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MT on a CT?
« on: April 24, 2012, 12:20:44 PM »
OK, i may be missing something here, buy why have MT or even AT tyres on a CT?

Is it beneficial or purely cosmetic?

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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2012, 12:25:43 PM »
OK, i may be missing something here, buy why have MT or even AT tyres on a CT?

Is it beneficial or purely cosmetic?

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The only reason i can see to have same rims and tryes on the CT as the tow vehicle is it provides more spares if needed, other wise the CT tyres only followers and as they do not drive you could spend $460 a tyre For BFG All Terrains for the CT as opposed to $280 for a normal Highway trye.

Having said that I am just buying three BFG for the New Camper to match the tow vehicle

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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2012, 12:27:17 PM »
Their heavy(er) duty construction and extra tread depth makes them less susceptible to damage and punctures in out of the way places IMO.

Also, if you have matching rims, its good to have extra spares with the same tread pattern as your Tug.

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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2012, 12:45:49 PM »
Some good reasons from CRW and Mace however I only have light truck construction tyres. These are a different size to the tow vehicle. I looked at changing the CT wheels and tyres to suit the Prado but decided it was too hard and not really necessary for the travelling I do as I have a second spare for the Prado. And with a compressor and tyre plugging kit that should take care of most issues.
Just as well I didn't go to the expense of matching the Prado cause I might be selling it.

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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2012, 01:45:32 PM »
Been contemplating the same thing.
My CT, when I bought it 2nd hand, had tyres that were scrubbed out on the inside (illegal though passed roadworthy??????). I have been looking around for new ones that matched my tug but I have 265/75/16LT on the tug and 265/70/16 Passenger on the CT. If I put 75's on the CT the canvas doesn't go to the ground so I am stuck with 2 different sizes. The rims are the same though and at a pinch I could swap some around to get me out of trouble.
I'll probably scour the place looking for 2nd hand 3 x 70 series to go on the CT & hopefully they will be AT of some decent make. I just found a set to go on the tug recently at a good price (D694 Duellers).
Buying 8 new tyres (all current tyres are bald) was way out of my budget so 2nd hand will have to do at the moment.
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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2012, 01:55:49 PM »
LT's are usually a heavier construction.

HT pattern tyres usually have a 14-16mm tread depth.
AT & MT's are usually 18mm plus.

This can vary between brands.

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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2012, 02:43:57 PM »
Because it's gangsta.



Everyone knows REAL swaggers run muddies on their camper, to match the Maxtrax on their roofracks.

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I have mine matched to the car - both rims and tyres. It took JT a bunch of time to arrange, but I'm well thankful. Means I effectively have 4 spares in a worst-case scenario. Also, the ability to rotate them around between the car and camper should mean that I don't need to buy tyres for quite some time. Being good strong LT tyres, they can take a pounding over rocks, etc, and not be damaged at all - remember, your camper goes over the same terrain as the car.

Do you need to? Of course not. Run whatever tyres you like. I would imagine that the trailer's track width and tyre pressures are more important than type of tyre.

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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2012, 03:27:55 PM »
Ive got near new MT on mine.  ONLY because I had them laying around.  Selling them is pointless as people want 2nd has tyres for peanuts.

Easier to just use them up on the camper.

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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2012, 03:31:40 PM »
When your going down a steep slippery hill, and your camper brakes are locked up, I know which tread I preferr ,muddies will rip a path in the track looking for traction to help with the braking, smooth tyres will just slip and slide. More agressive the tread more chance of traction in an offroad envir.

But if you never go anywhere where this is likley then black and round will do..within reason. ;D ;D

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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2012, 04:28:15 PM »
I like matched tyres and instead of forking out for new tyres all round I rotate my used vehicle tyres on to the trailer and just buy new for the 'cruiser.

Strongest reason is the additional spares available to the vehicle, I reckon.
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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2012, 04:37:05 PM »
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Ive got near new MT on mine.  ONLY because I had them laying around.  Selling them is pointless as people want 2nd has tyres for peanuts.

On certain forums - yes you are right. They expect $2000 of value for $20.00+ free delivery.

But luckily I've never had problems sellin my Muddies and both parties have always been happy.  If you wnat top $ for em, go to Ebay! Saw some <50% 33inch muddies go for $900 few days ago - no rims!  :D ;D

If you sell em with 75+% you can get reasonable $ for em... :) also depends how much of a hurry your in :)

On my trailer, I started with MTR's as I had some layin round which were same and model as on car..

Now I'm running the same size, but different tyres to the car. 285's all round still.

Dick Cepek FCII's. Good strong carcass, without being muddies. They did slide around a fair wack in the high country few weeks ago according to the bloke behind me, and I was TL, so had the best conditions.
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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2012, 04:41:39 PM »
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When your going down a steep slippery hill, and your camper brakes are locked up, I know which tread I preferr ,muddies will rip a path in the track looking for traction to help with the braking, smooth tyres will just slip and slide. More agressive the tread more chance of traction in an offroad envir.

Are you sure about that? Once a tyre locks up, (of any tread) it clogs in that 1 section, like a dozer blade.. it may as well be bald - eg: clogged with mud - its mud on mud..

Muddies on ya car clean with the use of power... Tyres on trailers can't clean themselves like if your driving on it.  I maybe wrong, but thats my understanding of it.
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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2012, 04:43:18 PM »
I get the type/size spare thing but they're not a drive wheel so they aren't going to help with traction.
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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2012, 04:46:34 PM »
The only reason i can see to have same rims and tryes on the CT as the tow vehicle is it provides more spares if needed, other wise the CT tyres only followers and as they do not drive you could spend $460 a tyre For BFG All Terrains for the CT as opposed to $280 for a normal Highway trye.

Having said that I am just buying three BFG for the New Camper to match the tow vehicle

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Me 2 but mine are only $340  ;D you must have 17's on your CT as well Carl.

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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2012, 05:41:34 PM »
Are you sure about that? Once a tyre locks up, (of any tread) it clogs in that 1 section, like a dozer blade.. it may as well be bald - eg: clogged with mud - its mud on mud..

Muddies on ya car clean with the use of power... Tyres on trailers can't clean themselves like if your driving on it.  I maybe wrong, but thats my understanding of it.

You are correct mate , they will clog but a little on/off will rotate the tyre giving fresh tread to the track , obv only as much as a full rotation. this is from stoped point to lower the car/camper down a pinch. Only makes a difference with elec braks of course.

I have no real proof to back my statment up but I do belive stoping with muddies on trailer in slippery cond is better on agressive tread pattern.

It's not a reason to fork out big $$$ but it certainly plays a part in my decision making process.



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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2012, 05:47:14 PM »
It's not a reason to fork out big $$$ but it certainly plays a part in my decision making process.

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Bought mine based more on overall performance expectations and also breaking performance on and off road (BFG AT's may not be the best choice for mud or clay)


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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2012, 05:59:29 PM »
You are correct mate , they will clog but a little on/off will rotate the tyre giving fresh tread to the track , obv only as much as a full rotation. this is from stoped point to lower the car/camper down a pinch. Only makes a difference with elec braks of course.

I have no real proof to back my statment up but I do belive stoping with muddies on trailer in slippery cond is better on agressive tread pattern.

It's not a reason to fork out big $$$ but it certainly plays a part in my decision making process.



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I'm happy with that theory.

I've got BFG MT's on the tug and BFG AT's on the camper .... Stud pattern doesn't match, wheels dont match, tyre sizes don't match ... even the track isn't identical.

I'd be glad for that bit of grip any time you come into a downhill dirt corner a bit hot, and the trailer brakes have a chance of pulling it up before the trailer pushes the back of the car slideways around the corner. Wouldn't make a habit of it but it can happen and then you're glad for every bit of grip.

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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2012, 06:15:43 PM »
mine are matched with the hilux...stud pattern...rims and tires.....
It gives me the option of carrying two spares that i can use as i need them.....rather than carry 1 or 2 for the car and another 1 or 2 for the trailer...
PLUS... it looks the shiz


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Re: MT on a CT?
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2012, 06:25:36 PM »
I drove 300km on the Bins Track and the Sandover hwy yesterday the road was more like soup and I was so glad to have muddies on the camper with the presures down. In my opion in was a hug differance. Yes a trailer just follows your car but in the mud they tend to try and pass you. It's like the suspention you run, it comes down to personal preferance. But I really do think it's more than just extra spares and cosmetice.

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