Getting out of bogs

[Tjupurula]

Highlift jack can be rigged up to act as a tirfor too if no/busted winch

How is that done ?
Tjupurula

[Manjimike]

 Here you are -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSPbDwnUC-M
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[Dogsbreakfast]

How is that done ?
Tjupurula

Gday mate, hooking the winch up between the car and atree. Then the process of jacking it up moves the car. Sloooooowly, but it does work. Got bogged years ago up the cape and my winch decided to stop working so rigged up the high lift and moved it enough so that it wasnt resting on the undercarriage and drove out.

Took a while though, but better than being stuck.

[Tjupurula]

Thanks Manjimike
I will admit that I would never have even thought of that.
Regards
Tjupurula

[Manjimike]

I did it in Litchfield Np but only had 25mm rope no chain so the stretch didn't gain me anything at all  :'( :'(

 
Mike

[Kit_e_kat9]

Turfor?
Usually found in your favourite supermarket...turfor the price of one! 

Or...something like these

    

I have one of these. Made before they realise cars had electrical systems.  I don't have the wires anymore (I think), but I have the rest of it ....

Kit_e

[geordie4x4]

I have had both a high lift jack with chain and a (Big Haul) hand winch similar to the turfor.  Even when I was younger and a lot fitter,  these things were really hard work and painfully slow.   Elecric winch is now the way  go and a set of max traks.

 I have been bogged a lot of timesover the years and wittnessed some really crazy dangerous recoveies of vehicles. Saw a tow ball go flying hrough the trees, seen a hammer handle used to join two straps and it went all the way through te metal tailgate of a Hilux ute through some of the camping gear in the back (which probably saved the drivers life) and stopped cut into the back pannel of the drivers cab.

Best one was sitting on the beach with a beer and the mozzie net waiting for the tide go to out,  to recover a propperly bogged vehicle.  Was quite funny watching the little sharks fins swimming around the roof rack of some guys old troopie stuck in the mud south of Broome. Dragged it out and he actually got it going again the next day.

This is my Patrol about to pull an F250 out of the sand. Bloody great heavy thing it was too.

[geordie4x4]

And here is another good recovery.

The guy in the Disco went about 100m down the track only to find the river blocking it at the bottom and he could only get part of the way back up.

 It did not look that hard a track but proved to be a hell of a lot of work to recover.



It took about four winch extension straps and two different winches and two hours to get him back up.






Where did my winch go?

[LJs GU]

That person's 'adventurous' standing where he is...

[CRW]

That person's 'adventurous' standing where he is...

Absoutley dangerous place to stand should the cable snap

Cheers

Carl

[LJs GU]

One man's adventure, is another man's danger...

[Bird]

That person's 'adventurous' standing where he is...

Come on, theres only the inertia from 1 winch + 4 snatch straps + a few 100mtrs of hill + Pajero there.

wheres your testicles?

[Red Dog 4x4]

If you look at the photo he is controling the winch....

[Bird]

If you look at the photo he is controling the winch....

ahhhhhhhhhh didnt see that, the cable/straps will know not to cut him in 1/2 if they snap cause hes in control.

[Pipeliner]

Yes, the most important point I should have listed (I thought of it an hour later) was "LET A LOT OF AIR OUT OF THE TYRES!". 

And on the winching front, when I did a 4wd course back in 1983 the instructor took us to some sand dunes at the back of Port Adelaide and got us stuck on top of one with diagonally opposite wheels off the ground - having lockers is the only chance of driving out of that situation.  Then he got out a long coil of manila rope, banged a few star droppers in as an anchor, looped the rope between the anchor and the front recovery point, and then by using another star dropper as a lever in the middle of the rope loop we twisted the rope as tight as we possibly could - this ended up acting as a mini snatch due to the force it exerted on the front of the ute so when we tried to drive out it gave just enough pull to get back into a driveable situation.

Never used the method since, but never forgotten it either.  You could probably do something similar with a snatch strap if you were stuck out on your own.

[LJs GU]

ahhhhhhhhhh didnt see that, the cable/straps will know not to cut him in 1/2 if they snap cause hes in control.

 

[Tjupurula]

Hi Swaggers
I am learning some great methods of getting out of bogs, I have my main method, but have some great options from people's experiences.
Regards
Tjupurula

[jwb]

ahhhhhhhhhh didnt see that, the cable/straps will know not to cut him in 1/2 if they snap cause hes in control.

your funnay lost!

cheers

[Draggin]

Ok, once used just a snatch strap and 6 blokes doing the "tug-of -war" style pull to recover a Pootrol stuck in the softest stuff on earth.

It was about 1985 during a club "Safari" style rally so there were lots of witnesses (gawkers) and volunteers. We had tried to winch the stuck vehicle but it started to pull the winch vehicle into the bog. We then chained a second vehicle behind the winch vehicle to act as an anchor and also doubled the pull with a snatch block - still pulled both winch vehicles towards the stuck one.

Access was really bad as it was a single track with no side access. I knew the snatch strap was just a big rubber band so I suggested a few blokes have a go (with me) at pulling the thing out. Well you can imagine the laughter and ribbing that I copped - you know " Ah, c'mon (w)anchor, that'll never work - two big 4b's can't do it, no way you can" I replied, great I have my first volunteer, 4 or 5 more and we can have a go, my shout at the pub if it doesn't work.

Anyway to cut a long story short - we did move it enough for it to gain traction and get out itself.

I didn't have to buy the beers..........but they did go down very well, funny how the laughter stopped too.

There is always a way.

[Blinky Bill]

Here you are -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSPbDwnUC-M#

 

That's a great video. Thanks for posting.

Cheers - Wayne

[geordie4x4]

That person's 'adventurous' standing where he is...

Yes, agree with that.
Note where I am taking the photo from.  He could sand further out of the way even with the controller in his hand. This was with winch extension straps Not Snatch straps, there was steel cable on this winch and I have Plasma rope on mine wich is way up the top of the hill.  The vehicle at the top is also connected to a tree.
 
I have seen a winch cable snap and it did not recoil nearly as violently as a stretchy snatch strap can, but I still would not want to be in the way or cop a shackle.  At least if all other bystanders are out of the way it puts fewer people at risk.
 
But how far is enough when you see in the video the force of that bumperbar torn off with a snatch strap. It flew what 15 or 20 meters? and Would have killed anyone in the way.
Gives me a new respect for clearing the area properly.

[SteveandViv]

Hi Duggie
Out here during the wet we all keep our hubs locked in, and normally drive in high 4, but even in low 4, people frequently get bogged.  It is just how it happens, no matter what sometimes.  I have walked through a local creek to check, and walked all around in the water, thought it was okay, and two days later dug the car out.
Regards
Tjupurula

Isn't that the truth. The Black Mud is aw-sum - not....:-)

Actually. On a serious note I'm looking to get out there to put some antennas up in Mulun and Billi. We are hoping to drive two new ambulances out there.

How's the tracks at the moment. Any chance to drive out at the moment?

[Tjupurula]

Hi Steveand Viv
We have had our new ambulance delivered, and I have not seen you guys around, so I am hoping to catch up with you when you come here again.  Do not try to come through the back road from Billiluna, it is almost nothing but water and mud at the moment, we have recovered four vehicles from bogs in the last week, that is enough.
Regards
Tjupurula

[SteveandViv]

Hi Steveand Viv
We have had our new ambulance delivered, and I have not seen you guys around, so I am hoping to catch up with you when you come here again.  Do not try to come through the back road from Billiluna, it is almost nothing but water and mud at the moment, we have recovered four vehicles from bogs in the last week, that is enough.
Regards
Tjupurula

Cheers. There is another Ambo coming your way, two actually I think. I need to get out to Ringer Soak as well. Do you know if the rivers are passable ? I suspect with the latest rain I may be in for a wait or fly to do the radio work I need to do. Also we are looking to revisit re the new clinics so I should be out in the next few weeks. Will let you know

[Tjupurula]

Hi again Steve
The Duncan is currently closed to all traffic, hence noone is going out to Ringers Soak, but that could change next week.  The road just east of Old Halls Creek has gone absolutely shocking, and the first 45 Km's after you leave Halls Creek are disgusting.  Flora Valley Station are flying everything in at the moment, mand we have just flown all our fresh fruit and vegetables in, and we are starting to run out of some other stock, but the roads are quickly drying.
Be extremely careful if you drive in, there are some terrible washouts in the hills between Halls Creek and Ruby Plains Station, at the bottom of the creeks especially.
Look forward to seeing you again when you get here.  Hopefully you got my email about possibly bringing a decent Router in for me, and emailing me the cost as well as some banking details so I can send you the funds.
Regards
Tjupurula