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Forum Etiquette
« on: May 23, 2012, 06:57:35 PM »
I am a member of several other forums, one of which has been recently torn apart via internal conflicts.
I have suggested there that a Forum Etiquette Sticky is required.

We have one here:

http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=2.0

Which is pretty basic.

I have suggested to the other forum that one like this may be more appropriate.  Note, it comes from
Mozilla, so mentions them.

What do others think, do we need something like this?

Ground Rules
There are a few ground rules for participation in forums hosted by mozilla.org. Please respect these rules, and each other.

Be civil.
No personal attacks. Do not feel compelled to defend your honor in public. Posts containing personal attacks may be removed from the news server.

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Most of these groups are high-traffic and read by busy people, so please pay attention to the topic of your messages, and check that it still relates to the charter of the forum to which you are posting. Off-topic discussion not taken to private email, mozilla.general, or any place where it is not considered off-topic, by someone who knows they should be taking it elsewhere, is eligible for removal from the news server.

Be kind to newcomers.
Newcomers may be annoying. They ask the wrong questions, including ones that seem obvious (or whose answers seem easy to find). But lots of valued contributors started out this way, and treating newcomers kindly makes them more likely to turn into the valuable community members we all know and love (and cut some slack when they mess up).

So while you don't have to humor them or suffer them gladly, and it's fine to point out when they make mistakes, point newcomers in the right direction in addition to turning them away from the wrong ones, and be kind to them in the process of correcting their transgressions.

Let sleeping dogs lie.
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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 07:02:50 PM »
Spot on
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2012, 07:28:39 PM »
Is this all because I said my farts smell in a thread last night Al? ;)

But seriously all forums need guidelines but who ever reads them?

I find most of that common courtesy and I like to see people act the same way in a forum as they would face to face..... Big ask at times I know!   
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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2012, 07:32:11 PM »
Fully agree but sometimes it's great to watch the banter in the electrical section.  ;D

I think being more polite to newbies, yes they may ask repetitive questions but letting them post their opinions keeps this forum going.

I remember when I first joined 600000 beers ago, I was not sure what to post and whether I would be shot down but the warm welcome was appreciated.

Let new members find there way and it is so easy being cynical typing on a keyboard but always think before posting. There are some great threads from some very clever and talented people on here.

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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2012, 07:35:06 PM »
There are some great threads from some very clever and talented people on here.

Where? :)
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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2012, 07:49:08 PM »
Where?

well I think many of your posts are indeed humorous  ;D ;D


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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2012, 07:59:13 PM »
But seriously all forums need guidelines but who ever reads them?

Exactly, that was a page long and had no camper or 4x4 pictures in it so i didn't read it. 

Better just to say if you would not say it to your grandmothers face don't type it.
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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2012, 08:04:47 PM »
"Better just to say if you would not say it to your grandmothers face don't type it."


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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2012, 08:09:15 PM »
I don't have any grandmothers *sob*

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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2012, 08:15:33 PM »
I don't have any grandmothers *sob*

Waaaaaaaahhh!!

Neither do I anymore :'(  but we all did once and chances are if they were still around, we would be polite to them.
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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2012, 08:26:53 PM »
Exactly, that was a page long and had no camper or 4x4 pictures in it so i didn't read it. 


Perhaps the half page edited version now in place may be more appropriate.

Yes, people mightnt have the inclination to read them, however, they are a reference point for moderators which could make their life easier, and act as a reference point for new members.
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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2012, 08:29:02 PM »
Be nice, or I'll rip ya bloody arms off.

The forum is a collective of folks who share an interest in camper trailers, camping, 4wding etc, but we're all individuals. As much as it's incumbent on everyone to be polite it also helps if folks don't arc up too much when another crosses the invisible line. We all have bad days (refer to my opening statement) from time to time. A gentle rebuke is fine, or an enquiry as to their well being.
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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2012, 08:33:57 PM »
however, they are a reference point for moderators which could make their life easier, and act as a reference point for new members.

I think that is the real worth Mace as the fact is less than 5% of people  would read these on any forum and rude people tend to be rude no matter where they are.  Having a guideline to point these people to with a behave or leave message is important.  My experience with forums (and I think at last count I am a member of over 20) tends to make me believe that nothing changes these people and they tend to end up being banned in the end anyway.   
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2012, 08:45:45 PM »
....did you say something?? :) :) :)
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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2012, 08:49:09 PM »
I think that is the real worth Mace as the fact is less than 5% of people  would read these on any forum

Agreed.  The Forum that Im in that had the problems is now sending both an Etiquette Guide and  a Copyright message with the introductory email to all new members as their login is confirmed.  They had an issue with members ripping of posted material for commercial gain. 

Those issues dont look likely here, but do happen.

Anyway, just a suggestion for an improved process, up to the mods to consider.  I thought if i posted it, at least they would get some feedback.

So, even if you think its a cr@p idea, post up.

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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2012, 10:17:24 PM »
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW,

C'mon fella's (and ladies), I love the leccie section.
Sure the banters good fun and everyone here has a sense of humour, but I  love reading some of the threads in the sparks section.

Gives me a laugh, and helps me remember that no matter how cranky my day has made me, someone else is crankier!!!!

Always remember that some people are only alive cos you reckon its not worth going to jail over!!!! >:D >:D >:D >:D

Oh and ettiquite..........I'm all for it, but I also love a bit of fun and a good ribbing every now and then, just gotta be able to take what you give. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2012, 12:28:55 AM »
Yawn. . . .
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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2012, 12:33:49 AM »
As much as people bag the electrical section it is still the busiest of the technical subforums, if you look at the number of questions asked it is pretty easy to see that a lot of people get value out of it.  Sure it gets heated at times but you can't say people are shying away from it.
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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2012, 01:36:52 AM »
Mace you have done the impossible  ;D you've started world peace, only 7 billion to go  :cup:

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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2012, 04:34:29 PM »
But seriously all forums need guidelines but who ever reads them?

Not me ... I notice and read the headings.  Common Sense ... hands up those that have it?  *Kit_e noted just over 8,000 hands*  Right.  So it's just the Electrical Section then.   ;D

I doubt you'd ever get disbandment of a camper trailer forum ... unless those disruptive ones from that other forum you mentioned find their way here ...  >:D

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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2012, 04:39:03 PM »

I doubt you'd ever get disbandment of a camper trailer forum ... unless those disruptive ones from that other forum you mentioned find their way here ...  >:D

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Oh, and in case someone asks, it nearly fell apart BEFORE i joined up!   :angel:

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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2012, 06:51:09 PM »
So it's just the Electrical Section then.   ;D


That's right.  Us with any electrical knowledge are shocking people.  We always provide Resistance, stay at Ohm and our partners think we are reVolting.

I was staring at a globe the other night and my wife asked "Watt are you doing", I replied " A little light reading...."

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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2012, 07:01:48 PM »
That's right.  Us with any electrical knowledge are shocking people.  We always provide Resistance, stay at Ohm and our partners think we are reVolting.

I was staring at a globe the other night and my wife asked "Watt are you doing", I replied " A little light reading...."

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LOL!  Reminds me of before we bought our solar panels.  We were in camp and out of the blue, he says "How much are those 120's?"  I replied "120 what?"  We both laughed at my reply.  We'd been thinking about 120 WATT solar panels.  LOL!

Just a little light humour for you.

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Re: Forum Etiquette
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2012, 07:20:01 PM »

Only me so far that I kno of!

Oh, and in case someone asks, it nearly fell apart BEFORE i joined up! 


how long did you get  ???

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