Anti-Imports? - Trackabout?

[Nick74]

Maybe Chinese campers and the GFC were partly to blame.

But you need to read Rae's post in the other thread as it mentions a third contributing factor.

And that would be the ATO - I don't want to see this turn into a public servant bashing episode but Rae mentioned that the ATO were chasing a tax debt. This was brought on through business practice, GFC and other less publicised issues you would assume.

I know from experience that the ATO are waaaaaaay more sensitive to major business tax debt since the GFC. Especially if they think that they can recover the debt from the sale of the business. And from a business perspective Trackabout would be a very salable asset.

Now as much as I'd like to say blame Julia G lady the crazy ranga ho bag - that's probably not correct. But add JT's health to the above factors and it was probably easier from the families perspective to not have the fight as the real cost of that fight, ie JT's health and the families stability, was too much to pay.

My 2c

Cheers
Nick

[Paul (SA)]

I have a dream.....

A dream that all camper trailers should be free, free to live in harmony. Chinese, Australian, South African and dare I say Kiwi. Hard floor, soft floor, those weird looking pod ones and pseudo caravans. Come on, put your awnings around each other and join couplings and sing in the ways of our forefathers when out in the Australian country.

Free at last, free at last. Thank God almighty we are free at last.

Now where did I leave my beer?

[Mace]

I have a dream.....

A dream that all camper trailers should be free, free to live in harmony. Chinese, Australian, South African and dare I say Kiwi. Hard floor, soft floor, those weird looking pod ones and pseudo caravans. Come on, put your awnings around each other and join couplings and sing in the ways of our forefathers when out in the Australian country.

Free at last, free at last. Thank God almighty we are free at last.

Now where did I leave my beer?

[Jason B]

I have a dream.....

A dream that all camper trailers should be free, free to live in harmony. Chinese, Australian, South African and dare I say Kiwi. Hard floor, soft floor, those weird looking pod ones and pseudo caravans. Come on, put your awnings around each other and join couplings and sing in the ways of our forefathers when out in the Australian country.

Free at last, free at last. Thank God almighty we are free at last.

Now where did I leave my beer?

X 2 

[Barrabart]

I have a dream.....

A dream that all camper trailers should be free, free to live in harmony. Chinese, Australian, South African and dare I say Kiwi. Hard floor, soft floor, those weird looking pod ones and pseudo caravans. Come on, put your awnings around each other and join couplings and sing in the ways of our forefathers when out in the Australian country.

Free at last, free at last. Thank God almighty we are free at last.

Now where did I leave my beer?

Hahaha................ farkin perfect!!!!

[dirtpilot]

Should we blame all the tightarses that build their own campers as well?

[POD]

 those weird looking pod ones

WTF YOU TALKIN' ABOUT MOFO? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

[bobnrob]

I have a dream.....

A dream that all camper trailers should be free, free to live in harmony. Chinese, Australian, South African and dare I say Kiwi. Hard floor, soft floor, those weird looking pod ones and pseudo caravans. Come on, put your awnings around each other and join couplings and sing in the ways of our forefathers when out in the Australian country.

Free at last, free at last. Thank God almighty we are free at last.

Now where did I leave my beer?

Ummmm, sounds like a different nation sang like that!

[Camel Tow]

At the end of the day...as long as the buyer is buying from a company that will be around to provide customer service is the main thing.

You can buy Chinese campers from reputable companies and you can also buy them from a 'fly by night' backyard provider off eBay.

If buying Chinese...make sure the company has been around for a while and is reputable.

Cheers

[Campa]

Maybe Chinese campers and the GFC were partly to blame.

But you need to read Rae's post in the other thread as it mentions a third contributing factor.

And that would be the ATO - I don't want to see this turn into a public servant bashing episode but Rae mentioned that the ATO were chasing a tax debt. This was brought on through business practice, GFC and other less publicised issues you would assume.

I know from experience that the ATO are waaaaaaay more sensitive to major business tax debt since the GFC. Especially if they think that they can recover the debt from the sale of the business. And from a business perspective Trackabout would be a very salable asset.

Now as much as I'd like to say blame Julia G lady the crazy ranga ho bag - that's probably not correct. But add JT's health to the above factors and it was probably easier from the families perspective to not have the fight as the real cost of that fight, ie JT's health and the families stability, was too much to pay.

My 2c

Cheers
Nick

Yep. Where I work went through administration last year. The business owed over 1.3 million dollars in taxes. We are lucky that the business was able to pay its way out but we had to go into a Deed of agreement contract with a payment plan to the ATO.
They were ruthless (I would too if I was owed over 1 million) however it wasn't because of  the GFC or imports it was because of greedy directors thinking they could make the ATO wait for the taxes to be paid as in years gone past.

As you could imagine it was embarrassing for the directors as every meeting with the ATO and the administrator included all creditors and employees as a public forum were every detail was discussed about both the company accounts and the accounts of the directors, as to why the debt had not been paid as they had more than enough money to pay the debt.
There has now been extreme changes to the way they do things.

 

[areyonga]

I bought an Xtrail trailer after a long search as it suited my budget and it was made of Aus steel and completely fabricated in Melbourne where I could watch it being made.  The tent is chinese and is great quality but in buying that I feel it is only a small part of the furchase and if I needed to could change it at any time, but dont need to.

I am interested in what signifies chinese built and Australian made as there is a percentage of both is most campertrailers.

In my opinion there are too many campertailer manufacturers in Australia as seen by my search when buying mine so the market has to give at some time especially in these poor economic times.

Trevor

[Matto]

Now the frightening thing is that because of these comments that are being posted I have been reading on one forum in particular that a person which has a Chinese tent on a Aussie trailer is a tad worried about being ridiculed when camping...

That's just sad, if it's actually true. Come on people - does it really matter that much?

Sure, I like to buy Aus as much as the next person, and I like to support Aus businesses. I like to support local businesses - I'd rather buy a camper from QLD than from NSW, and I'd rather buy one in Cairns than from Brisbane. Doesn't mean I am ready to start lynching Brisbane folk (New South Welshmen are fair game though).

Can we not have our own values and live our lives aligned to them, whilst at the same time accepting other people's values and decisions in their lives? Just because someone makes a different choice doesn't make them wrong - it makes them human. It'd be bloody boring if everyone was the same as me (I am, you see, an incredibly boring person). I don't need to justify my decisions, my values, or my life to anyone else, nor do I expect them to need to justify theirs to me.

If you go and buy a Jayco, I might feel sorry for you in your deluded state, but I'll be happy for you if you're happy.

Paul has hit it on the head - let's all have a drink (iced tea for those who choose that), chill out and enjoy what brings us together, rather than what makes us separate.

Cheers,
Philosopher Matto

[areyonga]

I have a dream.....

A dream that all camper trailers should be free, free to live in harmony. Chinese, Australian, South African and dare I say Kiwi. Hard floor, soft floor, those weird looking pod ones and pseudo caravans. Come on, put your awnings around each other and join couplings and sing in the ways of our forefathers when out in the Australian country.

Free at last, free at last. Thank God almighty we are free at last.

Now where did I leave my beer?

"GROUP HUG BY ALL CAMPERTRAILERS"
Forget the owners, they are tied up in politics

[Bird]

Now the frightening thing is that because of these comments that are being posted I have been reading on one forum in particular that a person which has a Chinese tent on a Aussie trailer is a tad worried about being ridiculed when camping...

Anybody that believes that would happen or even considers taking it serious should be sterilized.

[gibbo301]

I have a dream.....

A dream that all camper trailers should be free, free to live in harmony. Chinese, Australian, South African and dare I say Kiwi. Hard floor, soft floor, those weird looking pod ones and pseudo caravans. Come on, put your awnings around each other and join couplings and sing in the ways of our forefathers when out in the Australian country.

Free at last, free at last. Thank God almighty we are free at last.

Now where did I leave my beer?

This is the only good post I've read on this topic    Come on people buy what ever you want to buy you don't have to keep up with the Jones if your happy with what you got who cares 

[stepheng]

Anybody that believes that would happen or even considers taking it serious should be sterilized.

It does happen, not that I would actually care. I know I get trailer envy when at places and admire the rigs and sometimes people get a bit snooty about the whole thing, "oh u only have a blah blah...they are mainly tossers though and wouldnt talk to them again.

I wasnt going to say anything as I do feel for Johnny but as others have mentioned we do now live in a global economy and this is good and bad. Good as people are getting things cheaper and a lot more opportunities overseas for aust companies etc but bad as australian manufacturing in particularly cannot compete with overseas companies particuarly on price...there will be more of it to come in the future unfortunantly.

I try to buy aussie made and I even avoid large supermarkets as I prefer to shop local but there are a lot of times, when you just cant justify spending the extra $ based upon a philosophical position, particularly when you got bills, mortgagte and mouths to feed.

There is no right or wrong in it and people will generally (overall) go for the best price. Historically people may have avoided Chinese (as we are using them as an example) as the products were considered as a lower quality but that is not now the case. As nearly everything is built in China, they are now focusing on low cost but of higher quality..car manufacturers have been playing this game for a very long time....you get in with low price and the quality is the same, over time you can then maintain low price but make better quality... Toyota, Honda, Hyundai etc...Australia needs to learn from this.

[Mace]

....you get in with low price and the quality is the same, over time you can then maintain low price but make better quality... Toyota, Honda, Hyundai etc...Australia needs to learn from this.

Spot on - remember these?  My father had a  go faster red one new in 1966.

Who woulda thought then that theyd make a V8 Supercar?

[kiwipete]

I have a dream.....

A dream that all camper trailers should be free, free to live in harmony. Chinese, Australian, South African and dare I say Kiwi. Hard floor, soft floor, those weird looking pod ones and pseudo caravans. Come on, put your awnings around each other and join couplings and sing in the ways of our forefathers when out in the Australian country.

Free at last, free at last. Thank God almighty we are free at last.

Now where did I leave my beer?

x2 

[bully60]

I may be showing my age here but wasnt the same arguments happening with products from Taiwan in the 70's !!!!

BTW I would take a import car over a Aussie made Holden, Ford, Mitsubutsi etc anyday

[brickiematt]

I have a dream.....

A dream that all camper trailers should be free, free to live in harmony. Chinese, Australian, South African and dare I say Kiwi. Hard floor, soft floor, those weird looking pod ones and pseudo caravans. Come on, put your awnings around each other and join couplings and sing in the ways of our forefathers when out in the Australian country.

Free at last, free at last. Thank God almighty we are free at last.

Now where did I leave my beer?

Bloody oath. I have an Aussie made trailer made right here in Melbourne, with an imported tent. That doesn't bother me, if it bothers someone else then so be it. We all have views and opinions and are all entitled to them.

Sometimes with discussions like this one tho, it can be easy to lose sight of why we are all here in the first place.....

So let's just raise our VB's or Tsingtao's, whatever your taste may be, and toast the fact that we all just love getting out there and exploring this beautiful country, whatever you may use to do it. 

[3.8v6lover]

Wake up to myself? Thats a bit harsh is'nt it? At the moment all i can afford is a chinese import, im sorry about that. . . . . .

[danbo81]

Wake up to myself? Thats a bit harsh is'nt it? At the moment all i can afford is a chinese import, im sorry about that. . . . . .

x2 on that

[XJeepers]

BTW I hope all you people that have not yet purchased your Camper trailer or all those that have a Chinese Camper wake up to yourselves save a little more,  Buy Aussie CT's and believe us you will not regret it...     

You should consider rephrasing "believe us" to " believe me". Doesn't seem to me that everyone on MySwag agrees as your comment suggests....

I own a full import.....  If people don't like it then they can stick it in their pipe and wake up to themselves.

I would rant on about being new to the forum and if this is common place then delete my account, but clearly (hopefully) this is not the case.


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[inahole]

Jayco are made in Mexico Victoria

Brian

now here is a company with chinese build quality.

[NewcastleKnight]

now here is a company with chinese build quality.

Really, thanks for your input.  You are kicking goals with your posts.  Wish there was an eye rolling emoticon... Keep digging.