade]

All brands are the same have a close look at the numbers And do your math put your family in the car then add your camper and camping gear
I went round and round in circles with weights then worked out the limits are not here for safety but for not being sued for Toyota and for not paying out insurance for insurance company's

[swanny]

   Buy Nissan!! Problem solved!! ha ha  Phil

Yep....!!!!!

[Metters]

If it is true it would not surprise me.  I remember many years ago while working for new car dealers, some cars had different front springs listed in the parts manuals depending on whether they had factory fitted air conditioning or not. 

We would occassionally see a Hiace van with a bull bar plus a spare wheel mounted on it.  There was a very noticable difference in the way they handled.

I don't know how much it takes to overload a Lux front axle but if it is over then it can lead to big problems.

[GeeTee]

If it is true it would not surprise me.  I remember many years ago while working for new car dealers, some cars had different front springs listed in the parts manuals depending on whether they had factory fitted air conditioning or not. 

We would occassionally see a Hiace van with a bull bar plus a spare wheel mounted on it.  There was a very noticable difference in the way they handled.

I don't know how much it takes to overload a Lux front axle but if it is over then it can lead to big problems.

yeah HQ Holdens had different front left (near-side) springs for A/C


FWIW TOYOTA HAS REVISED ITS FRONT AXLE LOADING SPECS TO CATER FOR WINCHES AND BARS

did we all hear that?

[Crockett]

Even my old (95) Track Eagle camper has a (don't sue the manufacturer) compliance plate,, according to the plate I can only put 100kg in it.
So with the canvas and a full water tank it would be overloaded