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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2012, 09:24:00 PM »
Fuchs right through with Sakura filters engine at 5000 fuel at 10000 and the rest at 20000

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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2012, 10:28:28 PM »
Penrite HPR Diesel, Every 5000k's with filter.
I also have 4 magnets around the oil filter.

Had the Big End Bearings done at 300 000k's, been using the Magnets since the old girl had 245 000k's on her, the Mechanic said the bearings were like new.
So I guess they don't do any harm & cost nothing.  ;D
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Good one Hairs :cup:, I thought I was an odd bod cause I have a couple of old hard drive magnets on my filters. Was never sure if they did anything, but figured it cant hurt  :cheers:

Me, I use HPR diesel and change oil and filters every 5000k
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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2012, 10:43:19 PM »

Good one Hairs, I thought I was an odd bod cause I have a couple of old hard drive magnets on my filters.
Was never sure if they did anything, but figured it cant hurt 


question: by putting the magnets on the metal filter case, as in the photo, doesn't that hold any metal after it has passed through the filter elemant ? ?


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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2012, 10:58:34 PM »
question: by putting the magnets on the metal filter case, as in the photo, doesn't that hold any metal after it has passed through the filter elemant ? ?

I thought the clean stuff came out the middle, thus the cleaning area is the larger (outer) surface area of the paper element, happy to be wrong though

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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2012, 11:10:03 PM »
I thought the clean stuff came out the middle, thus the cleaning area is the larger (outer) surface area of the paper element, happy to be wrong though

Yes, you would be correct  ;D
I always thought the oil was forced out through the centre of the 'hole' in the block, through the filter and returned via the dozen or so holes back to the sump
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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2012, 11:16:02 PM »
Could be correct, I just thought the oil was forced out through the centre of the 'hole' in the block, through the filter and returned via the dozen or so holes back to the sump.
Your way definitely makes more sense to me, as you say to be cleaned by the larger surface area  ;D

Just checked a filter after opening my big mouth via the keyboard  ;D, guessing a filter is not  something that gets a lot of attention on its own,,, and under the little holes surrounding the center one is a rubber non return, so once the oil is in, the only way out is through the center,,, now I know too,,, thanks Mainey  :cheers:

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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2012, 06:05:55 AM »
Sorry guys I don't have a picture for you of the inside of the filter taken after 5000k's with the magnets attached.
I cut the filter apart and found a browny/grey stain mark on the inside of the filter case where the magnets sat.
Found this picture on the net of the flow of oil through a filter.

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The oil enters the oil filter under pressure through the holes on the perimeter of the base plate. The "dirty" oil then passes through the filter media where it is "cleaned". It then flows  to the central tube and back into the engine through the usually threaded hollow center mounting stud.



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the only thing that magnets are good for is the removal of ferrous i.e. magnetic particles.
The only additional benefit is derived chemically but ONLY in a low quality lubricants.
This can in turn extend the service life of a lubricant with ineffective or marginal anti-oxidants.

Here is how it works:

Sub-micronic finely distributed iron particles act as a co-catalysts in oxidation of petroleum molecules

Removal of these fine iron particles from oil circulation, reduces the oxidation rate and therefore extends lubricant service life.

No special "MAGNETIC MAGIC" performed here, just a simple chemical reality! 

Picture and quote taken from.
ALL ABOUT OIL FILTERS
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Below is a Ryco filter.  I use a Z334 on my 1HD-T.

Ryco FAQs[/color]]
« Last Edit: June 06, 2012, 07:50:40 AM by Hairs »
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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2012, 09:09:15 PM »
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5000klms

Oil is cheap, engine rebuilds are not.

X2 oil and filter every 5k without fail. Fuel filter and air every 10k. Tranny full synthetic every 60k. Coolant every year and diffs every year. Over servicing never hurt anything.
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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2012, 09:29:57 PM »
100 series 4.5 petrol

Penrite 20w60 (used to be 20w50 but they call it a PLUS 10 now) every 5000Kms

Genuine Toyota filters every 5000Kms.

I run 2 air filters .1 for blacktop work and one for dirt roads, same toyota filter i just keep one clean and one for dirty work.

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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2012, 10:46:07 PM »
Sorry guys I don't have a picture for you of the inside of the filter taken after 5000k's with the magnets attached.
I cut the filter apart and found a browny/grey stain mark on the inside of the filter case where the magnets sat.
Found this picture on the net of the flow of oil through a filter.

Picture and quote taken from.
ALL ABOUT OIL FILTERS
 :cheers:
Below is a Ryco filter.  I use a Z334 on my 1HD-T.

Ryco FAQs[/color]]


I'm sure my old Holdens spat the oil OUT the hole that's at tehe centre of the filter...?


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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2012, 09:26:40 AM »
Rubia TIR 15/40 from total oils along with new filters @ 5000 k.
Been using it about 3 years now in my 1HDT-FE with no issues along with good pricing.
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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2012, 10:00:15 AM »
Cheapest name brand non recycled oil that meets the (insert manufacturer)  engineers specs.

Changed as per (insert manufacturer) engineers service schedule.

Nothing more - waste of money

Anything less - reliability issues

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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2012, 10:23:19 AM »
Cheapest name brand non recycled oil that meets the (insert manufacturer)  engineers specs.

Changed as per (insert manufacturer) engineers service schedule.

Nothing more - waste of money

Anything less - reliability issues

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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2012, 11:23:01 AM »
Cheapest name brand non recycled oil that meets the (insert manufacturer) engineers specs.
Nothing more - waste of money
Anything less - reliability issues

That may be the same oil (Kmart/Coles special) I used in my Toyota diesel
Would change it maybe a couple of times a year (max)
the Toyota did 600,000Km plus when I traded it ;D

was still getting good fuel economy, indicating motor still had good compression.

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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2012, 08:48:27 PM »
Rimula x, 5000k oil change.Motor not touched in 25yrs toyota 2H

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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2012, 12:36:37 AM »
The lad's a sparky and bought an import Hi-Ace 3L TD AWD a couple of years ago, the AWD to go surfing and get in and out of the new building sites. (As a tradey you want your tools close but if you've driven dowhill on a clay site and it starts to rain the 2WD boys are out in a flash moving their vans up to the road for the obvious) Anyway I was checking the Toyota Super Custom sites for info(Jap Owners Manual) and there was some interesting info re oil and oil filters, etc. Anyway the Sakura filter it came with was pooh poohed as not fine enough, along with a few other name barands surprisingly as owners had cut them open to check their construction vis a vis genuine Toyota. The OEM had a dual stage filter as has the Ryco z334 so after a couple of genuine Asia Toyota filters off ebay, Ryco it's been since and clearly the price and weight of the Ryco cf Sakura(and no doubt other cheapies on ebay) tells the story. So !0K intervals with any rated CW15 40 it is.

Bear in mind here many manufacturers are lazy and specify 5K/6months largely for Northern Hemisphere markets with snow and ice and if you're not careful and read your temp/viscosity chart you'll probably run too low viscosity. As well manufacturers are always trying to beat green regs and hence using thinner oils (engine drag) which then requires expensive additives to compensate for loss of base mineral oil lubrication and welcome to synthetics to make those green stars. Re intervals bear in mind my missus Mitsi Colt specifies 15k or 12months while her friend's Mazda 3  specifies 5k or 6 monthly. bWhile the missus drivesaround 15k/yr on 3.5L of oil in her shopping trolley, her girlfriend is miffed because she's luck to do 5k a year and those service reminders seem a bad joke. You're not seriously telling me Mazdas and Mitsis run differently on modern oil technology in Oz surely? Mind you that 1.5L CVT Colt is the most fuel efficient petrol motor for its capacity bar none that I can tell but back to diesels.

Diesel oils are all high detergent to keep the diesel carbon in suspension which is why it's black as soon as you put it in while my LPG Commode' 20W50 is still a nice straw colour at 10k. They both need replacing at the same time however, providing that diesel filter has had a very good secondary microfine filtration in it. Black diesel oil is fine as long as those particles are microfine and the oil hasn't run 10k in our mild climate and all those fancy low viscosity synthetics are a waste of dough unless absolutely specified. read your manula and temp/viscosity range and don't be suckered. You don't really think truckies change their oil every 10k do you? They are very particular about their pre-filters and filters though.
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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2012, 12:58:59 AM »
With apologies for the typos. I'm a pecker with big paws and the eyes aint what they used to be.. err.. well you know what I mean  :-[
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Re: What brand of diesel oil do u use and how often is it changed
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2012, 01:33:00 AM »
No doubt in future you'll be heeding Big Brother's digital nagging tailored specifically for you and your driving and there'll be no more discussion about such matters -
http://www.thedrivingmachine.com/mercedes-benz-flexible-service-system/
Either that or your bus cuts out , the doors lock, the lights start flashing and you're suddenly surrounded by environazis wanting your credit card  :police:

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