Author Topic: Best way to join snatch straps !! (Read 23820 times)

McGirr · « **on:** February 25, 2012, 06:11:53 PM »

With the up coming Cape trip we may have to join snatch straps together depending on the crossing.

What have people used that works and makes un joining the straps easy.

Mark

XJeepers · « **Reply #1 on:** February 25, 2012, 06:22:51 PM »

Newspaper, magazine, bog roll, jumper or other article of clothing.

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jaycamrie · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2012, 06:25:28 PM »

How to join recovery straps
www.tektrek.com.au/.../4WD%20RECOVERY_...

Chippy76 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2012, 06:27:22 PM »

Best way is with a rolled up newspaper ... cheap, and disposable when it is buggered ... easy to get them apart ...

Cheers Chippy

Ropes · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2012, 06:30:50 PM »

The best way IMHO is not too!

If, as a very last resort and I mean after winching has failed as an option, you have too, then some sort of rolled up reading material might enable you to unjoin them afterwards.

Chippy76 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2012, 06:43:25 PM »

There is no reason why NOT to join snatch straps. Sometimes it isnt always possible to back up close enough to attach a single strap.

For safety reasons I must add ***NEVER EVER USE SHACKLES TO JOIN SNATCH STRAPS.***

As most of you know, in the event of a possible failure of one strap, the shackle may become a high speed missile.
[End of safety warning ]

Cheers Chippy

Barrabart · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2012, 06:52:16 PM »

Quote from: Chippy76 on February 25, 2012, 06:43:25 PM

***NEVER EVER USE SHACKLES TO JOIN SNATCH STRAPS.***

Cheers Chippy

Worth repeating i reckon!!

D4D · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2012, 06:52:41 PM »

I keep some bits of dowel in my recovery kit. I've seen newspapers bind up.

UTE 701 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2012, 06:55:31 PM »

Try this link

http://www.tektrek.com.au/images/4WD%20RECOVERY_How%20to%20join%20recovery%20straps.pdf

outback jack · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2012, 07:00:17 PM »

Quote from: UTE 701 on February 25, 2012, 06:55:31 PM

Try this link

http://www.tektrek.com.au/images/4WD%20RECOVERY_How%20to%20join%20recovery%20straps.pdf

good post ute701, the towel is a good idea

SUPA105 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2012, 07:17:32 PM »

I like the rolled up rubber car mat......

Cheers

Symon · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2012, 07:33:41 PM »

I managed to get 30' of this stuff - http://www.nobles.com.au/products.aspx?doc_id=1807, and the way you splice it is here - http://www.nobles.com.au/media/11946/supermax_4wd_splicing_instructions.pdf

What I'm keen to try at Nolans this year (if we need to) is to use this connected to a single snatch strap. If it gets bound up I think it would be pretty easy to undo the splice and get it free again.

GGV8Cruza · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2012, 08:04:15 PM »

Newspaper, magazines or a short piece of timber at last resort. We have had four joined together once before, a 1 hour drive turned into a 4 hour recovery

GG

Maîneÿ . . . · « **Reply #13 on:** February 26, 2012, 08:54:48 AM »

When I bought my 'black snake' I was told not to join 2 x snatch straps together, but use a synthetic (tow) rope to extend the distance between the 2 x vehicles.
So now I've 20m of synthetic tow rope for extending the distance of the 2 x vehicles in cases where one is stuck in sand etc and a long way from any form solid ground for the tow vehicle to get close to it and to only use rated shackles attached at each vehicle.

D4D · « **Reply #14 on:** February 26, 2012, 08:56:31 AM »

Wow Mainey, you didn't post a pic of your 'black snake'. Are you feeling ok?

Maîneÿ . . . · « **Reply #15 on:** February 26, 2012, 09:17:00 AM »

Quote from: D4D on February 26, 2012, 08:56:31 AM

Wow Mainey, you didn't post a pic of your 'black snake'.
Are you feeling ok?

Yes, for a Sunday morning feeling terrific
But if you want a photo I can do it for you

the black headed snake 'security guard' at the tyre shop in Surfers

Bennlexx · « **Reply #16 on:** February 26, 2012, 01:23:34 PM »

x2 for a piece of dowel

simo h · « **Reply #17 on:** February 26, 2012, 01:34:02 PM »

I use a pease of PVC pipe it's lite but strong just feed the straps together to make a reef knot and use the PVC pipe to stop them binding up

Chippy76 · « **Reply #18 on:** February 26, 2012, 02:39:08 PM »

Quote from: Maîneÿ . . . on February 26, 2012, 08:54:48 AM

When I bought my 'black snake' I was told not to join 2 x snatch straps together, but use a synthetic (tow) rope to extend the distance between the 2 x vehicles.

What was the reasoning for that Mainey ? I would suggest NOT using a "tow" rope to extend the distance, or a tree protector, or winch ext strap , as they are NOT rated to take the load placed on a snatch strap during a snatch recovery. Yes they are rated highly, but the sudden jolt from a snatch recovery could potentially overload the strap at the WORST possible moment ... , at full load!

So yes I would be comfortable joining 2 cables with newspaper, magazine, rubber mat, etc. All would be considered safe options in my books.

Cheers Chippy

RWS · « **Reply #19 on:** February 26, 2012, 03:23:39 PM »

Just Straps sell these...joining strap

Maîneÿ . . . · « **Reply #20 on:** February 26, 2012, 04:16:38 PM »

Quote from: Chippy76 on February 26, 2012, 02:39:08 PM

What was the reasoning for that Mainey ?

I was told, rightly or wrongly, to get the extra distance away from the bogged vehicle in sand etc, which could realistically be at least 30mt, to use a rated tow rope, as it will have a lower stretch ability and will allow the snatch strap to do its job without hindrance to it's ability to stretch when the load is applied to it by the snatching vehicle.

Two connected snatch straps will only give about 16 Mts distance between the 2 x vehicles and who carries 2 x snatch straps anyway

Jason B · « **Reply #21 on:** February 26, 2012, 04:27:13 PM »

Quote from: Chippy76 on February 26, 2012, 02:39:08 PM

What was the reasoning for that Mainey ? I would suggest NOT using a "tow" rope to extend the distance, or a tree protector, or winch ext strap , as they are NOT rated to take the load placed on a snatch strap during a snatch recovery. Yes they are rated highly, but the sudden jolt from a snatch recovery could potentially overload the strap at the WORST possible moment ... , at full load!

So yes I would be comfortable joining 2 cables with newspaper, magazine, rubber mat, etc. All would be considered safe options in my books.

Cheers Chippy

I agree with Chippy as I have done this. Used a snatch strap and a winch extention strap joined together recoverying my mates badly bogged F250 with my Landcruiser. We had broken a number of old straps and were down to these and had not many other options. We broke the extention straps on every 4th or 5th snatch.

I wouldnt recommend it unless you had no other options

Regards

Jas

Mace · « **Reply #22 on:** February 26, 2012, 04:45:10 PM »

Having been lucky enough to have been given a Black Snake! - it does state on the attached note that no attachment should have a rated capacity less than the breaking strain of the snake - 8,000 kg.

As others have said, appears that joining should be done when no other option.

Mace

Hairs · « **Reply #23 on:** February 26, 2012, 04:56:36 PM »

What Ute posted.

driftenaway · « **Reply #24 on:** February 26, 2012, 05:12:49 PM »

I have recently been working in china while there i seen the workers unloading a shipping container with a folk lift pulling a machine out with snatch straps the join in the middle was a G clamp a large G clamp but a G clamp machine would have been close to 1 ton and the straps were well worn but as in china it worked. I do not recommend this for use in Australia.

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Author Topic: Best way to join snatch straps !! (Read 23820 times)